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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRemember when Trump pretended to be slightly nicked on the ear?
Many here (and elsewhere) recognized it as an obviously staged event to boost his campaign.
And some here dismissed that idea for... reasons, I guess?
Specifically, they doubted that even Trump would sacrifice someone's life for his own gain.
Well here we are. He's murdered a school full of children, he blew up dozens of Venezuelans on open water, summarily torpedoed Iranians in international waters, and now we find that he's killed multiple innocent people in Cuban hospitals by denying them access to life-saving power. And that's in addition to any deaths he's alleged to have ordered according to the Epstein files, and the uncounted deaths ongoing during his Iran fiasco.
At this point I think it's pretty clear that he's willing to murder to protect himself, so how can one imagine that anything is beyond him?
And look at that perfect, unscarred ear!
rampartd
(4,586 posts)i think they consciously message this kind of "left behind" bull shit for the benefit of his evangelicals. the troops have all been told that this is the battle of armageddon.
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
MyOwnPeace
(17,542 posts)claimed that he was 'protected and saved' by God.
My question has always been: Why was God pissed of at the fireman sitting behind him and let him die?
ninjanurse
(130 posts)Was his name, if anyone cares.
BidenRocks
(3,229 posts)The grave is empty and Corey is in witness protection!
Bettie
(19,655 posts)his version of god was a grown ass orange man in a diaper spewing hate.
popsdenver
(2,228 posts)"The Lord Works In Mysterious Ways".......................
Escape
(457 posts)the Easter Bunny.
bobalew
(431 posts)with 13 heads in plasticine for church, It was an art piece to behold!
Easterncedar
(6,196 posts)Stage an assassination attempt, unify your support during an election. Classic.
yellow dahlia
(5,784 posts)MadameButterfly
(4,033 posts)and the country isn't flipping out over this
Whip-poor-will
(203 posts)Is he a member of the screen ACTORS guild too ????
2naSalit
(102,512 posts)Scrivener7
(59,426 posts)themaguffin
(5,206 posts)Cheezoholic
(3,706 posts)ashredux
(2,927 posts)Two things, one if your ear is nicked, it does not heal back like nothing happened to it, there is always scarring and it doesnt grow back.
Next, if someone just shot you and nicked your ear, you wouldnt then stand up and give a fist bump to the crowd.
And lastly, the blood trail
. Thats not how reality looks, it was too clean down the side of the face, and actually a lot of blood. He had a fake blood capsule already behind the ear and just busted it when he put his hand up. Classic movie stuff.
Delmette2.0
(4,501 posts)The healing process is a bit longer also.
There would have been a scab for over a week and then a nice pink scar.
Beartracks
(14,568 posts)Conjuay
(3,057 posts)Ten years later their ears are still nicked.
3catwoman3
(29,340 posts)...down on the ground. There were surely enough of them to do so. I doubt TSF would be strong enough to overcome the efforts of 3-4 agents who are likely in very good shape.
mercuryblues
(16,386 posts)I am not sure it was staged. but it would not surprise me.
Let me just say this...the gun that was used, you don't "graze" an ear. There would be noticeable scarring.
Ms. Toad
(38,575 posts)Anyone looking at photos of his ear can see it, especially if you have seen scarring from cartilage damage up close - as I have.
And gun damage isn't binary (zero damage or total obliteration) There is always an area in which there is a gradation of damage between the zero damage and total obliteration. Not to mention that it is entirely conceivable that a chip from something hit directly which bounced up and hit his ear. Neither scenarios (both of which are far more likely than that a "near miss" was staged in a constantly moving scene) suggest that the threat was not real.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,469 posts)And I've seen it up close.
mercuryblues
(16,386 posts)hit by shrapnel. Bullets are very hot; they also leave gunshot residue behind.
Even Trump isn't dumb enough to go along with a fake assassination attempt. But this is Trump we are talking about.
He is narcissistic enough to take full advantage of it. At the expense of the guy who actually was shot and killed.
Dave says
(5,411 posts)But, then, I dont look at pics of the prez more than a second.
Trueblue Texan
(4,426 posts)The blood should have been splattered behind his ear. It's true he could have dragged the blood forward onto his cheek with his hand, but there should have been blood in his hair, behind his ear. I never saw any. Did anyone else? Also, was his hand bloody? I don't recall that.
Trueblue Texan
(4,426 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,575 posts)and watched how long it takes for blood to appear? It's not instantaneous. Wound to ear, huddled down with SS, at which time the blood starts to flow in the direction of gravity (i.e. down his cheek)
Ms. Toad
(38,575 posts)And do you seriously believe Trump would subject himself to the personal risk of a shot which misses his brain by millimeters for political gain?
Yes, he is a murderer, a liar, a coward, etc. And would do anything that does not require bravery to maintain control over the US. But connecting his character defects to an incident in which an innocent person lost his life and alleging it was just a stunt (which would require bravery far beyond anything this monster possesses) is a step too far.
Jedi Guy
(3,471 posts)I've noticed it's a role you frequently step into and you do so very well.
It's really sad to see this kind of kooky conspiracy nonsense taken seriously around here.
Ms. Toad
(38,575 posts)But it's better to speak up when we're engaging in conspiracy nonsense than to let it continue unchecked.
Orrex
(67,071 posts)Perhaps you'll next assure us that those pics of Trump with bikini-clad children are photoshopped, too.
Jedi Guy
(3,471 posts)Perhaps next you could kindly refrain from putting words in my mouth. I don't know where those words have been.
But that is a neat little rhetorical trick, though, I'll give you that. Suggesting that because I don't subscribe to kooky conspiracy nonsense about the assassination attempt I must therefore necessarily disbelieve the horrific allegations in the Epstein files, even though the two things have nothing whatsoever to do with one another.
Orrex
(67,071 posts)To date, that evidence has not been put forth.
I guess there's absolutely nothing extraordinary about claiming that a guy who's a known coward allowed someone to fire live ammunition at his head in public and, in the process, ended up killing an innocent bystander. There's absolutely nothing extraordinary about claiming that the individuals involved in this nefarious plot have all kept mum despite his previous and current administrations leaking like sieves and blabbing to the media constantly.
Yes, that all seems much more reasonable than a minor wound to the ear healing in a few days...
Orrex
(67,071 posts)Your assumption that "the individuals involved in this nefarious plot" would have spilled the beans is premature; strong, ongoing evidence exists that his regime is kept mum about the rape allegations against him, notwithstanding this and other administrations leaking like sieves.
As for your "known coward" comment:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221118598#post108
And that's on top of the fact that his blood sprayed in the wrong direction for a wound resulting from a bullet fired toward him from the front.
What follows here is indeed speculation: Trump may have been told that the shooter would use blanks, and that he was to slap a blood capsule to his ear when he heard the shots. I offer no evidence of this; it's admittedly pure speculation that incidentally is not inconsistent with observable events.
EdmondDantes_
(1,746 posts)The attempted assassination or as you want to believe, staged attempted assassination would be a plot the Trump campaign was involved with.
The other claims that he sexually assaulted children are from a time when there wasn't a campaign so the campaign staff wouldn't be aware because they weren't there. Unless you believe that the campaign staff was providing the kids which there's not even a claim of as far as I know.
Orrex
(67,071 posts)You insist that the two are dissimilar, but you are considering the wrong aspects of each.
The Trump/Epstein coverup is happening right now in real time; elements of Trump's DOJ (up to and including Bondi herself) have been shown to be actively covering for him, through questionable redactions, dubious omissions, directly contradictory claims, and straight up stonewalling.
It's not simply a matter of what Trump did years or decades ago; the literal conspiracy to protect him is going on before our eyes. How can it be that none of these people have blabbed, if in your view such leaks are inevitable and certain to be plentiful?
I make no claim about Trump's current staff providing children for him; that is an element of your incorrect focus.
Jedi Guy
(3,471 posts)Well, since they weren't present when it happened I think we can dismiss this question with prejudice.
Except that blood spatter analysis when practiced by supposed "professionals" is viewed as a pseudoscience at best and nonsense at worst. Thus I don't attach significant weight to your interpretation of this particular event.
Except no camera caught evidence of a blood capsule in his hand as far as I'm aware even though multiple cameras were focused on him. If he's a feeble old man who stumbles going up and down stairs that kind of legerdemain seems beyond him, wouldn't you think? And if Trump was in on the scam and was told they'd be using blanks, who's the shadowy mastermind who made the decision to switch to live ammo? Why did they do so?
And what of the shooter? An active shooter taking shots at the POTUS is not going to be given a "freeze, hands up!" He's just going to be ventilated. Even if he's shooting blanks, responding law enforcement or Secret Service aren't going to know that and will use lethal force. So the guy doing the shooting willingly gave up his life for this supposed staged assassination? Even allowing for the notion that Trump fans aren't entirely rational actors, that's pushing it.
Occam's Razor suggests that a legitimate assassination attempt is correct as it requires far fewer wild assumptions than a staged assassination attempt so that's where I've landed.
In any case, I think I'm about done pounding this topic into the digital dirt with you. It's very clear to me that you did not arrive at your position via reason and, therefore, reason will not move you from it and it would be a waste of my time to continue trying to persuade you.
Maru Kitteh
(31,730 posts)exercise the discipline and intelligence necessary to carry out such an elaborate plan and then keep it secret. They are not capable or competent persons.
Ritabert
(2,390 posts)His actions after the "attempt" show it was fake. Nobody stands up for a fist pump with an artfully arranged flag behind him for a memorial photo which appeared on merchandise within days. No real Secret Service agent would allow him to do it. Contrast that with the Reagan assassination attempt. The SS covered him with their bodies and whisked him into the limo immediately.
Ms. Toad
(38,575 posts)You really expect me to believe that Trump, a coward, would put himself in the line of real live bullets (which indisputably killed someone)?
His actions after the attempt show only how stupid he is, in focusing on a photo opportunity - rather than realizing his life was likely still in danger.
ProfessorGAC
(76,613 posts)In his case, the simplest explanation is the default position of him being an idiot.
In fact, even the fist bump was more likely one of his handlers telling him to do that without checking with Secret Service.
Stupid surrounding stupid.
There is a mountain of evidence that he is a dope. Not much reason to look deeper when stupid explains everything.
Ms. Toad
(38,575 posts)BidenRocks
(3,229 posts)Ritabert
(2,390 posts)The gun could have been left for him on the roof. Security obviously wasn't doing its job.
Ms. Toad
(38,575 posts)sarisataka
(22,648 posts)It seems to have been forgotten what actually happened that day. People died.
BidenRocks
(3,229 posts)Chump has done nothing to warrant any trust.
Just show us the bodies and a credible M.E. autopsy, if there is a body
I retired from the entertainment industry.
These were practical effects. Looks real.
I need proof! That's how much I distrust this country!
Suckers and losers, eh?
Ritabert
(2,390 posts)sarisataka
(22,648 posts)Who pretend to be dead? Fake families?
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,469 posts)A doctor's name? Drugs and treatment prescribed?
Anything??
BidenRocks
(3,229 posts)That was real fear!
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,469 posts)Ritabert
(2,390 posts)sarisataka
(22,648 posts)If they promise to only graze your ear?
Ritabert
(2,390 posts)EdmondDantes_
(1,746 posts)Or did everyone other than Trump know they were going to use real bullets? Or it's a conspiracy theory that relies on a lot of unfounded assumptions.
Ritabert
(2,390 posts)Somebody left the rifle for him on the roof and he shot in the direction of the victim. SS shot him dead.
EdmondDantes_
(1,746 posts)Trump voluntarily let someone shoot at him with real bullets or that the Trump team told the shooter and Trump it was going to be live bullets and Trump just went along after he was either nicked in the ear or hit by glass and never fired anybody? That's not a particularly logical theory from everything we know about that collection of nitwits.
generalbetrayus
(1,824 posts)My only countering idea is that maybe one or more of his campaign officials dreamed up the "assassination" attempt without telling the dotard. Like some of those clowns would really give a shit if the shooter misfired and took out the target instead of just clipping his external ear.
Ritabert
(2,390 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(16,204 posts)He's guilty of a lot of things but this isn't one of them. He wouldn't put himself on physical danger for any reason nevermind a publicly stunt. He's a coward.
Ritabert
(2,390 posts)JokeHer
(48 posts)And he knew that this why he was so brave to wave his fist and push off the secret service so he could get his photo op! That man is THE biggest coward, if anything about that shooting had been real, trump would have been throwing woman and children in front of himself!!!
Ms. Toad
(38,575 posts)of the shooting is in danger, including Trump.
Melon
(1,511 posts)Lets not pretend they were the crack outfit that the US employed for decades. Half of them honestly didnt look like the knew what to do. They let him put his shoe on as well. It was just a cluster.
Crunchy Frog
(28,261 posts)just don't know what to look for.
Ms. Toad
(38,575 posts)I just look at the images posted here claiming no scarring.
In general, look for an area on the ear that is whiter than the surrounding area. If you drew a rectangle around his right ear, the scarring is at the upper left corner of the triangle.
jmowreader
(53,162 posts)You remember that right after the shot rang out his Secret Service detail slammed him to the ground. I suspect what REALLY happened was he hit his ear on a corner of the podium base.
Ms. Toad
(38,575 posts)But the details as to how he was injured don't change the nature of the incident. Someone was shooting live bullets in his general direction.
My personal experience with cartilage injury - and how the scarring looks - was with my daughter swinging her ear into a sharp corner on the leg of a piano. She later pierced her cartilage - and I've often joked that if I'd known she would pierce her cartilage a couple of decades later I'd have had the doctor stitch it up around an earring.
But since the video shows him reaching up and grabbing his ear, I tend to think the injury occurred while bullets were flying.
SonOfNebanaube
(114 posts)purr-rat beauty
(1,226 posts)And even though I am not religious, he fits the image of the Anti_Christ to a Tee
Bettie
(19,655 posts)but I find it tremendously amusing that the "Christians" don't see that they wear his sign on their foreheads....and that he ticks literally every box in their anti-christ checklist.
I do lean toward it being staged and I have zero doubt that they would sacrifice one of his super fans for a photo-op.
Torchlight
(6,761 posts)I envy the discipline it would take, but relieved I lack the particular absence of character required for the Statlers and Waldorfs to illustrate such a devoted and consistent concern for his almost perfcet well-being. Washington's a big town. Internet's a big place.
Tree Lady
(13,262 posts)I totally think it was staged because no way would secret service ever let a president who has just been shot at get up and raise his arm like that. It's against every rule and for those that say Trump made them let him up, when it comes to being shot at secret service is suppose take over and keep him down.
EdmondDantes_
(1,746 posts)The same secret service that had to relieve 11 agents of their duties on a foreign trip with Obama because they were distracted by hiring prostitutes?
They aren't perfect. Usually still more than good enough, but not perfect.
Tree Lady
(13,262 posts)A shut down and reboot, everything is so messed up!
Melon
(1,511 posts)It was an incompetent cluster. He even put his shoe back on. I hope that entire team was fired for the good of our future presidents.
sarisataka
(22,648 posts)I can remember when DU prided itself on being fact based.
Jedi Guy
(3,471 posts)
LAS14
(15,505 posts)usaf-vet
(7,802 posts).... let him stand straight up with a raised fist. IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTION ABOUT A SECOND SHOOTER.
In my honest opinion, it was a totally staged event. What happened to the "shooter"?
Melon
(1,511 posts)KT2000
(22,136 posts)It was horrendous and people saw it as that. Now, killing of civilians is acceptable with an entire political party condoning it. Then, may worked hard to cover up the massacre but now it is how America fights its wars.
We are not all that anymore, just thugs and murderers.
2na fisherman
(319 posts)Trump once participated in a wrestling performance. Not so sure about a supposedly fake attempt but thousands of jihadist assassins will now be highly motivated to be martyred in service to the elimination of this leader of the Great Satan.
hamsterjill
(17,554 posts)The asshole is evil and knows no bounds. He'd sell one of his kids if he thought he could make a buck or look good doing it.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,469 posts)hamsterjill
(17,554 posts)Wouldn't doubt it for a second!
Crunchy Frog
(28,261 posts)Or maybe he was miraculously healed by Gawd.
Blue Owl
(59,006 posts)Blue Full Moon
(3,446 posts)I liked how they staged photo journalists just behind the stage so they could get that staged photo op.
Orrex
(67,071 posts)Of course, no pics were offered as evidence. Just a reference to "where to look" if one cares to do their work for them.
Sure. A decrepit almost-80-year-old would heal from a bullet wound with no stitches, no bruising, and (at most) dubious scarring in just three days.
It's clear that some are devoted to the official story.
Evolve Dammit
(21,761 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,784 posts)He is capable of anything. Sure - death is likely to reach a desired outcome. But he clearly gets a sadistic pleasure from the death and destruction of others. I can hear it in his voice as he recites the maiming and injuries and death of others.
Greybnk48
(10,718 posts)What a psychopathic scumbag.
MervinFerd
(2,110 posts)No one doubts Trump, or people around him, would kill.
But, unless you can come up with a remotely plausible "theory of the crime", you are making ridiculous, impossible claims.
ShazzieB
(22,555 posts)I can understand why people think it was, but I haven't looked into the evidence on either side closely enough to decide whether it was. However, I definitely believe him to to be capable of such a thing, as I believe him to be capable of doing just about anything to save his own sorry ass. He would throw absolutely anyone or anything under the bus to save himself, no question.
As I have said many times before, other humans beings are not real to him the way they are to the rest of us. Other people matter to him only insofar as they are useful to him, whether that be to carry out his orders, to perform tasks that he thinks are beneath him, to protect him (i.e., the Secret Service), to provide him with ego boosts and other types of gratification (emotional, sexual, etc.), to provide opportunities for him to increase his wealth, or whatever it is he requires from them. In other words, his valuation of any person is based on what he thinks they can do for him. As soon as someone stops providing what he wants or (God forbid) voices disagreement with or criticism of him, he is through with them, finished, done, kaput, and he will throw them under the nearest bus without a moment's thought.
Granted, some people seem to get away with more than others before being consigned to the trash heap by Trump, but I don't think anyone is invulnerable. Some are more skilled than others at figuring how out to stay in his good graces, but I'm sure the smarter ones know that they too could fall out of favor at any time and do their best to avoid crossing any line that would cause that to happen, wherever that line may be.
tritsofme
(19,885 posts)You better watch out, sounds like you stumbled onto something super duper serious!
Martin Eden
(15,579 posts)According to AI, a bullet at that speed creates a mini shockwave that would damage hearing if passing within 1.2 meters of a human ear.
If it actually passed within an inch, Trump would certainly have permanent hearing damage in that ear, possibly total loss.
To sustain a slight nick in that ear without severe hearing loss, it would have to be a fragment of a bullet after hitting something else first.
Where is the forensics report that identifies the path of each bullet; objects (including people) that were struck; and the condition of the bullets that were recovered?
sarisataka
(22,648 posts)But I can tell you from experience a single bullet passing close to your ear (much less than 1.2m) will not cause permanent severe hearing loss.
Martin Eden
(15,579 posts)Or not been precise enough with my question. Perhaps the hearing loss pertains only to proximity to the muzzle exit.
I asked the question because it seemed to me a supersonic bullet passing close enough to nick an ear would have some kind of concussive wave.
sarisataka
(22,648 posts)A bullet passing at supersonic speed will have a 'crack', the shockwave of travelling faster than sound. A 5.56mm bullet makes a sound about the same as a firecracker when it passes you.
ProfessorGAC
(76,613 posts)So, it may not have required misinterpretation.
But, a physics element to the shockwave you mentioned (which is accurate) is the mass of the object and the density, therefore the volume of air being displaced.
A .30 caliber bullet is only displacing under 1.2 cc of air per centimeter of travel, so over the last 30cm, about 36cc.
Since that is expanding torroidally the pressure drops exponentially. And, only a tiny fraction would enter the ear canal.
So, I'm not convinced enough pressure would be exerted, no matter the velocity, to cause permanent hearing loss.
Besides, even if I'm wrong, how do we know he didn't have gearing damage? I think that hardly a thing they would advertise.
ffr
(23,393 posts)What a fucking joke. The media of 50 years ago would have nailed his ass to the wall, but not the corporate media.
Orrex
(67,071 posts)Javaman
(65,668 posts)he would never murder anyone...he always gets someone else to do it.
because at the very center of who he is (he has no heart) he's a coward.
generalbetrayus
(1,824 posts)n his lower ear lobe. Cartilage does not regenerate, but the skin covering it should. I'm not convinced, however. that these images show damage to the cartilage. Lighting could be an issue.

tazcat
(288 posts)BigmanPigman
(55,096 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,469 posts)
This is a photo of Mackenzie Astin. He lost the tip of his right ear in a car accident when he was 22 or 23.
It's actually GONE. But a bullet tapped Piggy so very gently it healed completely, with no scar whatsoever! And never even grazed his giant bloated pumpkin headed scalp!
BUT...maybe he is the Chosen One and his demon god healed him with a Stayfree maxipad. Maybe!
some_of_us_are_sane
(3,138 posts)(Maybe in history books 40 or 50 years from now, they will release the truth ....if we're still around with that maniac threatening to have the human race gone just because HE'S reaching the end of his grifting sleazy life.)
NoMoreRepugs
(12,041 posts)Blue Owl
(59,006 posts)Norrrm
(4,942 posts)Cirsium
(3,908 posts)The states control elections, Trump can't do anything about that! And besides, the courts will rein him in. He won't be able to set up concentration camps or just arbitrarily deport people. There'll be lawsuits involved, and Merrick Garland is working from the bottom up. You have to understand how these systems work. These things take time. You can't get everything you want instantly just because you stomp your feet. The Constitution defines treason in a very specific way. You shouldn't just throw that word around because you don't like Trump. The pendulum is swinging, and the white suburban soccer moms are swinging, as well, and this is a center-right country, so you need to start facing that reality. Not everything on your personal wish list is practical. Don't go off the deep end with these conspiracy theories. We are taking baby steps and we're walking and we're chewing gum and we're doing all of that at the same time. The important thing is that you make sure that your personal vote counts, whatever hoops you have to jump through or whatever the expense is, because after all, it's all about you and your self-expression. Leopards will be eating faces and it will be FAFO time for people who don't follow my advice. It'll be on them and I have no sympathy.
Escape
(457 posts)was Trump's immediate behavior. Under the circumstances of a real attempt, Trump would have crawled, cried and shit his pants and his security team would have pounced on him and created a human shield over him until he was protected from any form of threat.
The possibility that Donald Trump took a bullet and then stood up bravely and yelled "Fight! Fight! Fight!" is about the same as if he had run into a house on fire and saved a baby.
We will never know what happened that day, but I am quite confident that a bullet did not touch Trump's ear. I suppose it's possible that some other object, like shrapnel or something, could have. Doubtful, but possible.
We now live with an alternate conspiracy driven media and with a government that manufactures conspiracies daily.
There is no shame in questioning anything and everything we are told.
Takket
(23,698 posts)I mean, there was a bullet, and the firefighter got hit and killed by it.
So was the plan live ammo, the sniper (who BTW must have agreed to die to bring this staging to fruition) is ordered to take a shot somewhere near drumpf, but be careful not to hit him. and drumpf, when he hears the pop, grabs hit ear and releases the "blood pack" or whatever it is they use from Hollywood?
LAS14
(15,505 posts)Orrex
(67,071 posts)Once these are answered, the speculation can end.
And, frankly, the only refutations offered on DU--even in this thread--amount to a chorus of sanctimonious clucking of tongues and finger-wagging.
Some, it's clear, will always tend to cherish The Official Story, whatever The Official Story might be.
If you find the discussion contrary to DU's TOS, I encourage you to alert on it.
krawhitham
(5,072 posts)jfz9580m
(17,148 posts)I always knew Si Valley is right wing plus this spurious type of liberalism with no concern for the environment or economic equality, regulatory oversight, but thin vaguely socially liberal platitudes alone. So it is better they are honest about being ecocidal and on a long enough timeline genocidal if you have no bunker access. They should brutally honest about what they are so their descendants can after coming out of radiation sheltering bunkers try to figure out how to paint the rest of us who woll be long dead and without any descendants as the real problem.
The war Si Valley was actually secretly on the right side of all along! They are the real anti-fascists! Not you you rube!
Hello trashy Willow chip, how may I calculate the correct level of reputation management hustle that does not affect war profiteering nor commodifying other humans lives for health entertainment etc. My or rather I shoukd say our collective choices after rubbishy Willow chip simulations I run inside my fathead will be distributed in a way predicted by the Central Limit Theorem, with the mean group decisions always unselfishly and cooperatively supporting more profits for Si Valley creeps at huge personal and professional costs to the planet/everyone else because that is universal! That is evolution!
Like the exxon scientists who warned the public about climate change and were ignored, the people trying to alert the public to these nuisances with real science or info..Today it is hard to see how that will be allowed where real. I can see the real safety issues. I find it hard to believe anything will be done about them by that crowd..
Otoh it is not any less real -the actually real science though it must be way more complex than even than climate change..it is easier to imagine finally as these lousy ubiquitous trash technologies hog more space unsolicited.
I dont know..one feels hagridden and too lobotomized sometimes..oh well..
usonian
(25,082 posts)Oops. This is getting to be like a bad habit.
WAPO
https://archive.is/yjEBD
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/03/21/hungary-election-interference-russia-orban/
Officers from the intelligence service, or SVR, suggested that drastic action might be necessary a strategy they called the Gamechanger. In an internal report for the SVR obtained and authenticated by a European intelligence service and reviewed by The Washington Post, the operatives proposed a way to fundamentally alter the entire paradigm of the election campaign the staging of an assassination attempt on Viktor Orban.
Such an incident will shift the perception of the campaign out of the rational realm of socioeconomic questions into an emotional one, where the key themes will become state security and the stability and defense of the political system, the operatives wrote in a report prepared for the SVRs main unit for political influence operations, Directorate MS, or Active Measures Department.
Snip
The July 2024 campaign-trail attack in which Donald Trump was grazed by a would-be assassins bullet resulted in iconic photos of him, praise for his resilience, and a quick bump in his poll numbers, especially among core supporters.