General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTake Kharg? Tricky.
https://www.gzeromedia.com/by-ian-bremmer/after-decapitation-whats-nextI have no reading on gzeromedia.
After decapitation, whats next?
Bold text is mine.
Snip
The entire strategy, however, rests on the assumption that the Iranians would rather accept American control over Kharg than destroy the terminal themselves. The logic is that Iran needs that revenue to survive, so it won't blow up its own export capacity. That assumption may prove mistaken.
Iran's leadership has just watched its Supreme Leader assassinated and dozens of senior officials killed. The scope and intensity of its response over 500 ballistic missiles and 1,000 drones in the first 48 hours, striking civilian targets across the Gulf in countries that weren't even belligerents, hitting a US embassy, killing American soldiers has exceeded US expectations. This is a regime that sees compromising core principles its missile deterrent, its right to enrich, resistance to American coercion as more dangerous to its long-term survival than short-term devastation. The Islamic Republic has endured brutal sanctions, eight years of total war with Iraq, and decades of economic isolation. Further deprivation is seen as survivable. What is not is capitulation to Washington, which would delegitimize the entire revolutionary project.
If the choice is between letting America coerce it indefinitely or destroying the terminal and denying Trump his leverage, which do you think this regime would choose? The Iranians lose control over the revenue either way. Blowing up Kharg themselves before American boots hit the island would send oil to $120 and impose massive costs on the US, Gulf allies, and global markets, signaling that their pain tolerance is higher than Washingtons without sacrificing the regimes ideological foundation. That's not necessarily an irrational choice from Tehran's perspective
hookaleft
(1,087 posts)videos about Kharg Island today. It is truly a game changer. Iran could be brought to it's knees
WarGamer
(18,552 posts)dalton99a
(93,819 posts)roamer65
(37,902 posts)Taking Saudi Arabia fully offline gets us to $200.
vanessa_ca
(883 posts)Spokesperson says Irans military will target US-linked oil infrastructure if own facilities hit
The spokesperson for the Central Headquarters of Khatam al-Anbiya has shared a statement appearing to respond to Trumps claims about a US attack on Kharg Island.
The spokesperson, according to Iranian media reports, said that if Irans oil infrastructure is attacked, all the oil and energy infrastructure belonging to oil companies across the region that have American shares or cooperate with the United States will be destroyed and turned into a pile of ashes.
https://aje.news/j4onxu?update=4397136
Thick smoke seen rising from Kharg Island but Irans military remains intact: Report
Irans Fars news agency is reporting that thick smoke has been seen rising from Irans Kharg Island, but that Iranian forces continue to operate from there despite Trumps claims the US obliterated military targets on the island.
The reactivation of defenses on the island within an hour after that round of attacks on Kharg invalidated (Trumps) claim, Fars reports.
Fars also reported that more than 15 explosions were heard on the island during the attacks, citing sources in the field.
The sources said that no oil infrastructure was damaged in the attacks.
https://aje.news/j4onxu?update=4397223
gab13by13
(32,052 posts)If Krasnov fucks with that port Iran will fight like a cornered rat. Economies worldwide will be affected, including ours. Iran would sooner blow up Kharg than let the US take it.
Turbineguy
(39,994 posts)The mullahs are willing to sacrifice lots of people and they have lots of them.
orangecrush
(30,025 posts)"Preposterous"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221095747
usonian
(24,870 posts)I formatted a transcript of a Marc Romano 30 minute video and found one sentence worth of content.
Like I said, the site in the OP is unknown to me, but the arguments looked worth a read.
I can skim text, but not videos.
Almost all videos work with these steps:
1. Get the video URL and paste it into:
https://www.tubetranscript.com/en
2. Copy the text. It looks nice but go to copy and paste and it's a blob, so
3. Paste the text into:
https://sentencesplitter.com/
That's less than perfect, but readable. Copy the text.
NOW, IT WILL EXPORT A NICE DOC FILE,
but there's no way to share a doc file, or even a pdf on DU,
And sites that let you do that are a flakey pain in the ass to use.
4. Get your text from the above, copy and paste into
https://pastebin.com
PASTEBIN will REFUSE to post some stuff (keywords?) so use rentry.co instead.
Get a "New Paste" if it lets you and click on "raw". That usually is the most readable.
Get the URL from the URL bar and share it here.
EASY!! EASY!!!
I actually found a shortcut way on the iphone that's easier, but phones are a PITA to use with DU (posting)