Trump's new AI policy framework says the admin doesn't believe training AI on copyrighted work is copyright infringement

[highplainsdem]

It is, of course.

The framework goes on to say that Congress shouldn't take any action but should allow the courts to decide.

Which is almost guaranteed to mean that Trump is sure the corrupt conservatives on the Supreme Court will give their blessing to the AI robber barons' theft of the world's intellectual property, between Trump's threats and what are likely huge bribes from the AI companies.

My guess is that Trump decided against trying to get his flunkies on Capitol Hill to change copyright law to favor the AI robber barons after the current Labour government in the UK, while bizarrely trying to help the AI companies get around their problem stealing from UK creatives, ran into an avalanche of public opinion in favor of the creatives. As in a public consultation on their proposed change to copyright law getting only 3% support after months of feedback from the the public, and Labour possibly losing a lot of support it will need in the next election, after their idiotic and craven attempt to pander to American tech companies.

Trump apparently wants to avoid the American public having much awareness of AI having been trained on stolen intellectual property. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to fast-track a decision to pretend the AI robber barons' theft was legal. It wasn't, isn't and never will be, and if anyone thinks creatives will simply accept such a court decision, they haven't been paying attention and don't understand artists and other creatives.

A ruling giving everyone's intellectual property to the AI companies would be no more legitimate than the ruling giving Trump immunity, which none of us consider legitimate and all of us believe should be reversed asap. And if any AI users here would be in favor of the SC trying to legalize that theft - if anyone would welcome it so they wouldn't have to deal with the fact they're using illegally trained tech - you're on the wrong side of this human rights issue and pro-oligarch.

I hope everyone here understands that it's important to protect creatives and intellectual property rights. Creatives should not be sacrificed for the lunatic oligarchs controlling the tech industry. Defending IP rights is an integral part of the fight against oligarchs and wannabe fascists.

LBN thread about CNBC's story on the policy framework: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143635753

[malaise]

1. Isn't he the emperor of using other people's work

without permission?

[highplainsdem]

8. Yep. Fits right in with the AI robber barons.

[snot]

2. Is this about the TRUMP AMERICA AI Act?

This is a HUGE piece of legislation that would drastically alter the status quo in a number of areas, including the data sets used for AI training. I came across this description, which seems at least somewhat inconsistent with yours, and also describes a lot of provisions that would dramatically affect other matters: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-america-ai-act-repeals-section-230-expands-liability-and-establishes-centralized . No warranties re- how accurate the article is, but it suggests the depth and breadth of the legislation.

I care deeply about the rights of creators, that said, I'm perhaps even more urgently concerned that we halt any further consolidation of federal power to diminish our Constitutional rights of speech and privacy, since imho, the Pres. has already accrued too much power in too many areas.

[highplainsdem]

4. That ZeroHedge article misinterprets what the administration said. See the screenshot at the end

of my OP. The Trump admin makes it clear that they consider what the AI companies have done, training without permission on copyrighted work, to be legal, but they want a court decision instead of a debate in Congress.

They saw the Labour government in the UK fail, trying to get legislative approval there.

Trump wouldn't say he wants the courts to decide unless he already had assurances SCOTUS would rule in favor of the AI companies.

[GiqueCee]

3. IT'S NOT THAT ASSHOLE'S DECISION TO MAKE!

Copyright law is the law of the land. God I hate that evil fuck.

[highplainsdem]

10. He's obviously expecting the Supreme Court to "interpret" the law to rule that outright theft is fair use.

[GiqueCee]

13. Considering that corrupt crew...

... of a majority, I wouldn't be surprised. Clowns like Roberts are always so concerned about their "legacy", that one has to wonder, are they totally delusional? Can they not understand that their decisions will guarantee that they will be despised for eternity?

[highplainsdem]

14. They're delusional...and afraid of Trump.

[GiqueCee]

15. They already know this...

... but Trump's all mouth; it's the idiots that idolize him they have to watch out for. Those shit-brained fuckers are capable anything.

[EdmondDantes_]

5. And because the Trump administration has no idea what it's doing

The previous Trump executive order that Marsha Blackburn is trying to get through Congress as a law has training on copyright covered data not fair use.

[highplainsdem]

6. The framework issued today tells Congress to let the courts, meaning SCOTUS, decide.

There's no way the AI bros would have found Blackburn's bill acceptable.

From July of last year:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/23/trump-derides-copyright-and-state-regs-in-ai-action-plan-launch-00472443

President Donald Trump criticized copyright enforcement efforts and state-level AI regulations Wednesday as he launched the White House’s AI Action Plan on a mission to dominate the industry.

In remarks delivered at a “Winning the AI Race” summit hosted by the All-In Podcast and the Hill and Valley Forum in Washington, Trump said stringent copyright enforcement was unrealistic for the AI industry and would kneecap U.S. companies trying to compete globally, particularly against China.

“You can’t be expected to have a successful AI program when every single article, book or anything else that you’ve read or studied, you’re supposed to pay for,” he said. “You just can’t do it because it’s not doable. ... China’s not doing it.”

Trump’s comments were a riff as his 28-page AI Action Plan did not wade into copyright and administration officials told reporters the issue should be left to the courts to decide.

-snip-

He doesn't want to come out officially, in writing, against copyright laws, because he saw what happened in the UK. Easier for him to say he's turning it over to the courts. But he wouldn't do so unless he was sure they'll favor AI companies.

[lame54]

7. Theives say theiving is ok

[highplainsdem]

11. Crooks of a feather... This is why the AI bros backed Trump.

[durablend]

9. Rapist mentality

"It's there, I take it"

[highplainsdem]

12. Exactly.