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milestogo

(23,059 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:32 PM 10 hrs ago

Christopher Columbus accidentally ran into the Bahama Islands.

He was looking for GOLD. The islands were inhabited by native people... Columbus and his successors pretty much killed or enslaved all of them.

He was a pretty good sailor for his day- but he didn't know where he was when he found land. He was greedy and his actions were barbaric.

He wasn't the first one to cross the ocean. Leif Ericsen did that centuries earlier. The Vikings didn't stay- they knew they were outnumbered by the native peoples.

I learned the sanitized story in first grade. I unlearned it by the time I finished high school.

I don't understand WHY we still celebrate "Columbus Day" or why the asshole wants a statue of this guy at the White House. The legacy of Columbus is GENOCIDE.

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Christopher Columbus accidentally ran into the Bahama Islands. (Original Post) milestogo 10 hrs ago OP
Trump wants the world to be what he remembers Klarkashton 10 hrs ago #1
Colimbus doesn't even hsve the excuse of wnylib 10 hrs ago #2
The only knowledge that TSF has of American history milestogo 10 hrs ago #3
Krasnov would have been about 14 years old in 1960... LakeVermilion 10 hrs ago #4
I've pretty much despised that piece-of-human-garbage for many years. chouchou 10 hrs ago #5
;-{) Woops! Goonch 8 hrs ago #6
why the asshole wants a statue of this guy Intractable 8 hrs ago #7
When the first American settlers came, they weren't too nice MineralMan 8 hrs ago #8

Klarkashton

(5,278 posts)
1. Trump wants the world to be what he remembers
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:41 PM
10 hrs ago

1960 was like as a rich spoiled ignorant asshole adolescent.
Back then there was no Howard Zinn books are much of anything else but post war jingoism.

wnylib

(25,902 posts)
2. Colimbus doesn't even hsve the excuse of
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:45 PM
10 hrs ago

"Well, he lived in harsher times than today." Priests who accompanied the Spanish wrote about his cruelty and one of them made a formal complaint to the Crown.

It's easy to see why President Pedo wants a statue of him in the WH. Columbus is his kind of guy, someone to admire and emulate.

milestogo

(23,059 posts)
3. The only knowledge that TSF has of American history
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:47 PM
10 hrs ago

seems to be what they taught in the late fifties/early sixties. I think that is the case for a lot of Republicans. Its embarrassing. And its dangerous.

LakeVermilion

(1,575 posts)
4. Krasnov would have been about 14 years old in 1960...
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:56 PM
10 hrs ago

Once he reached puberty, he knew all he would need to know.

chouchou

(3,126 posts)
5. I've pretty much despised that piece-of-human-garbage for many years.
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 12:56 PM
10 hrs ago

2 for 0ne, Columbus and Trump.

Intractable

(2,039 posts)
7. why the asshole wants a statue of this guy
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:21 PM
8 hrs ago

To piss off liberals? It is a common motive of his.

We hate what Columbus represents -- murder, slavery, imperialism, etc.

MineralMan

(151,187 posts)
8. When the first American settlers came, they weren't too nice
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 02:42 PM
8 hrs ago

to the indigenous people, either. And it didn't get better. In the end, we almost eliminated them all.

We can curse at Columbus and at the Spanish explorers, but the folks that showed up here from England were equally at fault.

We have not behaved well with regard to the people who were already here. Nope. Not at all. We were the conquerors, not the discoverers.

And that brutality continued right into the 19th century.

I'm sorry, but the myth of how America was settled has always been wrong. We displaced or killed all the people who had lived here before we came. Not a nice picture at all. And then, we made things worse by importing slave labor to boot. There is much to be ashamed of.

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