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EnergizedLib

(3,022 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 08:35 AM 7 hrs ago

My (sad) outlook on America, its values and now

Yes, I admit it. I underestimated the felon in 2016, laughed at the announcement about him running and didn’t think it would actually happen once, let alone a second time. I correctly predicted between trump and Hillary whoever got in would lose in 2020. As a Bernie supporter, I wasn’t crazy about Hillary, but I still voted for her.

What I wasn’t expecting was 2024. I gave the electorate too much credit over trump, hence my underestimation.

We all know the rap sheet about the greatest con artist of all time, a mile long by now. People decided COVID, J6, Dobbs, all the felonies weren’t dealbreakers. In fact, they felt more compelled to vote for the felon that people tried to actually hold someone rich and powerful accountable for a change. You know, like other civilized countries actually do (South Korea, UK, Brazil, etc.).

And more and more people are waking up to what we’ve spent years screaming from the rooftops. They thought it would be fun to own the libs, and here they are, they’ve owned themselves. People don’t care about underage victims of sexual abuse, but those gas prices sure are getting their attention. Inconvenience a partly uninformed electorate in the slightest way and they’ll have your head, regardless of all of your transgressions. Don’t we have such wonderful values in this country? Our side might win in a bloodbath this year and two years from now. We might even exceed our performances from 2006 and 2008.

Even so, what I nevertheless find unsettling are the how and the why - not because US soldiers and Iranian schoolgirls got killed, not because all of the damage done to this country, not because of the immunity, not because of a corrupt rogue police state, but because they’re feeling some of the pain. What wonderful values we have.

And then there’s the cult. I would snap my fingers to vanish them from the planet in a heartbeat if I could. Yet, as loathsome as they are, as despicable as they are, I can’t help but find out how pathetic and pitiful they are. There was a time they at least pretended to have some principles - no war, holding child sex abusers accountable, freedom, prices, the debt, etc. Now, I see these loons willing to spend however much money to run up our debt without a care in the world, still supporting their false idol even if he did rape children, being in favor of bombing Iran and not caring about dead American soldiers or dead Iranian schoolgirls all while their cult leader disrespects our servicemen and women by saluting them while wearing his own campaign gear. They’re willing to pay more in gas over this (which tells me 2021-2025 wasn’t really about gas prices, was it?) Then they’ll point to how it was worse under President Biden, when they won’t look at the whys - why gas went up in 2021 and 2022 compared to why gas is up now.

MAGA isn’t about supporting someone who champions their values, they’re a cult around one creature and will gladly change their own values to justify their support.

We might win, we might win big. We could take both houses of Congress this year and run away with the presidency in 2028. What will change? What will actually change? And even if we exceeded our performances from 2006 and 2008, it’ll still be unsettling as to why voters voted to give us power again - to help *them* and so many being callous enough not to care for anybody else or any other injustices perpetrated by the most sociopathic White House in history.

There’s something in the water here, and not in a good way.

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My (sad) outlook on America, its values and now (Original Post) EnergizedLib 7 hrs ago OP
Nice post but gab13by13 6 hrs ago #1
I mean, I saw it coming back in 2015 EnergizedLib 6 hrs ago #2
I agree completely. Passages 6 hrs ago #4
I'm not sure what Constitutional Amendment would be approved today EnergizedLib 6 hrs ago #6
The struggle will be huge. Passages 6 hrs ago #9
I don't know EnergizedLib 5 hrs ago #12
Propaganda Johnny2X2X 6 hrs ago #3
I saw someone comment EnergizedLib 6 hrs ago #5
Here in MI Johnny2X2X 6 hrs ago #7
Just like with the SAVE MAGA Act EnergizedLib 6 hrs ago #8
Yes, the boogie man factor. Passages 5 hrs ago #10
The swimmer Johnny2X2X 5 hrs ago #11
New slogan misanthrope 5 hrs ago #13
I love the screen name juxtaposed against the relentlessly downbeat OP. BannonsLiver 5 hrs ago #14
I joined in 2022 after Dobbs EnergizedLib 4 hrs ago #15

gab13by13

(32,263 posts)
1. Nice post but
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 08:48 AM
6 hrs ago

you need to add another group that is a cult, that will cater to and fluff such a horrible person as Donald J. Trump - the billionaires.

The billionaires who funded him, the billionaires who bought up the MSM and converted it into a propaganda machine.

The members of the Supreme Court who violated their oath and put a vile creature above the law.

Even if we take over Congress and hold investigations and indict people, Krasnov will just pardon them, The use of the pardon needs to be reformed before anyone can be held accountable.

EnergizedLib

(3,022 posts)
2. I mean, I saw it coming back in 2015
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 08:52 AM
6 hrs ago

Billionaires, especially Republican billionaires, will seek only to protect themselves and the other members of the billionaire class without a thought to the average person.

And too many of the average folk were all too happy to vote for this until it came back to bite them.

Passages

(4,134 posts)
4. I agree completely.
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 08:57 AM
6 hrs ago

It is overwhelming to me how much needs to be changed, not merely a new Congress, Senate, etc.

The executive branch is completely out of control with power and a corrupted SCOTUS....think Citizens United and more.

It will take a great deal of consistent work to reform the system and add new safeguards.

For one, the fact that a convicted felon can be president of this country is an absurd reality, and must not be allowed again.




EnergizedLib

(3,022 posts)
6. I'm not sure what Constitutional Amendment would be approved today
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 09:01 AM
6 hrs ago

That’s what’s sad. Everything has been corrupted.

Passages

(4,134 posts)
9. The struggle will be huge.
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 09:37 AM
6 hrs ago

Yet, we must proceed with an agenda that is lawful and in the best interests of a functioning democracy.

I believe the American public is hungry for it, most especially our youth.

EnergizedLib

(3,022 posts)
12. I don't know
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 10:01 AM
5 hrs ago

It seems like Nick Fuentes is building a following and a lot of youngsters are acting like him.

Johnny2X2X

(24,183 posts)
3. Propaganda
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 08:54 AM
6 hrs ago

The thing about propaganda is that it works on smart and dumb people alike. The Right absolutely has control of vast parts of the media including a lockdown on social media. Watching it all go to work in 2024 was simply terrifying. Seeing how it is still excusing the absolute nightmare we are seeing now in this country is even more terror.

It's overriding of self preservation, people are programmed to set aside their own interests because propaganda told them some wedge issue really matters. It's created millions of self immolating cynics who cannot see basic truths anymore. "Sure, I lost my health care, my job, and my house, but we got those couple dozen trans athletes out of girl's sports..."

EnergizedLib

(3,022 posts)
5. I saw someone comment
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 08:59 AM
6 hrs ago

That the trans issue is a bigger issue than the economy, which is ridiculous.

And I want to ask every MAGAt out there how many of them actually care about women’s sports and girls sports and how many of them just want to punish those who are different. Elon has turned Twitter into a massively toxic cesspool and the right is taking over more and more of the media.

Personally, on the trans playing sports issue, I think it’s something athletic governing bodies/schools should decide, not something state or federal government bodies should get into. I’d like to see more unisex bathrooms built as a compromise on the issue. Trans people dared to exist, which was too much for bigots who are now paying the price for their shortsightedness.

Johnny2X2X

(24,183 posts)
7. Here in MI
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 09:11 AM
6 hrs ago

A local sports talk radio show had the director of the Michigan High Scholl Athletics Association on the air for an interview. The host is a known Right Wing turd so of course he brought the issue up and it was hilarious the response. Paraphrasing, "Well, it's not an issue, this year there are no trans athletes competing in the MHSAA in any sport, last year there was 1, the year before there were 2, and those athletes competed without issue." They're taking a few instances of trans women competing in women's sports over the last couple decades that people think seemed unfair and making it into the biggest issue. it's insane. there have been like 5 cases that people can even point to in this country over the last decade, 5! The vast majority of cases have been without any issue whatsoever. They want to burn the country down for like 1 person competing every few years that doesn't seem fair.

EnergizedLib

(3,022 posts)
8. Just like with the SAVE MAGA Act
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 09:17 AM
6 hrs ago

They want to violate the Constitution, to heck with the 24th Amendment, suppress the vote, over voter fraud, even though fraud is seldom proven to have happened - and when it *is* proven, guess who is guilty? MAGAts!

Like I said, let the MHSAA, let the other state athletic governing bodies, let the schools deal with this issue, keep government at all levels away from this.

I would ask, how has sticking it to trans people you don’t know even exist helped your life? Exactly.

Passages

(4,134 posts)
10. Yes, the boogie man factor.
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 09:39 AM
5 hrs ago

Look over there>>>>> while gangsters like Trump loot the treasury.

Johnny2X2X

(24,183 posts)
11. The swimmer
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 09:48 AM
5 hrs ago

Yeah, and the swimmer they talk about non stop who competed in D1 college swimming, was like 5 years ago now. They're acting like it's some imminent thing, it's already in the past, no matter what you think about Lia Thomas, get over it.

EnergizedLib

(3,022 posts)
15. I joined in 2022 after Dobbs
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 11:06 AM
4 hrs ago

Back when I actually believed in a better America instead of Americans just showing who the truly are.

We’ll get change in this country alright, just not the kind of change I would want.

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