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MineralMan

(151,129 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:44 AM 2 hrs ago

What Is the U.S. Navy Telling Trump?

Trump isn't sending ships to the Strait of Hormuz. Why is that, do you suppose?

Well, I don't have any actual names or times, but here's probably the reason:

Naval expert have told Trump that there is no viable way that US Navy ships can safeguard shipping vessels through that bottleneck. Worse, it would be very difficult to even defend the Naval vessels themselves. Since we have no control over the land bases at the Strait, Iran could easily attack any warships we send in there, and with almost zero warning.

Bottom line: "Don't try it, Mr. President! It will fail miserably."

So, Trump calls for other nations to do it. But they aren't about to do something so stupid. Not a freaking chance.

Trump is stuck and has no valid way to get unstuck from this situation. "Stupid is as stupid does," once again.

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What Is the U.S. Navy Telling Trump? (Original Post) MineralMan 2 hrs ago OP
There's a reason no other POTUS has given in to Netanyahu's wet dream before now ms liberty 1 hr ago #1
Not to mention they're starting to get stretched pretty thin... Wounded Bear 1 hr ago #2
Not to mention they're starting to get stretched pretty thin... Wounded Bear 1 hr ago #3
So are brain cells of which he has perhaps three. efhmc 1 hr ago #5
And... 2naSalit 10 min ago #36
"You are a bonafide idiot. Try reading (ha) a book on naval history or talking to someone who is not a toady. efhmc 1 hr ago #4
"What?!? Read a Book?" MineralMan 1 hr ago #9
Thanks. Makes for a very sad, backward country. efhmc 1 hr ago #30
Not a toady? GopherGal 1 hr ago #22
Thank you for the "toady" breakdown. I need to examine the concept better. efhmc 1 hr ago #28
If they're defying Trump, someone should leak it leftstreet 1 hr ago #6
They're doing it very, very diplomatically. MineralMan 1 hr ago #14
He's getting mocked by world leaders leftstreet 1 hr ago #19
Exactly! MineralMan 1 hr ago #20
He and Bibi Rebl2 1 hr ago #7
To his face? Yes SIR! underpants 1 hr ago #8
Well, right now, they are transforming their security briefing into a brightly colored comic book. Swede 1 hr ago #10
LOL! MineralMan 1 hr ago #15
Well I laughed too but Nittersing 1 hr ago #21
He had a 'feeling'. So he went to war. IMPEACH NOW. spanone 1 hr ago #11
How? maxsolomon 31 min ago #33
He trapped the US armed forces...all Roc2020 1 hr ago #12
Trapped himself, as well. MineralMan 1 hr ago #17
Yes he did. Roc2020 1 hr ago #18
Naval drones. That's why. Happy Hoosier 1 hr ago #13
Ehh...screw this ...let's go get us some Cuba... MiHale 1 hr ago #16
I'm trying to figure out why he is asking other countries? GusBob 1 hr ago #23
All of that. MineralMan 1 hr ago #25
Cornered animals most dangerous. Two ways out lostnfound 1 hr ago #24
3. The War with Iran is Over! WE WON, BIGLY! MineralMan 1 hr ago #26
There are 3 US mine sweepers gab13by13 1 hr ago #27
He'll do what he always does . . . Scubamatt 1 hr ago #29
I love it when REALITY catches up with ALTERNATIVE FACTS. ffr 46 min ago #31
Agree LymphocyteLover 34 min ago #32
Kick dalton99a 30 min ago #34
This is what happens LilElf70 25 min ago #35
The Strait Dilemma gfarber 10 min ago #37
I don't think it matters what they tell him. Xolodno 4 min ago #38

ms liberty

(11,190 posts)
1. There's a reason no other POTUS has given in to Netanyahu's wet dream before now
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:49 AM
1 hr ago

Everyone else could see from miles away just exactly how disastrous this would be. Only a malignant narcissist with dementia and a staff of evil nazis would fall for this.

Wounded Bear

(64,219 posts)
2. Not to mention they're starting to get stretched pretty thin...
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:50 AM
1 hr ago

with our other obligations around the world. I know trump doesn't really care about all that but still, resources are finite.

Wounded Bear

(64,219 posts)
3. Not to mention they're starting to get stretched pretty thin...
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:50 AM
1 hr ago

with our other obligations around the world. I know trump doesn't really care about all that but still, resources are finite.

efhmc

(16,569 posts)
4. "You are a bonafide idiot. Try reading (ha) a book on naval history or talking to someone who is not a toady.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:52 AM
1 hr ago

MineralMan

(151,129 posts)
9. "What?!? Read a Book?"
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:56 AM
1 hr ago

Trump made an oath after finishing the military school he was sent to by his father: "If I get out of here, I swear I will never read another book in my lifetime!"

He kept that oath, even though he has failed to keep others.

GopherGal

(2,883 posts)
22. Not a toady?
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 11:10 AM
1 hr ago

All such non-toady humans have long since disappeared from the Maladministration. I suspect some sort of narcissism weapon has been secretly deployed which repels any non-toadies and has to be turned off for certain diplomatic visits so that someone like Zelenskyy can get within 100 feet of him.

MineralMan

(151,129 posts)
14. They're doing it very, very diplomatically.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:57 AM
1 hr ago

They know how to evade Trump's orders. They are that much smarter than he is that he doesn't even notice.

leftstreet

(40,306 posts)
19. He's getting mocked by world leaders
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 11:02 AM
1 hr ago

German defense minister Pistorius this morning:

"What does Trump expect a handful of European frigates to do that the powerful US navy cannot?"


Rebl2

(17,650 posts)
7. He and Bibi
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:54 AM
1 hr ago

broke it and only they can fix it. So I am guessing this is going to drag on a while.

underpants

(196,200 posts)
8. To his face? Yes SIR!
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:55 AM
1 hr ago

When he’s not in the room? Jesus M—————ing Christ WE ——ing TOLD him and that stupid frat boy about this but NOOOOOO what do we know? They’ll just give up they said.

Swede

(39,244 posts)
10. Well, right now, they are transforming their security briefing into a brightly colored comic book.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:56 AM
1 hr ago

With lots of mentions of TRUMP.

Roc2020

(1,776 posts)
12. He trapped the US armed forces...all
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:57 AM
1 hr ago

scenarios to escape are horrific. Walk away-Israel is left alone to fight. Put soldiers on Iran's soil, Iran waiting for that for decades to kill american trrops, Nuke Iran, Israel gets nuked. Trapped.

Happy Hoosier

(9,521 posts)
13. Naval drones. That's why.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:57 AM
1 hr ago

Detecting and countering small naval drones is in its infancy. Most of our defences are oriented towards airborne threats.
As Ukraine has proven, it's virtually certain that a determined naval drone user will sneak one through now and again.

MiHale

(12,944 posts)
16. Ehh...screw this ...let's go get us some Cuba...
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 10:58 AM
1 hr ago

Then they’ll forget about Iran, high prices, terrorist attacks, oh yeah almost forgot EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN.

A sarcastic bent…

GusBob

(8,237 posts)
23. I'm trying to figure out why he is asking other countries?
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 11:12 AM
1 hr ago

Is the Navy requesting that?
Are they trying to flood the zone with decoys and targets?
Is he trying to draw other countries into the conflict by getting one of their ships destroyed and sailors killed?
Does he think he can build a coalition?

Coming soon: he will claim anti-semitism because they won’t help Israel

MineralMan

(151,129 posts)
25. All of that.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 11:15 AM
1 hr ago

Cleverly, all of the European countries are saying "NO WAY!"

And he can't order anyone to join him in his stupidity.

lostnfound

(17,492 posts)
24. Cornered animals most dangerous. Two ways out
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 11:13 AM
1 hr ago

1) nukes
2) complete and sudden withdrawal of US from Mideast

Sane presidents would do neither. But he remains stuck in his terrible two, with the world’s most fearsome arsenal at his disposal.

Scubamatt

(302 posts)
29. He'll do what he always does . . .
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 11:29 AM
1 hr ago

when confronted with failure . . . Declare Victory, and command his media to replicate that message far and wide, announcing that in all the history of victories, there had never been a more victorious victory. The people will lap it up, and he will move on to the next distraction/disaster.

dalton99a

(93,899 posts)
34. Kick
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 12:16 PM
30 min ago
At a meeting in the Oval Office last week, a frustrated Mr. Trump pressed Gen. Dan Caine, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, about why the United States could not immediately reopen the Strait of Hormuz.

The answer was straightforward: Even one Iranian soldier or militia member zipping across the narrow neck of the strait in a speedboat could fire a mobile missile right into a slow-moving supertanker, or plant a limpet mine on its hull.


With oil already hovering around $100 a barrel, and insurance premiums for transiting the Persian Gulf surging, the image of more burning tankers would make the Iranians look more powerful than they really are. Already, having seen Iran attack shipping around the strait, tanker owners are refusing to take the risk, even after Mr. Trump declared on Fox last Sunday that they should “show some guts.”

The strait was Exhibit A in Iran’s ability to seize an asymmetric advantage. Despite ramped-up strikes in recent days against what little is left of the Iranian Navy, traffic through the strait has come to a near halt. A New York Times analysis concluded that as of Thursday, at least 16 oil tankers, cargo ships and other commercial vessels had been attacked in the Persian Gulf, including three in the narrowest part of the strait.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/15/us/politics/trump-stark-choices-iran-war.html

LilElf70

(1,542 posts)
35. This is what happens
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 12:22 PM
25 min ago

when you go into an unprovoked, illegal, no reason to attack, war. To make matters worse, there was absolutely no plan for after his initial hits.

gfarber

(266 posts)
37. The Strait Dilemma
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 12:36 PM
10 min ago


There once was a Donald named Trump,
Who faced quite a maritime slump.
Advisers all said,
“Send ships there and you’re dead—
That strait would make warships go thump.”

He asked, “Can our Navy defend
Those tankers from end unto end?”
The experts replied,
“With Iran on each side,
Your ships would be targets, my friend.”

“With land bases not in our grip,
They’d strike any escorting ship.
No warning would sound,
Just missiles inbound—
Best not start that dangerous trip.”

So Trump said, “Perhaps allies could try—
Send fleets through that narrow pass by.”
But nations all thought,
“That plan’s overwrought…
Not us, we’d much rather not die.”

And so in a puzzling morass,
He’s stuck like a mule in the grass.
The lesson, some say,
Still echoes today:
“Stupid does what stupid has.

Disclaimer: Yes, an AI helped write this—because if you’re looking for pure, hand-crafted literary suffering, you’re welcome to go produce some yourself. If you like my attempts, consider clicking the link.

https://buymeacoffee.com/gfarber



Xolodno

(7,342 posts)
38. I don't think it matters what they tell him.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 12:42 PM
4 min ago

I believe he's genuinely pissed from his first term when he was told "you can't do _insert whatever_" He is now doing what he wants and believes in his warped brain we are capable of doing anything. So who cares what they say, optics, strategy, logistics, etc. be damned.

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