The tide is changing--I live in a county that went 60% for Trump and they are angry!

[crimycarny]

I live in a VERY red Trumpian county. Nextdoor was a barometer of just how fanatic the support has remained. When the ICE brutality was at its peak in Minnesota, these people were rabid in their glee. “Yeah!! Way to go Trump!!!” was 95% of the commentary.

What a difference a war in Iran and high gas prices make. Wow! I have never seen so many negative comments about what Trump is doing, and voices that still try to defend are few (maybe 10%) and half-hearted versus full throated. HUGE shift which I honestly didn’t think possible. I am genuinely surprised.

Lots of Trumpers in their huge trucks in my neck of the woods, the gas prices must be hitting them hard. Sucks that it’s only when something affects Trumpers personally that they care, but the right has always been that way so no surprise.

[Roc2020]

1. I don't think that

means they will vote dems in November. But some may but most I think just won't vote. I really think he has let down his base

[crimycarny]

4. Yep, my expectation is many won't vote.

I’m not naive enough to think MAGA would vote Dem, but I do believe they see that MAGA as a movement is crumbling apart.

So many of the MAGA were people who didn’t really participate in politics until Trump came along and they responded to his message of “hey, you’re not a loser because of anything you did—it’s those brown people, and “the libs””. These people suddenly felt they were part of something, they were “superior”, they were cool. So they went out to vote, something that block didn’t always do. Easier to bitch from your living room than get up and vote.

But the party’s over, it’s not fun anymore, so they’ll go back to old “why bother to vote”.

[Dan]

2. Nah, he hasn't hurt his base enough.

Break their financial ass.

[crimycarny]

7. Many will just not vote

It’s not fun anymore. MAGA doesn’t have the same large scale enthusiasm, it’s crumbling. They loved the rallies, the “owning the libs”, the ability to be racist and have that be admired (by their peers). That’s all fading away. Now they are dealing with the hangover.

[RockRaven]

3. From what I've seen, they will cry "We were fooled! We were lied to! He failed us!"

and then follow it with "but Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris was much worse" and vote for anyone and everyone with an R next to their name in the next election.

They never admit their values or policy positions were wrong. They lay the error at the feet of the politician they voted for, not themselves for choosing thusly. It is always an external one-off failure, never an internal systematic one.

[crimycarny]

9. I think a lot won't vote

Those who weren’t interested in politics before Trump came along will go back to not being interested. No one is going to take the place of Trump for them, so I expect many will slither back to their holes.

[BaronChocula]

13. So... do you think some just may not vote?

One of my pet peeves is having to repeat myself. Another is not understanding that voting patterns aren't binary. There's party-line voting, split-ticket voting, and not voting. And then of course, just because something doesn't change the minds of a cult doesn't mean Democrats can't ever win anything again. Those wishy-washy independent/swing voters are in the balance. But clearly you already know this. I'm just venting.

But it's always good to hear about the cult not happy with the cult.

[CanonRay]

5. Republicans in general don't give a shit about anyone

or anything until it affects them personally. Plus they don't learn from it.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

6. "it's only when something affects Trumpers personally that they care"

Yes

[hamsterjill]

12. Exactly.

That tells you what kind of people they are, too, doesn't it? We need to always remember that. It's okay to smile and be cordial and act civil to these idiots, but NEVER EVER forget who and what they are.

[SheltieLover]

8. Someone needs to connect the dots to complicit puke congress allowing this

Trust me that not only are they incapable of doing so, it is likely their education didn't provide much in the way of accurate civics.

Example: gs in hs in TN debated govt teacher who insisted NATO is North American Treaty Org. Extrapolate the implications. His entire hs ed here was that way. Barf

[Hieronymus Phact]

10. None of this will stop them from pulling the lever for Desantis -nt

[thomski64]

11. The F-150/ Silverado/ Ram Pickup truck demographics

will pay a lot more to drive around than I will.
Schadenfreude can be sweet
FUCK TRUMP AND EACH AND EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR HIM
thanks for your attention to this matter.

[BaronChocula]

14. I've noticed Dodge Ram trying to get in on the dumb-wagon

Their latest pickup ad campaign has a lot of loud guitar and trucks wasting gas doing donuts in the mud with a lot of imagery appealing to the crowd that feels entitled to bad judgment. It's the most blatant targeting I've seen in a pickup ad yet and it's pretty sad.

[Randomthought]

15. Whiny asses

Not one care for human rights, not one care for people with no health care, not one care for homeless or hungry. Fuck their Whiny asses for only caring about how much it costs t9 fill the tank of their gas guzzling monster trucks.
They will still vote a straight party ticket for the Republicans without a clue that they are voting for their own self destruction.

[Old Crank]

16. If they sit out the election

That is good also. It is only a one vote per voter swing instead of two but it is better than them just voting GOP blindly.