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D_Master81

(2,506 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:12 AM 4 hrs ago

How exactly do we get out of this war?

The more I think about the more screwed we are. The only way to get back to the way things were before the war is to escalate and achieve total victory which I have always thought would be almost impossible in a nation like Iran. Even if Trump Tacos and retreats does anyone think Iran just opens up the strait again for us? They would likely open up to anyone but is so prices of oil will remain higher than they were. If we try to capture the strait and hold it we face constant attacks on our military in a vulnerable position. I just don’t think Trump has any solution to a mess he’s made.

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How exactly do we get out of this war? (Original Post) D_Master81 4 hrs ago OP
Higher gas prices SocialDemocrat61 4 hrs ago #1
Does Trump care? He just withdraws US action from the area. Irish_Dem 4 hrs ago #2
Krasnov, a Russian agent, gab13by13 4 hrs ago #8
We shall see. Trump could screw Russia. Irish_Dem 3 hrs ago #11
There is a real possibility that Putin and Bibi gab13by13 3 hrs ago #13
I don't know how worried Trump is about the Epstein files. Irish_Dem 3 hrs ago #18
Lets ask Biden. nt BootinUp 4 hrs ago #3
Yup! Botany 4 hrs ago #4
Israel isn't going to quit first off, gab13by13 4 hrs ago #5
Trump seems to think WWIII AnnaLee 4 hrs ago #6
New president, immediate cease-fire, orderly disengagement, in that order. DFW 4 hrs ago #7
They are getting ready to pass gab13by13 3 hrs ago #10
How is the Save act getting through the Filibuster? maxsolomon 1 hr ago #24
That would be my first reaction but... S/V Loner 3 hrs ago #19
Trump will just declare victory and leave Johnny2X2X 4 hrs ago #9
Not this time, gab13by13 3 hrs ago #12
When they start up the draft again. Emile 3 hrs ago #14
One of two things, perhaps QED 3 hrs ago #15
It seems that best Trump has come up with is getting a bigger shovel underpants 3 hrs ago #16
A big recession IbogaProject 3 hrs ago #17
Which won't impact Trump in the least. Irish_Dem 3 hrs ago #20
And destabilizing swathes of the world with high energy costs JCMach1 26 min ago #25
This is a no win situation Buckeyeblue 3 hrs ago #21
I propose we give the Iranians Trump, Hegseth, and Rubio in exchange for a cease fire. surfered 1 hr ago #22
How do you stop Israel's expansionary ambitions in southern Lebanon Prairie Gates 1 hr ago #23
We hand over the entire executive leadership team to Iran sboatcar 24 min ago #26
That's the thing... We don't. RockRaven 13 min ago #27
It'll be up the next Democratic president to get the USA out of the 'excursion' RT Atlanta 9 min ago #28

Irish_Dem

(81,003 posts)
2. Does Trump care? He just withdraws US action from the area.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:27 AM
4 hrs ago

Walks away and goes on to his next crime.
Let someone else worry about it.

Doesn't hurt him in the least.

gab13by13

(32,090 posts)
8. Krasnov, a Russian agent,
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:44 AM
4 hrs ago

only walks away when Putin allows him.

For fuck's sake, Krasnov, a Russian agent, said publicly that Russia is helping Iran, a little bit, Iran is killing Americans. Then after a 1 hour phone call with Putin he removes oil sanctions on a man who is helping kill Americans.

The fucking MSM isn't going to say what I can say here, but Congressional Democrats should be saying it, no, should be shouting it. AOC and Senator Murphy are saying it, where are Chuck and Hakeem? They are getting ready to pass a law that all but guarantees that traitors will control the United States.

Krasnov, a Russian agent, is asking Congress for 50 billion more dollars for the war, we fired so many missiles and dropped so many bombs that we are running out. Some of those missiles take a month to build two and we are using them to blow up a girls' school. Who is reporting that the school we blew up was a double tap? We shot a missile and blew it up and then 20 minutes later we fired another missile to blow up the 1st responders.

Irish_Dem

(81,003 posts)
11. We shall see. Trump could screw Russia.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:48 AM
3 hrs ago

Between Trump's dementia and his rotten minders, who knows what will happen.
Trump is no longer totally predictable.

But generally he goes where there is cash for him and the easiest way out.
He is an opportunist criminal.

Yes Israel and Russia manipulated Trump into Iran.
It benefits them greatly.
Russia was on the verge of economic collapse.
Trump is saving Putin.

But Trump is now a wild card I think.

gab13by13

(32,090 posts)
13. There is a real possibility that Putin and Bibi
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 09:01 AM
3 hrs ago

have copies of the Epstein files.

What military arms have we given to Ukraine since Krasnov's 2nd reign?

We also have Whiskey Pete who wants to kill prisoners giving Krasnov advice. The MSM is pushing the narrative that we are winning the war. Krasnov even said the MSM is traitorous in its coverage of the war because his advisors are telling him what he wants to hear.

Krasnov may be demented enough to believe he can outwit Putin, I did give that a thought, but when he released the sanctions on Russian oil that convinced me otherwise.

Irish_Dem

(81,003 posts)
18. I don't know how worried Trump is about the Epstein files.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 09:14 AM
3 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Mar 16, 2026, 11:30 AM - Edit history (1)

The MAGAs don't care, and in fact love all of his crimes.
Neither the courts nor congress will do anything.

Of course Putin has the Epstein files.
He helped fund Epstein.
Not sure it helps him with Trump anymore.
Probably more with US congress and court judges who were part of the Epstein organization.

Perhaps Putin is giving Trump a cut of the oil profits.
Some sort of incentive.

Doesn't matter, Trump will screw everyone if he wants to, or can figure out a way to do so.
He will be your pal today and throw you under the bus tomorrow.

Botany

(77,154 posts)
4. Yup!
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:30 AM
4 hrs ago

Trump's Iranian war is shameful.

This unneeded war on the people of Iran is shameful, it will kill thousands, it has already
touched 17 different countries with violence, it will cause a trophic cascade of economic
damages around the world, it is hard to see an end point to it or an easy way out and it will
not change the fact that Donald Trump raped, beat, and sex trafficked children. We had an
excellent deal with Iran that would have kept them from ever building a nuclear weapon but
Trump tore up that deal and he is now claiming that he had to invade Iran because of the threat
of the Iranians building a nuclear weapon.

gab13by13

(32,090 posts)
5. Israel isn't going to quit first off,
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:33 AM
4 hrs ago

One doesn't kill the supreme leader and his family, and the son becomes the new supreme leader and expect the war to end until the son gets an eye for an eye. This is a religious war and Krasnov, a Russian agent, put the United States right in the middle of it.

There is no easy way out for Krasnov, a Russian agent. Putin wants the war to go on, wants crude at 200 dollars a barrel to help his failing economy and Comrade Krasnov will follow Putin's orders. Krasnov, a Russian agent admitted publicly that Russia is helping Iran to kill Americans a little bit, and then after a 1 hour conversation with Putin he removed oil sanctions on Russia. Krasnov, a Russian agent, is asking for 50 billion more dollars to fund the war.

Krasnov, a Russian agent, is the biggest traitor in this nation's history.

Putin will allow Trump, code name Krasnov, make money from the war, Beavis and Butthead now own a drone company.

AnnaLee

(1,382 posts)
6. Trump seems to think WWIII
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:33 AM
4 hrs ago

Trump seems to be trying to set the stage for escalation and spread of the Iran War to a global war. (Or someone whispering in his ear is pushing the seeds of such a risk)

The response from other countries seems to point to WWIII being between the US and the rest of the world.

DFW

(60,087 posts)
7. New president, immediate cease-fire, orderly disengagement, in that order.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:41 AM
4 hrs ago

Accomplish #1 and #2, and you can be more than halfway to #3 within a week.

gab13by13

(32,090 posts)
10. They are getting ready to pass
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:48 AM
3 hrs ago

the Save Act that will all but guarantee that traitors control our country.

Wife and I applied for mail in ballots a month ago here in Pa. Mail in ballots will be made illegal and I better be allowed to vote in person. My wife will probably have to bring her marriage license to vote.

S/V Loner

(9,535 posts)
19. That would be my first reaction but...
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 09:14 AM
3 hrs ago

then I realized just how deep the rot is and that the normal lines of succession would just put different lunatics in power. No I don’t have any answer based on our current realities.
VP- Vance
Speaker of the House - Johnson
President Pro Tempore of the Senate - Grassley
It will not work.

Johnny2X2X

(24,112 posts)
9. Trump will just declare victory and leave
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:45 AM
4 hrs ago

"We had the most successful war ever, believe me, no one thought it was possible. We have tremendously reduced Iran's threat and completely destroyed their ability to have a nuclear program."

He said we destroyed their nuclear program for decades just last year and the media parroted it until now. The thing about these follies is he doesn't have to be around for the consequences, so what does he really care?

gab13by13

(32,090 posts)
12. Not this time,
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 08:51 AM
3 hrs ago

Russia's economy is in the pits and Putin wants to see crude at 200 dollars a barrel. Krasnov, a Russian agent, only leaves Iran when Putin tells him it's OK. Krasnov is asking Congress for 50 billion more dollars for the war.

QED

(3,343 posts)
15. One of two things, perhaps
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 09:07 AM
3 hrs ago

1) F47 nukes Iran. I think he's itching to do it.

2) F47 dies. Would JD continue the war?

IbogaProject

(5,826 posts)
17. A big recession
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 09:14 AM
3 hrs ago

This is going to be a mess. Both Crypto and AI get less peofitible under increasing energy costs. And between worsening weather with increased crop losses on top of increased imput prices se are on a collision course with an severe recession.

JCMach1

(29,190 posts)
25. And destabilizing swathes of the world with high energy costs
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 12:21 PM
26 min ago

There will be revolts and revolutions because of this mess.

Militarily, I think Trump will try to seize Kharg island as a face saving bargaining chip for an out. Marine blood for a TACO deal.

Buckeyeblue

(6,337 posts)
21. This is a no win situation
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 09:22 AM
3 hrs ago

It seems Iran would rather blow up the entire ME region than give in to Trump and Isreal. My guess is that this scenario was given to Trump and he either didn't pay attention, didn't understand, he didn't believe it or he didn't care.

Regardless, Trump is never going to admit that he made a mistake.

Oil is high again and the oil companies are making money on oil that was probably pumped before we bombed Iran. And the are making off the backs of everyday working people.

Prairie Gates

(8,004 posts)
23. How do you stop Israel's expansionary ambitions in southern Lebanon
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 11:33 AM
1 hr ago

It is increasingly appearing as if the whole Iran attack is just a diversion for Israel's real aim, more Lebensraum in southern Lebanon.

sboatcar

(836 posts)
26. We hand over the entire executive leadership team to Iran
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 12:23 PM
24 min ago

Let them do whatever they want with them.

RockRaven

(19,201 posts)
27. That's the thing... We don't.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 12:33 PM
13 min ago

The ignorant pig in a wig does not understand what he is dealing with and neither do his minions who were doing the "negotiating" for him.

Iran is never going to do a nuclear deal like the JCPOA again, no matter who is in charge there. The US has shown that it cannot be trusted in the slightest to abide by such agreements, so why should they? Breaking that deal and dropping bombs like Trump has was a generation-level blunder, even before this latest round of mass murder which obviously makes things even worse.

There is no walking back, getting out, restoring normalcy. It's fucked up for decades.

RT Atlanta

(2,724 posts)
28. It'll be up the next Democratic president to get the USA out of the 'excursion'
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 12:37 PM
9 min ago

donnie's replacement once he keels over/is 25th amendment'd will only continue this mess and get more of our daughters and sons killed.

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