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B.See

(8,349 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 04:05 PM 19 hrs ago

Tipster breaks into Epstein ranch and hands Dem lawmakers explosive evidence: report

Truth or fiction? Where Trump or Epstein are concerned, difficult to tell.

Tipster breaks into Epstein ranch and hands Dem lawmakers explosive evidence: report - Rawstory via MSN

Two Democratic state lawmakers from New Mexico were handed an explosive collection of evidence related to Jeffrey Epstein last month from an individual who claimed to have broken into the disgraced financier’s infamous Zorro Ranch, New Mexico Justice Department files obtained by Al Jazeera revealed on Tuesday.

The speculation surrounding the property, coupled with the lack of law enforcement investigations into the complex, apparently drove one individual to take matters into their own hands. In an email to New Mexico Democratic state Reps. Andrea Romero and Marianna Anaya, the person claimed had "orchestrated a break-in” at the property — and they shared their disturbing findings.

“In the summer of 2020, I orchestrated a break-in at the El Zorro property. I realize this might be illegal, but men like that don’t deserve the protection of the law,” the individual wrote in a Feb. 16 email along with photographs they allegedly took on the property. They left their name redacted.

“We believe that they removed the bodies as there were multiple shallow grave-like plots that were dug up. In the White Yurt, they must have been doing rituals where they felt like they needed a defibrillator. In the files the Yurt is mentioned, as well as how to clean it.”

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Tipster breaks into Epstein ranch and hands Dem lawmakers explosive evidence: report (Original Post) B.See 19 hrs ago OP
I sooo want this to be true alittlelark 18 hrs ago #1
sure has been a lot of smoke, eh? B.See 18 hrs ago #2
There certainly has PatSeg 17 hrs ago #4
Story via aljazeera progressoid 17 hrs ago #3
Careful, this reminds me of the Roger Stone setup of Dan Rather. tanyev 17 hrs ago #5
Sounds Fake But 2na fisherman 17 hrs ago #6
Is that true? JMCKUSICK 17 hrs ago #8
Inadmissible Evidence 2na fisherman 16 hrs ago #11
I think there is also a doctrine of "poisoned fruit" or something like that Bluetus 15 hrs ago #15
That applies to how the government conducts its investigations questionseverything 2 hrs ago #19
So, are you saying Bluetus 18 min ago #20
Independent Source exception. Iggo 16 hrs ago #12
How and why did this property escape scrutiny for so long? Deuxcents 17 hrs ago #7
Crypto currency mercuryblues 16 hrs ago #9
LOL...pretty sure on the Why. Iggo 16 hrs ago #13
Buried the bodies in the damn desert...unmarked graves out past Terlingua...still got the shovel. sop 16 hrs ago #10
"" AllaN01Bear 16 hrs ago #14
I sure hope whoever took these pictures had brains enough to collect GPS coordinates where they were taken. flashman13 15 hrs ago #16
Coordinates would have far more value than pictures alone. flashman13 15 hrs ago #17
So they broke in in 2020? And we dont know if its true or false yet? IcyPeas 15 hrs ago #18

progressoid

(53,118 posts)
3. Story via aljazeera
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 05:20 PM
17 hrs ago
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/17/tipster-claims-to-have-seen-grave-like-plots-at-epsteins-zorro-ranch
A member of the public claims to have seen “grave-like plots” at Jeffrey Epstein’s former ranch in New Mexico and has shared photos of the purported burial sites with lawmakers investigating the late American sex offender.

The tipster shared the images with the two state lawmakers last month amid renewed scrutiny of Epstein’s activities at the Zorro Ranch.

tanyev

(49,188 posts)
5. Careful, this reminds me of the Roger Stone setup of Dan Rather.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 05:39 PM
17 hrs ago

Investigators should pursue it, but don’t trust the info unless fully verified.

2na fisherman

(312 posts)
6. Sounds Fake But
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 05:43 PM
17 hrs ago

...even if true, this "evidence" is tainted by being illegally obtained. So such revelations may be interesting but inadmissible in any future trials.

2na fisherman

(312 posts)
11. Inadmissible Evidence
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 06:20 PM
16 hrs ago

I'm no lawyer but I've heard of a legal doctrine called "clean hands" which basically says that evidence obtained by theft or fraudulent means may be suppressed by a motion of the defense as illegally obtained so it may not be presented in court as valid evidence by the prosecution. I don't know of any exceptions to this rule. Perhaps there might be one in cases involving sexual abuse of minors.

Bluetus

(2,710 posts)
15. I think there is also a doctrine of "poisoned fruit" or something like that
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 07:26 PM
15 hrs ago

It says that evidence that was subsequently developed is inadmissible if it would not have been exposed, but for the illegally obtained evidence.

All of this begs the question why law enforcement never investigated any of this. This spans decades and many administrations of both parties. And let's not forget that Garland had all of this information and did absolutely nothing.

The fact that such a massive criminal enterprise could go on for 30 years without any enforcement (other than slaps on the wrist to Epstein) begs the question how many other similar things have the rich and powerful been getting away with, while we keep building for-profit prisons to house people selling crack and weed.

questionseverything

(11,784 posts)
19. That applies to how the government conducts its investigations
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 08:46 AM
2 hrs ago

It doesn’t stop an individual from giving testimony no matter how it’s obtained although if an individual did something illegal in the process that could tarnish the jury’s confidence in their testimony

Bluetus

(2,710 posts)
20. So, are you saying
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 10:47 AM
18 min ago

for a hypothetical example, this private citizen illegally broke into the property and discovered holes that could have been graves, took pictures that revealed what looked like clothing parts, and gave the pictures to the local police. The police get a search warrant, go to the site, collect the weathered clothing samples, and nearby, discover a shovel which has some fingerprints. Are you saying that the clothing remnants, shovel and fingerprints would be admissible in a trial?

sop

(18,450 posts)
10. Buried the bodies in the damn desert...unmarked graves out past Terlingua...still got the shovel.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 06:17 PM
16 hrs ago

flashman13

(2,360 posts)
16. I sure hope whoever took these pictures had brains enough to collect GPS coordinates where they were taken.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 07:38 PM
15 hrs ago
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