Will Catholics start leaving the GOP which is now anti Catholic?

[Kingofalldems]

GOP and leadership is clearly anti-Catholic.

Link to tweet

[OC375]

1. People love hating Catholics

[Rebl2]

7. Husband

had someone he worked with in the past that said Catholicism was a cult. He was of course was an evangelical magat.

[mountain grammy]

14. my evangelical sister in law believe Mormans are a cult

but she went ahead and voted for Romney anyway because "Obama isn't a Christian"

[angrychair]

9. All due respect

This guy is an idiot and his reasons for hating Catholics is more about evangelicals teaching that it's a cult.

I ripe on Catholics, especially as a survivor of SA, that they spent decades and decades hiding the SA of children by priests and some layman as a church policy and still try to this day by fighting mandatory reporting laws.

[SocialDemocrat61]

13. I can't blame you for criticizing the catholic church and clergy

What they did is inexcusable.

However, ordinary catholics were not responsible. Plus there are a lot of good democrats who are catholic such as Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and AOC.

[OC375]

23. Kennedy Democrat

That use to be a thing.

[OC375]

22. I survived Catholic schools

As they say... I may be crazy, but I didn't drive myself here.

[peggysue2]

28. Hating on Catholics is an American tradition

Goes way back.

Idolatry, the Pope, the original Latin Mass, Saints, all of it. Can't tell you how many times I heard this hate growing up as a Catholic kid.

I have plenty of problems with The Church but I despise this bigotry of Catholics or any other faith.

But from other so-called Christians? It's absolutely obscene.

And no, America is NOT a Christian nation.

[OC375]

39. You are making me think of the movie "Gangs of New York"

Bigotry had a large role in the movie, from a great many angles and perspectives.

One of the main disputes in the movie was too many Catholics coming to New York and competing for resources. The "Nativist" party descriptions of Catholic immigrants are nearly identical to what is said today in the immigration space. Humans have short memories when they want to, and every few generations we like to reaffirm it.

FWIW - I think our country is starting to resemble 1970's and 1980's Belfast. Still, even my Hibernian brothers and sisters mostly got their acts together. Now it's a tax haven for American businesses. The world is a funny place.

[Wednesdays]

2. Just like old times

"'Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion' was an 1884 U.S. presidential campaign phrase that severely damaged Republican candidate James G. Blaine, contributing to his loss to Democrat Grover Cleveland. Uttered by Rev. Samuel D. Burchard, it attacked the Democratic Party as being allied with drinking (rum), Catholicism (Romanism), and Southern rebellion."

[Srkdqltr]

3. Ban Christmas and Easter too. They started with Catholics.

[niyad]

11. They actually started as Pagan holy days, Yule and Oestara. The churches

appropriated them.

[Srkdqltr]

20. whatever massive eye roll

[niyad]

24. Accuracy matters.

[DBoon]

27. I thought Christmas was a repacking of Roman Saturnalia

The early christians did not like the debauchery associated with Saturnalia, so they made it a solemn holy day.

[niyad]

34. And Saturnalia was lifted from Yule.

[muriel_volestrangler]

45. That's ridiculous

The Romans knew very little about the Germans, and what they did think about them was mostly contempt. There's no evidence they "lifted" anything from Germanic peoples. Romans were quite capable of inventing their own religious beliefs.

[OC375]

40. Ancient Aliens

It's all a racket! We've been Rick Rolled!

[muriel_volestrangler]

47. Accurately, Easter comes from the Jewish Passover.

You're confusing the English word with the Christian festival. Tell someone Italian that Easter comes from an unknown Germanic festival, and they'll look at you like you're loony.

[Torchlight]

31. Another creative reductio ad absurdum

Imagine it looks great on a t-shirt!

[3_Limes]

4. But then there are the Opus Dei catholics who will gladly leave the church to follow MAGA.

So it may be a wash.

[DBoon]

6. I call them Francisco Franco Catholics

[2na fisherman]

16. Leonard Leo Sleazebag

He was called this by Trump after he apparently became too disloyal to him. He is the Federalist Society/Opus Dei operative who helped stack the Supreme Court in Trump's favor. But now it seems as though Leo is leaving MAGA to follow Opus Dei and make more money handling dark money for other Christo fascist goals anticipating the demise of Trump and arranging for different leaders to further institutionalize the Christian agenda of Project 2025.

[Blue Full Moon]

5. They were following the priest.

That Pope Francis ex communicated, Maria Vigano.

[RainCaster]

8. Not a chance

They are caught up in the notion that TSF will bring about "the end times". Netenyahu is now spewing that shit as well. This is a cult and they will follow him into hell both literally and figuratively.

[LeftInTX]

35. Catholics aren't into that. They are anti-abortion!

However, many are supportive of immigrants.

If ICE forces immigrants to have abortions, then you will have it!

[debm55]

43. As a Catholic, no Catholic follows the "end times" nonsense.

[Nigrum Cattus]

10. There are 45,000 "christian" denominations worldwide

They can't agree on most anything.
That's because it's all made up fairy tales !
https://christianeducatorsacademy.com/how-many-christian-denominations-are-in-the-us-you-wont-believe-the-answer/

[Mblaze]

12. And yet he tattooed his body

With a Catholic crusader meme. Deus Vult

[King_Klonopin]

15. Another evangelical who is illiterate regarding the Constitution of the United Sates

I am a proud Catholic.
The republican/conservative movement has NEVER swayed me.
I have always seen them for what they are.
I have always held them in contempt as being just like the Pharisees whom Jesus detested and railed against.
So many are self-righteous, holier-than-thou, hypocritical, blind guides who are all bluster and pretense.
Their purpose is veiled but it cannot be hidden -- judgment, power, control, division, dominance...
never truth, humility, compassion, mercy, grace, or love which are the things most preached about by Jesus.

"You will know them by their fruits." -- Matthew 7:16

"They bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves will not move them with their finger.
They do all their deeds to be seen by men.
BUT woe to you, scribes and Pharisees (and republicans), hypocrites!
They love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues.
Because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither enter yourselves,
nor allow those who would enter to go in. 
You traverse sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte,
you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves. 
Blind guides
You tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law,
justice and mercy and faith
Blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel! 
You cleanse the outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of extortion and rapacity. 
You are like white-washed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within they are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness. So you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but within you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
You are sons of those who murdered the prophets."
(excerpts from Matthew 23:4-31)

[Boomerproud]

25. My current parish is very conservative with a hard-right pastor.

I'm trying to find a liberal parish but it's becoming more difficult. Pope Leo better watch his back because there are Cardinals who are undermining him just like Francis.

[keep_left]

44. Pope Leo is also being undermined at every turn by the radtrad media machine...

...that has been constructed by these maniacs (EWTN, Relevant Radio, Ave Maria Radio/Ave Maria anything, as well as numerous regional and local media groups--e.g. St Michael Broadcasting in MN). EWTN's "news" show, The World Over, is often even worse than Fox News when it comes to issues of fairness, accuracy, and guest balance. Raymond Arroyo, anchorman for The World Over, apparently has a Rolodex a mile wide and an inch deep when it comes to his favored guests. The show often features the same three radtrad "experts", day after life-sucking day.

Every retrograde Church official, no matter how marginal, always gets the red-carpet treatment at EWTN. And the perpetually smug Raymond Arroyo can always be counted on to give them an obsequious, fawning interview lacking even a scintilla of critical journalistic competence.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218176316#post3
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220873174#post5

[maxrandb]

17. No Silly! You don't understand the state of our media

The ONLY stories that are acceptable to "highlight" are ones where a certain demographic, or group is "leaving the Democratic Party".

Front page news in this Orwellian shitshow are ONLY;

"Are Jews Leaving the Democrat (sic) Party?"

"Have Dems lost young black and Hispanic males?"

"Soccer Mom's leaving the Democrat(sic) Party"

"How Dems lost white women"

If the story is unfavorable to Retrumplicans, it must be phrased as:

"Polls show Democrats still unpopular with Catholic Voters, even though Retrumplican rhetoric can be "perceived" by some as anti-catholic."

[ck4829]

21. Good summary

[betsuni]

33. Sometimes I see so many stories about everyone breaking up with Democrats that I imagine the party

weeping into a tub of ice cream while binge watching rom-coms all alone on Saturday night (the cat ran away and became an Independent).

And just what's so terrible about the Democratic Party? These stories are usually vague or misinformed grievances, sources probably the author's cat.

[ck4829]

18. K&R

[pwb]

19. Church in the military for me

was a way to get out of training for an hour

Evangelicals don't know about Jesus, he is in the second half of the Bible and finishing a book is hard for them.

They hate the Catholic Church because they concentrate on the New Testament and Jesus Teachings.

Jesus is woke to these evangelical freaks.

[Bettie]

26. Most of the Catholics that I know are

Democrats.

The ones that are Republicans are not nice people. At. All. They gravitate to the Republicans, not because of religion, but because of their hatred and fear of those who don't think like them.

The one thing all Republicans have in common is that they hate something much more than they love anything.

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

29. Division.

[wishstar]

30. JD Vance is Catholic, baptized in 2019 and Marco Rubio, Sean Duffy are Catholic

plus all the conservative Supreme Court Justices were raised Catholic.

[blm]

32. They are Opus Dei Catholics, not Pope Leo Catholics.

Huge difference.

[Kingofalldems]

38. If the nationalists take over, there will be no Supreme Court.

[Norrrm]

36. According to Franklin (and Billy) Graham, Catholics are not Christians either

Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Mormons are not Christians

According to them, Catholics are not Christians either.

https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/

"We need something like what Jerry Falwell did in the 1980s. We need a “moral majority”-made up of Christians, Jews, Mormons, Catholics and many others of faith-to come together to take a stand for our religious freedoms and rights."
https://web.archive.org/web/20150222160421/https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/

[Kingofalldems]

37. That is true.

[JI7]

41. If they vote Republican they themselves most likely hate some other groups also

so unlikely they will leave.

[maxsolomon]

42. LOL, right.

99.9% of Repuke Catholics (like my Westside Cincy relatives) will never hear what this Fundy clown thinks about them.

Conservative Fundies have always whinged about the RCC but THEY ARE CRAZIER BY FAR. As crazy, or MORE crazy, than the Momos.

They're all cults - all Monotheisms.

[B.See]

46. "...the GOP which is NOW anti Catholic?"

I think (in practice at least) the GOP has long been anti-Catholic, ever since their ideological kinsmen/Klansmen donned robes and pointy hoods to terrorize Catholics (and Jews) back around the 1920's (if not before).

They're just less inclined to disguise the sentiment these days.