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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid Israel actually tricked Trump into war with Iran?
Maybe? But there is the knowledge that Trump is a bully and hes a narcissistic war monger. The first term he had people who pushed back against any wars. Now, in his 2nd term, he has war mongers who are the voices that that is patronizing his moves.
He always has threatened Iran from even before he took office. That is the bully in him. Tougher from the outside.
Israels plan is for Trump to do the heavy lifting and Israel will come in and pick up the slack, so to speak. Israel wants to be able to control the region and what a better way to do it? Have someone else start the process and they coned a con man to do it!
This war of attrition will end in a very bad way. Iran is not going anywhere and they actually control the narrative of war, because of the incompetent leadership in our military and government.
So, will Trump fold like a cheap suited puppet and cowardly begin whining about how he won? Yes! Yet, Iran will continue the war by proxy groups doing unspeakable acts against our country.
This war is not and will not be over for a very long time. Trump has given them the opening they have always wanted to achieve.
Thanks again Donald, you have found away to screw over the country again by your egotistical moronic self righteous inept and corrupt behavior.
Bettie
(19,614 posts)as its excuse to kill people in Lebanon and grab their land for "greater Israel"....territorial expansion.
rizlaplus
(166 posts)Because the whole thing seems to be a land grab where Israel expands into Lebanon.
gab13by13
(32,090 posts)Krasnov, a Russian agent, would not have been able to go to war unless Putin gave him permission. Putin fucked his ally Iran to get crude oil to jump in price to help finance his war in Ukraine.
Bibi most likely also has a copy of the Epstein files.
Krasnov is the biggest traitor this country has ever experienced. Putin is helping Iran kill Americans and Krasnov admitted it when he said that Russia may be helping a little bit. Krasnov then removes the oil sanctions on Russia so that Putin can make a lot of money.
The traitors in Congress are about to pass a Bill that will all but guarantee that traitors control the United States.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,307 posts)... that visit by Bibi right after Christmas to Mag A Lardo was to remind Der Dingleberry that, "something could slip out". Then the U.S. military started ramping up supplies to the bases in the Middle East.
Don't forget, Robert Maxwell and his spy connections.
Tetrachloride
(9,594 posts)to say the least
3_Limes
(505 posts)Trump is helpless against it.
Cosmocat
(15,404 posts)in that he is a cuck to the actual alpha autocrats:
No great explanation needed to relay how he sucks up to Putin, the red carpet in Alaska, etc.
In his first term he had that epic cringe fest ass kissing of King Jong Il.
He fawns all over Erdogon.
Bibi knew full well that after years of cucking the Rs primarily that DT was an easy mark and could be drug into this.
That said - the points you made about DT are true, I am not discounting that.
Just that Bibi drove this one 100%, then from day one went his own way, blowing up as many of the Iranian leaders as possible, taking out the ones that the DT idiot herd had pegged as the ones they wanted to try to prop up - that is how much of cuck Bibi takes him for.
DinahMoeHum
(23,565 posts). . .despite all his bluster and bullying.
Escape
(448 posts)very, very, very DUMB. Just plain dumb. "Unintelligent" is too kind a word to describe him.
The president of the United States has the mental capacity of a Third Grade "D student". He can't speak correctly, can't write legibly and probably can't read at all.
And, unfortunately, his world class stupidity isn't his worst trait.
dalton99a
(93,899 posts)hlthe2b
(113,733 posts)who is so damned desperate to play "tough guy" to Trump's sadistic fantasies--the manipulation of a already-willing Trump was quite easy.
But, yes, I think Netanyahu & Graham (in Trump's mind) gave him cover to do what he already wanted to do. Plus no one--outside at least a couple of Generals-ever tell him "no." They are terrified to. He doesn't hear the bad prognosis (or only from one or two Military reps and readily decides he can ignore them).
popsdenver
(2,194 posts)is alot smarter than Trump.........Bennie has conned Trump to have U.S. Taxpayers foot the military bill for this storming of IRAN...
Plus, they have mutual admiration for each other. They are both ego maniacal, sadistic, psychopaths.....
hlthe2b
(113,733 posts)Clouds Passing
(7,877 posts)BattleRow
(2,335 posts)Clouds Passing
(7,877 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,185 posts)Its not his kids who are dying.
ecstatic
(35,053 posts)This is my prediction based on trump's history. As things continue to devolve in the Middle East and gas prices are sky high, trump will be looking for someone else to blame. He can't blame anyone in the US because the generals warned him and he basically went into this unilaterally without any type of national discussion or pre-approval from Congress.
That leaves BB. When trump turns on BB, there's no telling what he will rile up in this country. trump could unleash antisemitism on a level we haven't seen since hitler, although it's possible he would be removed before things got to that point. Either way, the long-standing relationship between the US and Israel would likely be permanently severed.
QueerDuck
(1,604 posts)I think he may have been eager to divert attention from the Epstein headlines and needed no "tricking" at all. It may have been their initiative and their "idea" but he wasn't deceived in any way.
hay rick
(9,563 posts)Jared and Witkoff told him there would be riches. Miller told him anti-Muslim is a good look.
BattleRow
(2,335 posts)For the sake of correctness,I researched if this is true.
Well,some souces say this is no longer accurate,and indeed it had been mistranslated ,originally to mean war by way of counsel.
Just a bit of info in the cobwebs of my memories.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,961 posts)Possibly both.
Blue Full Moon
(3,409 posts)Xolodno
(7,343 posts)But I think even Bibi is now surprised just how much of this backfired and how hated this war is in the USA. Probably just assumed we would just rally together and drool with glee of bringing down the regime. Only, it didn't happen.