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RandySF

(83,551 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 09:06 PM 21 hrs ago

It's all about to get worse,

Israel is planning to significantly expand its ground operation in Lebanon, aiming to seize the entire area south of the Litani River and dismantle Hezbollah's military infrastructure, Israeli and U.S. officials say.

Why it matters: This could be the largest Israeli ground invasion of its northern neighbor since 2006, dragging Lebanon to the epicenter of the escalating war with Iran.

"We are going to do what we did in Gaza," a senior Israeli official said, referring to the flattening of buildings Israel says Hezbollah uses to store weapons and launch attacks.

The big picture: An operation of this size and scale could lead to a prolonged Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon.


https://www.axios.com/2026/03/14/israel-lebanon-ground-invasion-hezbollah

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It's all about to get worse, (Original Post) RandySF 21 hrs ago OP
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a 21 hrs ago #1
This thought was self-deleted by the author. Dan 21 hrs ago #2
Like our own personal felon WmChris 20 hrs ago #3
Will they flatten it to the ground like they did Gaza... ananda 20 hrs ago #4
Where does Israel get its weapons? Intractable 20 hrs ago #5
How can we not be MOSTLY responsible? Ferrets are Cool 19 hrs ago #10
Greater Isreal. 1WorldHope 20 hrs ago #6
Extremism RandySF 20 hrs ago #7
As I've thought for years. If anyone should know better, it's Israel. paleotn 19 hrs ago #14
Maybe humans are bound to repeat mistakes. 1WorldHope 19 hrs ago #16
Certainly seems to be. paleotn 19 hrs ago #18
Errr...........correction Mossfern 18 hrs ago #24
Who is worse? I say the former but a close tie vapor2 18 hrs ago #28
Thank you for your correction. I understand entirely and agree. 1WorldHope 18 hrs ago #30
Winning hearts and minds? hibbing 20 hrs ago #8
I'm sure Ivanka's husband will fix this right away. SunSeeker 20 hrs ago #9
Tiffany's father-in-law gets to run this one. Tanuki 18 hrs ago #23
Ah yes, the truck salesman. We're in good hands. SunSeeker 18 hrs ago #26
Is this a surprise to anyone? Bettie 19 hrs ago #11
Don't forget Syria. Already took a chunk last year. AloeVera 18 hrs ago #21
And they will take more Bettie 10 hrs ago #32
... orangecrush 19 hrs ago #12
Oh, hell. Israel wants the water from the Litani river. This is partly a resource grab. They've wanted highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #13
In a sandbox, it's all about water. paleotn 19 hrs ago #15
True. But I hadn't seen Israel's wanting Lebanon's water mentioned recently. Seeing the river's name highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #19
Probably about more than just water angrychair 18 hrs ago #29
They have no more right to do this, Bayard 17 hrs ago #31
970 pounds of Iranian uranium unaccounted for, you say? Orrex 19 hrs ago #17
Bibi just loves the smell of genocide in the morning Scalded Nun 19 hrs ago #20
Well, why stop there? Wednesdays 18 hrs ago #22
Bibi can probably TAKE it, but then will come the task of KEEPING it. Buns_of_Fire 18 hrs ago #25
They are already losing one war angrychair 18 hrs ago #27
Netanyahu thinks he can Bettie 9 hrs ago #33

Response to RandySF (Original post)

ananda

(34,983 posts)
4. Will they flatten it to the ground like they did Gaza...
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 10:17 PM
20 hrs ago

and then leave it to Trump and Jared to "rebuild"?

Intractable

(1,960 posts)
5. Where does Israel get its weapons?
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 10:23 PM
20 hrs ago

From google ...

Israel primarily sources its weapons from the United States, which provides roughly 69% of its major conventional arms imports, followed by Germany (about 30%) and Italy. These imports include advanced aircraft, precision-guided munitions, and missile defense systems. While relying on imports, Israel also maintains a robust domestic defense industry.

I think that makes us partially responsible for the destruction in the Middle East.

1WorldHope

(2,025 posts)
6. Greater Isreal.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 10:26 PM
20 hrs ago

I am very pro Jew. I've never been able to digest the Holocaust fully. How could people be so sick and cruel. And, like every other nation some narcissist becomes leader and takes good people to a place they never dreamed of going. Bibi is the Jewish people's Trump. I hope there are second chances. Mostly for the planet itself and animals, plants and trees. If humans never evolved again, I'd call that a win.

paleotn

(22,112 posts)
14. As I've thought for years. If anyone should know better, it's Israel.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:05 PM
19 hrs ago

Yet as the years roll on, they seem bound and determined to inflict the same atrocities they suffered. Inching ever closer. Yes, they have a right to defend themselves but this ain't defending.

1WorldHope

(2,025 posts)
16. Maybe humans are bound to repeat mistakes.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:13 PM
19 hrs ago

Children who grow up being abused, often abuse children themselves. Women marry men just like their fucked up father's and boys are looking for someone just like dear ol' mom. That's pretty general with no numbers to back it up. But maybe more like a belief I seem to have decided was mostly true.

Mossfern

(4,700 posts)
24. Errr...........correction
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:04 AM
18 hrs ago

Netanyahu is the Israeli people's Trump.

And yes, it is very important to make that distinction.

Tanuki

(16,424 posts)
23. Tiffany's father-in-law gets to run this one.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:02 AM
18 hrs ago

"On the American side, the file is being managed by Trump adviser Massad Boulos, who is also the U.S. envoy for Africa.
Boulos, who is Tiffany Trump's father-in-law, has been in contact with Israeli, Lebanese and Arab officials in recent days to facilitate direct talks between Israel and Lebanon."

Bettie

(19,604 posts)
11. Is this a surprise to anyone?
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 10:59 PM
19 hrs ago

Seriously? The Israeli right wants more territory.

They declared war on Iran and then began bombing Lebanon, because their goal is "Greater Israel", so they want Lebanon.

After that, they'll need to find a pretext to take Jordan or the chunk of Egypt they want.

AloeVera

(4,202 posts)
21. Don't forget Syria. Already took a chunk last year.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:55 PM
18 hrs ago

I've been gobsmacked for 2+ years that people didn't SEE Gaza was just the start. The blueprint.

And everything else was just deceit.

Bettie

(19,604 posts)
32. And they will take more
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 07:54 AM
10 hrs ago

from various countries. All of Jordan is included and though Jordan is an US ally, who fucking knows what the current administration would do or say should Netanyahu set his sights on them. (ETA: It isn't IF, it is WHEN he sets his sights on them)

People don't see because they choose not to, because any criticism whatsoever of anyone in Israel is "antisemitism".

I don't care if someone's Jewish (or Catholic, Muslim, etc.)...I do care if they are a murderous warmonger and there have been historically and still are a lot of that type in religion since the beginning of humanity, because religion is usually an excuse to kill the people who are in their way or perceived to be.

And still, people think Netanyahu is just 'defending his country'. Yeah, whatever.

highplainsdem

(61,661 posts)
13. Oh, hell. Israel wants the water from the Litani river. This is partly a resource grab. They've wanted
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:03 PM
19 hrs ago

that river's water for decades. And this war is giving them an excuse to grab it.

From the Christian Science Monitor in 1982:

https://www.csmonitor.com/1982/0120/012034.html

However, the Golan Heights are even more important in the context of Israel's future water policy as a steppingstone - quite literally - to the liberation or occupation of the southeastern corner of the Lebanon and physical control of the Litani. While estimates of the available flow from the Litani differ considerably, Israeli sources argue that a minimum of 400 million cubic meters yearly could be diverted into Israel - or as much as 700 million if the Lebanese dam upstream could be destroyed or its spillways opened.

The Litani River has long been a target (since the early Zionist settlements in Palestine under the British mandate) but that target - essentially academic until recently - now adds an ever increasing urgency to the older designs upon the Litani waters.

Plans for acquiring the Litani were articulated soon after Israel came into being in 1948, and the recently published diaries of Moshe Sharret, reveal such Cabinet-level discussions in the mid-1950s. At a more mundane level, restaurant place mats in the Tel Aviv Sheraton Hotel show the historical boundaries of Israel spanning the area of today's Lebanon well north of the Litani. Historical claims thus correlate closely with economic exigency, and Israeli publications refer tellingly to the ''wasted'' resources of the Litani juxtaposed to Israel's needs.

The waters of the Litani River promise an increase of between 25 and 45 percent in water availability, all the more alluring now that the sewage reclamation projects, the last options for indigenous water, are being completed. Diversion of the Litani into Israel is physically easy, a simpler undertaking than the National Water Carrier, and the engineering studies are reportedly complete.

highplainsdem

(61,661 posts)
19. True. But I hadn't seen Israel's wanting Lebanon's water mentioned recently. Seeing the river's name
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:21 PM
19 hrs ago

triggered some memories of what I'd heard about decades ago.

angrychair

(12,195 posts)
29. Probably about more than just water
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:46 AM
18 hrs ago

IDF soldiers have been seen wearing a patch on their shoulder called the "greater Israel" patch which shows nation of Israel over much of that area of the ME, including historic Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, portions of Syria and Iraq, Egypt's Sinai and northern Saudi Arabia, with the words written next to the map saying "Promised Land of Israel" in Hebrew.

While the IDF has stated this is not an official part of the uniform it is a growing topic of conversation among ultra-nationalists and comments by Netanyahu last year did nothing to slow it down:

In August 2025, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu voiced strong support for a 'Greater Israel' vision in an interview, amid ongoing Gaza conflict. Settler leader Daniella Weiss publicly affirmed biblical borders spanning Nile to Euphrates in 2024.


When people in Arab countries, their literal neighbors, see or even just think they are wearing patches that show this "Greater Israel" being acted on in real life by literally trying to seize a piece of the land on that image, it's hard to ignore and I just don't think it's going to go well at all

Reference: https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/greater-israel-patch-middle-east-tensions-1783265

Bayard

(29,436 posts)
31. They have no more right to do this,
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 01:34 AM
17 hrs ago

Than Putin has of trying to retake the old USSR countries.

Bibi, Putin, and trump. They all need to go.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,116 posts)
25. Bibi can probably TAKE it, but then will come the task of KEEPING it.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:25 AM
18 hrs ago

For that, you know he'll turn to his favorite sugar daddy. And should Daddy Americabucks balk, a subtle hint of maybe aligning Israel closer with Russia will take care of it, no problem. He knows his audience.

angrychair

(12,195 posts)
27. They are already losing one war
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:28 AM
18 hrs ago

And they are now starting another?!?

Seriously, what the fuck is going on?!?

Bettie

(19,604 posts)
33. Netanyahu thinks he can
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 09:00 AM
9 hrs ago

Get all of “greater Israel” and the orange idiot will encourage it.

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