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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHYSAs have outperformed the DOW since Trump took office
High Yield Savings Accounts have been a better place for your money than the DOW since Trumps inauguration.
So GTFO with this, "But the DOW is over 50,000" garbage. It's been a terrible 14 months for Stocks! DOW was 44,424 when Trump took it over, it's 45,800 right now, a 3.0% return in 14 months. The DOW has averaged +10.4% per year over the last 30 years.+
The economy is in literal shambles. Jerome Powell yesterday:
"Effectively, there's zero net job creation in the private sector," after accounting for revisions over the past six months, Jerome Powell said. "But actually, that looks like that's about what the economy needs, in terms of dealing with very, very low nonexistent, really growth in the labor force, which of course we've never had in our history."
Inflation is rising again. GDP is taking. No jobs created means workers are about to get hammered. We're heading towards a disaster that could make 2008 look like good times. And as it's hitting, people are going to realize Trump completely dismantled the social programs that help working families survive recessions. We are going to see things get scary and very ugly when people can't feed their families.
We have to get off this train. It's a madhouse.
617Blue
(2,420 posts)This should be a screaming headline everywhere.
Johnny2X2X
(24,140 posts)This is a bigger deal than inflation and is getting like 1/1000th the coverage in the media. The working class is about to be decimated and no one cares. 14 months with no jobs added is simply a recipe for a Depression, it's a severe crisis and the country needs to be informed.
GDP tanking. No new jobs. And Inflation is back on the rise. Economy is pretty much screwed.
LakeVermilion
(1,567 posts)there will be openings in the military.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,030 posts)It wasnt true even a couple of weeks ago, and wont be true a year from now, because if markets continue to fall, and inflation climbs interest rates will drop, taking HYSA with it.
My portfolio made 16% last year. HYSAs pay what, 1.9% for a minimum $10k balance?
Kind of a misleading metric for a headline IMO.
Johnny2X2X
(24,140 posts)Could get 5% early last year.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,030 posts)And how long is the term (assuming it is a CD and not a simple savings account- No FDIC bank is offering that)
Johnny2X2X
(24,140 posts)3.65% today, no fees or minimum deposit. Withdraw any time. It's a standard Savings Account.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,030 posts)Ill take my balanced and diversified portfolio any day, even in down years.
That Marcus account didnt outperform the S&P for 2025, and if things continue the way they are, it wont in 2026, as the interest rate will drop precipitously.
Johnny2X2X
(24,140 posts)But my emergency fund is plopped in a HYSA. Gives me a warm feeling seeing it go up a few tens of dollar every month.
The whole point though is that the DOW, which Trump and his cabal brag endlessly about, is being outperformed since he took office by freaking savings accounts.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,030 posts)And isnt likely to continue over the long run, unless Goldman Sachs intends to deliberately choose to become insolvent.
yellowcanine
(36,775 posts)just a few weeks ago to deflect from Epstein etc. - well that didnt age so well.
Johnny2X2X
(24,140 posts)They can't even brag about the DOW anymore, it's performance under Trump has been pathetic.
ananda
(35,031 posts)So far so good.