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Astonishingly, President Trump and his aides were caught unprepared when Iran, under air assault from the United States and Israel, retaliated by targeting shipping in the Persian Gulf region and specifically through the Strait of Hormuz. Military planners have pointed out for decades that the waterwaythrough which one-fifth of the worlds oil and liquefied natural gas passesis highly vulnerable to Iranian assault. But the Trump administration acknowledged in classified briefings, CNN reported last night, that it did not make provisions for a closure because officials assumed that such a move would hurt Iran more than the United States.
In its failure to anticipate Irans reaction, the administration ignored a dynamic that former Defense Secretary James Mattis, a first-term Trump appointee, was fond of pointing out: Once hostilities begin, the enemy gets a vote. U.S. leaders have drastically underestimated the Iranian regimes ability to survive, adjust, and strike back. Just two weeks into a war that began at a time of the presidents choosing, the U.S. appears uncertain about what to do next.
The campaign that Trump launched in conjunction with Israel has so far depended on superior air power and detailed intelligence about which targets to hit. But Iran has multiple ways to imperil vessels in the Strait of Hormuz. The country is a major producer of cheap aerial droneswhich Russia has used to deadly effect against Ukraine over the past four years. Iran also seems to be using sea drones and, according to some reports, may be laying mines in the strait. Many of the systems used to deploy such weaponry are small and easily transportable, so tracking them down is not easy. Doing so requires constant air patrols, and even with those, some Iranian equipment will slip through.
Deploying U.S. naval vessels to accompany ships from the Persian Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz could help protect the flow of oil and other vital raw materials, but it would also leave the escorting vessels themselves vulnerable. The Trump administrationfor good reasonseems terrified of that option. Itll happen relatively soon, but it cant happen now, Energy Secretary Chris Wright told CNBC yesterday. Were simply not ready. Some military experts have suggested that the only way the United States can reopen trade through the vital strait is to send ground forces into Irana step that, opinion polls suggest, would be highly unpopular with the American public.
MAGA is winning this war the same way they were winning the war on COVID in 2020, in their own delusional minds. Sick of winning yet? Dunning-Kruger effect. Bigly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect
Squaredeal
(720 posts)Time to replace our current Commander-in-Chief before he loses the war.
UpInArms
(54,842 posts)Has he even looked at a color coded map?
Iran is on THREE sides of the strait
IronLionZion
(51,141 posts)you nerd
EdmondDantes_
(1,700 posts)Just like with the hurricane, he magically redrew Iran's borders. Unfortunately nobody bothered to alert the Iranians.
Goonch
(4,840 posts)
jmowreader
(53,119 posts)There are 23 recognizable-as-what-they-are Diet Coke logos, but he removed the word "Heinz" - leaving the Keystone logo and Heinz' unique bottle shape - from the ketchup bottles.
Given that, it is pretty funny.
wnylib
(25,762 posts)jmowreader
(53,119 posts)bucolic_frolic
(54,876 posts)Superpower vs. drones is not playing well in Ukraine either
tanyev
(49,147 posts)Idiots.
ProfessorGAC
(76,545 posts)Since these "advisors" are American, you'd think they'd know that Japan's calculation was wrong and that an unprovoked attack is likely to create a determined resolve.
But, no. Nobody in there who can think beyond the next Truth Social brag.
wnylib
(25,762 posts)and win so they feel invincible and keep going until someone fights back hard enough to surprise them out of their arrogant assumptions of omnipotence.
If the situation were not so seriously dangerous for the world and the US, I would enjoy seeing the bully get his comeuppance.
vapor2
(4,388 posts)IronLionZion
(51,141 posts)anyone who disagrees with MAGA gets fired. Hiring/promoting only loyalists gets these types of problems.
Mysterian
(6,390 posts)The Iran debacle and the harm to our country will be severe.
paleotn
(22,125 posts)Another Jackalope
(190 posts)The depth of that intensity changed Iran's calculus of the acceptable cost for continuing to strike.
That willful blindness was a catastrophic failure.
NoMoreRepugs
(12,000 posts)jmowreader
(53,119 posts)It assumes Trump is just clueless, ignorant, or whatever other term you want to use to describe someone who's so stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.
No sir. Trump's handlers knew EXACTLY what would happen when he did this: the Iranians would close the mouth of the Persian Gulf, and the only way Trump could "rescue" Americans from having unleaded regular cost more than avgas is to allow Russian oil to be sold in the United States.
This is what I think happened.
1. Russia is allies with Iran, but Russian dictator Vladimir Putin finally had enough of Iranian dictator Ali Khamenei's shit.
2. Putin would send his own people down there to throw Khamenei out of a 40th-floor window, but the Russian 13th "Alexander Bortnikov" Guards Defenestration Brigade is currently stuck in Ukraine.
3. Putin's solution is to give Donald Trump Khamenei's location and order him to kill Khamenei. Trump does as directed.
4. Iran issues a two-pronged response. First, they install a new dictator Trump and Putin will hate even worse than the one they murdered. Then they close the Strait of Hormuz, which has two effects: it starves the other Gulf States because they can neither import food nor export oil, and it sends the price of gasoline everywhere else through the roof.
5. Trump lifts sanctions against Russian oil, which does two things for him: it makes his controller in Moscow very happy, and it allows him to erase something else President Biden did without looking like the evil fuck he is.
Another Jackalope
(190 posts)I think you give the man too much credit. His actions are motivated by emotion, not thoughtful deliberation.
jmowreader
(53,119 posts)Trump is a marionette with high maintenance costs - fast food isn't cheap anymore. Other people decide what he's gonna do, and he always obeys. A couple days ago there was a post on this fine message board that said Trump fell asleep in the planning meeting for this attack.
Another Jackalope
(190 posts)He saw the chain of events very clearly, ordered the first domino to fall, and Trump bent the knee. Trump didn't think this one through, Vlad the Impaler did.
BurnDoubt
(1,649 posts)This strikes a couple of items off his bucket list.
It gets the price of crude up for his investors.
It buys Putin some more time.
It threatens the arms commitments that are keeping Ukraine in the fight.
It totally disrupts the economies of all the countries that depend on trade through the Strait of Hormuz and further destabilizes the region as a whole.
It gives the Zealots encouragement that their Holy War is upon us and "The End Is Nigh, fulfilling the Gospel of Prosperity.
This, and MORE all in time for the Mid-Terms.
Winning!!!!!!!!
fujiyamasan
(1,621 posts)Their economies are much more reliant on foreign oil and natural gas than the US.
IronLionZion
(51,141 posts)slightlv
(7,760 posts)"cut off your nose to spite your face?" When you existentially threaten a sovereign country, how can you NOT think you might pay a price somehow... even if it does hurt the "enemy"... dumb sh*ts. No military experience from the top brass "fighting" this war, and not a war college credit among them. Give them BB guns.
BurnDoubt
(1,649 posts)IronLionZion
(51,141 posts)MAGA loves to punish their enemies but they never thought others would do the same.
moondust
(21,275 posts)Venezuela operation apparently went well. His other attacks haven't had much blowback. Like magic! He just snaps his fingers and shazam! He may even have a God complex.
After the protests in Iran maybe Bibi called him one day and said this was finally their big chance to get rid of the regime and have the support of all those protestors.
Maybe Lil Lindsey, Bolton, etc., advised him to go for it.
I have no idea how it ends but JCPOA knew it would require on-site inspections. Would Iran ever agree to that again?
twodogsbarking
(18,502 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,120 posts)Trump swore not to make the same mistake this time around, so he hired Hegseth.
Uncle Joe
(64,969 posts)They knew all along what would happen to oil or gas prices and this would help fund Putin's unprovoked war in Ukraine.
I would be surprised if Putin doesn't give *rump a medal of his own in between passing intelligence to the Iranians on Americans in the Gulf.
Thanks for the thread IronLionZion
Johonny
(26,061 posts)Just like they blame the covid shutdown on them. Somehow not being in power, they still live in the minds of MAGA.
BWdem4life
(2,991 posts)against mines and drones?