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dalton99a

(93,975 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 12:07 PM 21 hrs ago

The war criminal Netanyahu doesn't care about the well-being of normal Americans or the world. Fuck him.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/world/europe/iran-us-israel-goals.html

Israel and the U.S. Are Starting to Show Their Different Priorities in Iran
The United States views Iran through a prism of global responsibilities and strategic goals. Israel has a more regional approach. After nearly three weeks of war, their paths are diverging.
By Steven Erlanger
March 20, 2026 Updated 9:27 a.m. ET

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Israel has its own natural gas, little dependency on the Strait of Hormuz, where Iran has a chokehold on the transport of fuel, and no responsibility for the free flow of global trade.

Washington is focused much more now on the problem of the Strait of Hormuz, she said, since a lengthy closure could mean a sustained global recession and higher fuel prices.

“Israel doesn’t care as much about this,” she said. “They have a set of strategic objectives and believe they are succeeding, and they’re not as price sensitive as the White House. They are more willing to weather the storm and try to finish the job.”

It sees an extraordinary opportunity to clobber Iran with American help, and it is likely to want to continue the war longer than President Trump, these analysts said.

So the attack on Iran’s South Pars facility, from which Iran gets most of its natural gas for domestic consumption, was a logical move for Israel, as was an earlier bombing attack on Iranian fuel depots, which Washington also criticized privately, analysts and officials say.

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From NYT comments:

Rob S
San Francisco · 29m ago
It's time to tell Netanyahu stop, and to finish what he started on his own. We don't need another Iraq. The American Taxpayers, and soldiers, cannot take another quagmire just to benefit Bibi.

Sid Ghosh
Toronto · 11m ago
The biggest threat to America isn't Russia, which can barely manage to hold Ukraine's east. It isn't China, which seeks trade more than war. It's Israel. Israel is going to continue dragging America into pointless wars to grab land in the Middle East and America ALSO has to pay for it through money and lives. Never in history before has a tiny country controlled the superpower of its time like this.

Ron Coleman
Detroit · 12m ago
And let’s not forget that in addition to all the dead, the fractured alliances, the strait closure and the resulting economic crisis, Trump also handed the world and the oppressed people of Iran another ayatollah 30 years younger (!) and bent on revenge. Some art of the deal.

Abe
Detroit · 1h ago
If the goal is peace and stability, the United States needs to extricate itself from the state of Israel’s constant agitation for war. If the United States decides to use its immense leverage on Israel, then the region could stabilize and security could be found for Israel and the entire region.
Israel, instead, sees a chance to create an oasis in the Middle East in a sea of decimated, failed states…that’s their vision of the future.
It’s hard to imagine a word where Witkoff and Kushner deviate from this vision.

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The war criminal Netanyahu doesn't care about the well-being of normal Americans or the world. Fuck him. (Original Post) dalton99a 21 hrs ago OP
Israel has a navy and they have soldiers. They need to do it themselves. Blue Full Moon 20 hrs ago #1
Why would they when they can have us do it? 3_Limes 20 hrs ago #3
Doesn't even mention that we're radicalizing a whole new generarion of terrorists. 3_Limes 20 hrs ago #2
+1. Winning hearts and minds dalton99a 20 hrs ago #4
Lebensraum in The Oasis. Lots of room there. AloeVera 18 hrs ago #5
+1. Pretty soon the world will be sick and tired of hearing about the Holocaust or October 7 dalton99a 18 hrs ago #7
It's a tragedy all around. AloeVera 13 hrs ago #8
And neither do Donvict and his fascist, racist woman-hating malaise 18 hrs ago #6
War criminals just care about each other. UTUSN 11 hrs ago #9
DURec leftstreet 10 hrs ago #10

3_Limes

(512 posts)
3. Why would they when they can have us do it?
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 12:48 PM
20 hrs ago

This has been a stated goal of some Israeli factions for some time now. They were just waiting for an American administration pliable enough, or dumb enough, to go along with them, and that patience paid off.

3_Limes

(512 posts)
2. Doesn't even mention that we're radicalizing a whole new generarion of terrorists.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 12:45 PM
20 hrs ago

A young, motivated and technologically adept group that will be with us for decades.

dalton99a

(93,975 posts)
4. +1. Winning hearts and minds
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 12:49 PM
20 hrs ago
https://apnews.com/article/iran-iraq-us-israel-trump-march-19-2026-52e94398f2432b3aba9b02b51fbe5000
Israel hits Tehran with airstrikes on Persian New Year

https://apnews.com/article/iran-war-france-nowruz-paris-baf8fc43af567f94170fff5fc02475b8
Iranian diaspora marks Nowruz with heavy hearts as war cuts contact with loved ones

Some of the diners who come to Ghadimi’s restaurant for flame-grilled kebabs and spiced rice hope the war will bring a new dawn. Other can’t see past the deaths and destruction wrought by Israeli and U.S. strikes.

“I have people in tears. I have people who cry for joy. They say, ‘Did you see? They are coming. We are going to be saved.’ Others say, ‘Our country is being destroyed,’” she said.

AloeVera

(4,221 posts)
5. Lebensraum in The Oasis. Lots of room there.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 03:17 PM
18 hrs ago

But only the right kind of people are welcome to live in that Oasis created out of the ashes of other people's countries and homeland.

It's almost like history repeats or something.

The rest - tens if not hundreds of millions of people - can die, live in failed-state or stateless misery or try to swim the Mediterranean for all Bibi et al care.

And let's not kid ourselves. A sizable section of Israelis are cheering this on.

If only this could have been foreseen when he was destroying Gaza!! But who knew that was just a dress rehearsal?

dalton99a

(93,975 posts)
7. +1. Pretty soon the world will be sick and tired of hearing about the Holocaust or October 7
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 03:23 PM
18 hrs ago

AloeVera

(4,221 posts)
8. It's a tragedy all around.
Fri Mar 20, 2026, 08:28 PM
13 hrs ago

More innocent people will get hurt.

And it all could have been prevented.

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