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usonian

(24,870 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 08:47 PM 22 hrs ago

Take Kharg? Tricky.

https://www.gzeromedia.com/by-ian-bremmer/after-decapitation-whats-next

I have no reading on gzeromedia.

After decapitation, what’s next?

Bold text is mine.

Seizing and holding Kharg could give Trump leverage over whatever regime emerges in Tehran without boots on the ground in Iranian cities, without a years-long occupation, and without a Delcy he won’t be able to find. You don't need to control the government if you control its main revenue source. Sanctions have tried and failed to choke off this cash flow for decades: the US tightens enforcement, then relaxes it to stabilize oil markets and lower prices, and Iran finds workarounds to adapt. Kharg would offer something sanctions never could: direct, physical control over the point where Iranian crude reaches the world. The US could let whatever government exists in Tehran run the country while it keeps the oil flowing and decides how the proceeds get spent. China, which buys roughly 80% of Iran’s crude exports, would prefer that to a protracted war that disrupts supply and pushes Brent above $100. So would the American public. All in all, a pretty attractive option for a president who desperately needs gas prices low ahead of the midterms and can’t afford to let anything derail his summit with Xi Jinping in April.

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The entire strategy, however, rests on the assumption that the Iranians would rather accept American control over Kharg than destroy the terminal themselves. The logic is that Iran needs that revenue to survive, so it won't blow up its own export capacity. That assumption may prove mistaken.

Iran's leadership has just watched its Supreme Leader assassinated and dozens of senior officials killed. The scope and intensity of its response – over 500 ballistic missiles and 1,000 drones in the first 48 hours, striking civilian targets across the Gulf in countries that weren't even belligerents, hitting a US embassy, killing American soldiers – has exceeded US expectations. This is a regime that sees compromising core principles – its missile deterrent, its right to enrich, resistance to American coercion – as more dangerous to its long-term survival than short-term devastation. The Islamic Republic has endured brutal sanctions, eight years of total war with Iraq, and decades of economic isolation. Further deprivation is seen as survivable. What is not is capitulation to Washington, which would delegitimize the entire revolutionary project.

If the choice is between letting America coerce it indefinitely or destroying the terminal and denying Trump his leverage, which do you think this regime would choose? The Iranians lose control over the revenue either way. Blowing up Kharg themselves before American boots hit the island would send oil to $120 and impose massive costs on the US, Gulf allies, and global markets, signaling that their pain tolerance is higher than Washington’s without sacrificing the regime’s ideological foundation. That's not necessarily an irrational choice from Tehran's perspective
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hookaleft

(1,087 posts)
1. I have been reading and watching
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 08:53 PM
21 hrs ago

videos about Kharg Island today. It is truly a game changer. Iran could be brought to it's knees

dalton99a

(93,819 posts)
3. Iranians have suffered oppression and deprivation for decades. They know they will outlast Trump.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 09:13 PM
21 hrs ago

roamer65

(37,902 posts)
4. If we mess with Kharg, Ras Tanura and Abquiq in the KSA becomes Iran's main targets.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 09:14 PM
21 hrs ago

Taking Saudi Arabia fully offline gets us to $200.

vanessa_ca

(883 posts)
8. +1 Iran's military will target US-linked oil infrastructure if own facilities hit
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:12 PM
19 hrs ago
1h ago (01:40 GMT)

Spokesperson says Iran’s military will target US-linked oil infrastructure if own facilities hit

The spokesperson for the Central Headquarters of Khatam al-Anbiya has shared a statement appearing to respond to Trump’s claims about a US attack on Kharg Island.

The spokesperson, according to Iranian media reports, said that if Iran’s oil infrastructure is attacked, “all the oil and energy infrastructure belonging to oil companies across the region that have American shares or cooperate with the United States will be destroyed and turned into a pile of ashes”.

https://aje.news/j4onxu?update=4397136


20m ago (02:50 GMT)
Thick smoke seen rising from Kharg Island but Iran’s military remains intact: Report

Iran’s Fars news agency is reporting that thick smoke has been seen rising from Iran’s Kharg Island, but that Iranian forces continue to operate from there despite Trump’s claims the US “obliterated” military targets on the island.

“The reactivation of defenses on the island within an hour after that round of attacks on Kharg invalidated (Trump’s) claim,” Fars reports.

Fars also reported that more than 15 explosions were heard on the island during the attacks, citing sources in the field.

The sources said that no oil infrastructure was damaged in the attacks.

https://aje.news/j4onxu?update=4397223

gab13by13

(32,052 posts)
5. Iran giving Kharg to us is laughable.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 10:10 PM
20 hrs ago

If Krasnov fucks with that port Iran will fight like a cornered rat. Economies worldwide will be affected, including ours. Iran would sooner blow up Kharg than let the US take it.

Turbineguy

(39,994 posts)
6. Didn't Iran let loose human wave attacks with children in the Iran-Iraq war?
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:01 PM
19 hrs ago

The mullahs are willing to sacrifice lots of people and they have lots of them.

usonian

(24,870 posts)
9. Well, a lot of videos are clickbait. It's CRUSHINGLY, ASTOUNDINGLY easy to tell.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:14 PM
19 hrs ago

I formatted a transcript of a Marc Romano 30 minute video and found one sentence worth of content.

Like I said, the site in the OP is unknown to me, but the arguments looked worth a read.

I can skim text, but not videos.

Almost all videos work with these steps:

1. Get the video URL and paste it into:

https://www.tubetranscript.com/en

2. Copy the text. It looks nice but go to copy and paste and it's a blob, so

3. Paste the text into:

https://sentencesplitter.com/

That's less than perfect, but readable. Copy the text.
NOW, IT WILL EXPORT A NICE DOC FILE,
but there's no way to share a doc file, or even a pdf on DU,
And sites that let you do that are a flakey pain in the ass to use.

4. Get your text from the above, copy and paste into

https://pastebin.com
PASTEBIN will REFUSE to post some stuff (keywords?) so use rentry.co instead.

Get a "New Paste" if it lets you and click on "raw". That usually is the most readable.

Get the URL from the URL bar and share it here.

EASY!! EASY!!!
I actually found a shortcut way on the iphone that's easier, but phones are a PITA to use with DU (posting)

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