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Trump isn't sending ships to the Strait of Hormuz. Why is that, do you suppose?
Well, I don't have any actual names or times, but here's probably the reason:
Naval expert have told Trump that there is no viable way that US Navy ships can safeguard shipping vessels through that bottleneck. Worse, it would be very difficult to even defend the Naval vessels themselves. Since we have no control over the land bases at the Strait, Iran could easily attack any warships we send in there, and with almost zero warning.
Bottom line: "Don't try it, Mr. President! It will fail miserably."
So, Trump calls for other nations to do it. But they aren't about to do something so stupid. Not a freaking chance.
Trump is stuck and has no valid way to get unstuck from this situation. "Stupid is as stupid does," once again.
ms liberty
(11,190 posts)Everyone else could see from miles away just exactly how disastrous this would be. Only a malignant narcissist with dementia and a staff of evil nazis would fall for this.
Wounded Bear
(64,219 posts)with our other obligations around the world. I know trump doesn't really care about all that but still, resources are finite.
Wounded Bear
(64,219 posts)with our other obligations around the world. I know trump doesn't really care about all that but still, resources are finite.
efhmc
(16,569 posts)Maybe two of them are working at any given time.
efhmc
(16,569 posts)MineralMan
(151,129 posts)Trump made an oath after finishing the military school he was sent to by his father: "If I get out of here, I swear I will never read another book in my lifetime!"
He kept that oath, even though he has failed to keep others.
efhmc
(16,569 posts)GopherGal
(2,883 posts)All such non-toady humans have long since disappeared from the Maladministration. I suspect some sort of narcissism weapon has been secretly deployed which repels any non-toadies and has to be turned off for certain diplomatic visits so that someone like Zelenskyy can get within 100 feet of him.
efhmc
(16,569 posts)leftstreet
(40,306 posts)That would be newsworthy
MineralMan
(151,129 posts)They know how to evade Trump's orders. They are that much smarter than he is that he doesn't even notice.
leftstreet
(40,306 posts)German defense minister Pistorius this morning:
"What does Trump expect a handful of European frigates to do that the powerful US navy cannot?"
MineralMan
(151,129 posts)Rebl2
(17,650 posts)broke it and only they can fix it. So I am guessing this is going to drag on a while.
underpants
(196,200 posts)When hes not in the room? Jesus Ming Christ WE ing TOLD him and that stupid frat boy about this but NOOOOOO what do we know? Theyll just give up they said.
Swede
(39,244 posts)With lots of mentions of TRUMP.
Nittersing
(8,327 posts)I suspect it is very close to the truth.
funny/not funny
spanone
(141,412 posts)maxsolomon
(38,583 posts)Which Repuke congressperson would vote to Impeach?
Roc2020
(1,776 posts)scenarios to escape are horrific. Walk away-Israel is left alone to fight. Put soldiers on Iran's soil, Iran waiting for that for decades to kill american trrops, Nuke Iran, Israel gets nuked. Trapped.
MineralMan
(151,129 posts)Other nations aren't so stupid, though.
Roc2020
(1,776 posts)Happy Hoosier
(9,521 posts)Detecting and countering small naval drones is in its infancy. Most of our defences are oriented towards airborne threats.
As Ukraine has proven, it's virtually certain that a determined naval drone user will sneak one through now and again.
MiHale
(12,944 posts)Then theyll forget about Iran, high prices, terrorist attacks, oh yeah almost forgot EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN.
A sarcastic bent
GusBob
(8,237 posts)Is the Navy requesting that?
Are they trying to flood the zone with decoys and targets?
Is he trying to draw other countries into the conflict by getting one of their ships destroyed and sailors killed?
Does he think he can build a coalition?
Coming soon: he will claim anti-semitism because they wont help Israel
MineralMan
(151,129 posts)Cleverly, all of the European countries are saying "NO WAY!"
And he can't order anyone to join him in his stupidity.
lostnfound
(17,492 posts)1) nukes
2) complete and sudden withdrawal of US from Mideast
Sane presidents would do neither. But he remains stuck in his terrible two, with the worlds most fearsome arsenal at his disposal.
MineralMan
(151,129 posts)You forgot that one.
gab13by13
(32,090 posts)2 of them are in Asia right now.
Scubamatt
(302 posts)when confronted with failure . . . Declare Victory, and command his media to replicate that message far and wide, announcing that in all the history of victories, there had never been a more victorious victory. The people will lap it up, and he will move on to the next distraction/disaster.
ffr
(23,371 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,760 posts)dalton99a
(93,899 posts)The answer was straightforward: Even one Iranian soldier or militia member zipping across the narrow neck of the strait in a speedboat could fire a mobile missile right into a slow-moving supertanker, or plant a limpet mine on its hull.
With oil already hovering around $100 a barrel, and insurance premiums for transiting the Persian Gulf surging, the image of more burning tankers would make the Iranians look more powerful than they really are. Already, having seen Iran attack shipping around the strait, tanker owners are refusing to take the risk, even after Mr. Trump declared on Fox last Sunday that they should show some guts.
The strait was Exhibit A in Irans ability to seize an asymmetric advantage. Despite ramped-up strikes in recent days against what little is left of the Iranian Navy, traffic through the strait has come to a near halt. A New York Times analysis concluded that as of Thursday, at least 16 oil tankers, cargo ships and other commercial vessels had been attacked in the Persian Gulf, including three in the narrowest part of the strait.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/15/us/politics/trump-stark-choices-iran-war.html
LilElf70
(1,542 posts)when you go into an unprovoked, illegal, no reason to attack, war. To make matters worse, there was absolutely no plan for after his initial hits.
gfarber
(266 posts)There once was a Donald named Trump,
Who faced quite a maritime slump.
Advisers all said,
Send ships there and youre dead
That strait would make warships go thump.
He asked, Can our Navy defend
Those tankers from end unto end?
The experts replied,
With Iran on each side,
Your ships would be targets, my friend.
With land bases not in our grip,
Theyd strike any escorting ship.
No warning would sound,
Just missiles inbound
Best not start that dangerous trip.
So Trump said, Perhaps allies could try
Send fleets through that narrow pass by.
But nations all thought,
That plans overwrought
Not us, wed much rather not die.
And so in a puzzling morass,
Hes stuck like a mule in the grass.
The lesson, some say,
Still echoes today:
Stupid does what stupid has.
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Xolodno
(7,342 posts)I believe he's genuinely pissed from his first term when he was told "you can't do _insert whatever_" He is now doing what he wants and believes in his warped brain we are capable of doing anything. So who cares what they say, optics, strategy, logistics, etc. be damned.