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aggiesal

(10,754 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 05:12 PM 11 hrs ago

I don't know if anyone reported, but it's an important news. It's about The Washington Post ...

The Washington Post Is Using Reader Data to Set Subscription Prices. How Does That Work?
Some subscribers recently received a heads-up that they're on the hook for a new rate "set by an algorithm using your personal data." We asked a UVA expert what that might mean.

Many Washington Post readers have been notified via email that their subscription rates are set to increase. Nestled at the bottom of these emails, you’ll find an asterisk and the following: “This price was set by an algorithm using your personal data.”



We will start seeing this throughout everything we buy.
Welcome to the world of Ai.
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I don't know if anyone reported, but it's an important news. It's about The Washington Post ... (Original Post) aggiesal 11 hrs ago OP
As soon as people start comparing their prices with others C_U_L8R 10 hrs ago #1
I'm surprised JBTaurus83 10 hrs ago #2
Exactly. paleotn 8 hrs ago #14
This is also happening with Uber. They charge you more if they see you have a low battery on your phone Pisces 10 hrs ago #3
Off the subject, but how does Uber know how much charge your phone has? LAS14 10 hrs ago #5
If I'm not mistaken, that is part of the data accessible by most websites, Qutzupalotl 10 hrs ago #7
I don't believe you are correct on this. Please research and cite a good resource. erronis 8 hrs ago #15
HTML5 has a battery status API Qutzupalotl 8 hrs ago #16
Thanks! It's hard to stay up on all the HTML changes. erronis 8 hrs ago #19
Since your battery is low, they think you're more desperate. ... aggiesal 10 hrs ago #8
That's called Techflation. Look it up. n/t aggiesal 10 hrs ago #6
+1 dalton99a 8 hrs ago #11
On anything I buy, if I don't think I got the best deal, or one equivalent to all others offered bucolic_frolic 10 hrs ago #4
Same here SheltieLover 9 hrs ago #9
My payment is the same, zero. dem4decades 9 hrs ago #10
I had been a reader for years - both print and online. Now also $0. erronis 8 hrs ago #13
I unsubscribed from the WaPo a couple of years ago but still play their online crosswords sinkingfeeling 8 hrs ago #12
How do they know you aren't carrying a portable recharger in your purse/pocket? MLWR 8 hrs ago #17
After decades of subscribing, I cut the Wash Post when they wouldn't endorse Harris. TBF 8 hrs ago #18
I'm unsubscribed- and I feel really sad about it. yardwork 7 hrs ago #20

C_U_L8R

(49,305 posts)
1. As soon as people start comparing their prices with others
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 05:15 PM
10 hrs ago

Bezos will see a lot more un-subscribes. What a dumb move.

Pisces

(6,215 posts)
3. This is also happening with Uber. They charge you more if they see you have a low battery on your phone
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 05:18 PM
10 hrs ago

because they think you are feeling more desperate. This is worse than dynamic pricing. It is AI pricing by how much they think you will pay for a service. Totally unethical and insane!!!

LAS14

(15,503 posts)
5. Off the subject, but how does Uber know how much charge your phone has?
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 05:24 PM
10 hrs ago

And why would a low battery correlate with charging higher fares?

Qutzupalotl

(15,800 posts)
7. If I'm not mistaken, that is part of the data accessible by most websites,
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 05:32 PM
10 hrs ago

including IP address of course, but also make/model of device, approximate location, OS version, and (I believe) battery level.

erronis

(23,638 posts)
15. I don't believe you are correct on this. Please research and cite a good resource.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 07:35 PM
8 hrs ago

In any case, the response header data is up to the client browser to transmit and can be changed (in many cases) by the user.

This just doesn't smell right since much browsing is done away from mobile phones.

erronis

(23,638 posts)
19. Thanks! It's hard to stay up on all the HTML changes.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 08:11 PM
8 hrs ago

Especially those that the APIs allow. I'll see if Firefox (my browser preference) allows me to block these items.

Edited to say:
I guess this isn't a "new" HTML change since the Guardian article was published in 2015 and the HTML5 was implemented by major browsers in 2008-2009. Ooof - I'm getting old!

aggiesal

(10,754 posts)
8. Since your battery is low, they think you're more desperate. ...
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 05:34 PM
10 hrs ago

It's something like you're on vacation and you get a flat tire.
Since you need a new tire, suddenly that tire goes from $150 to $250.

If you're using the Uber app, they can read your battery level.
I'm sure they don't tell you that, when you download their app.

dalton99a

(93,836 posts)
11. +1
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 07:17 PM
8 hrs ago
https://www.vice.com/en/article/uber-surge-pricing-phone-battery/

Uber Accused of Charging People More If Their Phone Battery Is Low
By VICE Staff
April 11, 2023, 12:06pm

The small study by the Belgian newspaper Dernière Heure looked at how the app changes its pricing for users in Brussels based on their battery.

The paper reported that 2 identical requests were made to go from and to the same location yet Uber charged 6 percent more for the journey that was made on a smartphone with only 12 percent battery remaining. The phone with 84 percent battery was charged €16.60 (£14.56, $18.10) for the journey from the newspaper’s offices to a nearby ferry terminal while the other phone was charged €17.56 (£15.41, $19.16).

“Uber does not take into account the phone’s battery level to calculate the price of a trip,” the company said in a statement to Dernière Heure. “The dynamic pricing applied to trips booked via Uber is determined by the existing demand for rides and the supply of drivers who can respond to it.”

This is not the first time the ride app has been accused of taking advantage of its users’ battery life. In 2016, Uber’s former head of economic research, Keith Chen, said in an interview with NPR that the company had found that people with lower battery levels were more willing to pay for surge pricing. Chen denied the company was specifically raising prices on these users, but some commentators voiced scepticism about why the company was monitoring battery life at all.

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bucolic_frolic

(54,876 posts)
4. On anything I buy, if I don't think I got the best deal, or one equivalent to all others offered
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 05:22 PM
10 hrs ago

I walk away.

Spend nothing. Give them nothing. Even in supermarkets I'm constantly substituting brands, items, stockpiling sales. You give them as little as possible. You do without, you do it yourself, you learn a skill, you ask a friend. That's a message management needs to hear.

erronis

(23,638 posts)
13. I had been a reader for years - both print and online. Now also $0.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 07:29 PM
8 hrs ago

Same with the NYT.

sinkingfeeling

(57,730 posts)
12. I unsubscribed from the WaPo a couple of years ago but still play their online crosswords
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 07:28 PM
8 hrs ago

every day. They have offered me a yearly subscription for $24.

TBF

(36,453 posts)
18. After decades of subscribing, I cut the Wash Post when they wouldn't endorse Harris.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 08:07 PM
8 hrs ago

F*ck them.

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