"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism

[Swede]

"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy." - David Frum.

This from the guy that wrote speeches for Bush.

[gab13by13]

1. I wish that people would stop calling them "conservatives."

They are anything but

[raging moderate]

3. We used to call such ultra-right-wing people "reactionaries."

True conservatives did not like such people. Dwight Eisenhower rejected them and said he was certain they would never gain much power in the United States.

[Vogon_Glory]

13. I've started calling them that.

When I use the term “conservative”, I use quotation marks or the term “so-called conservative.”

[yellow dahlia]

4. Indeed

[GreenWave]

8. They cannot even tolerate conservation.

[CaptainTruth]

12. The traditional Conservative movement (GOP) has been taken over by the Radical Right.

I've been differentiating between Conservative & Radical Right for years now because you're absolutely right, they're not at all the same.

[Spazito]

2. If rejecting democracy means...

not voting then I am all for it.

I'm no fan of Frum, loved his mom, but he does know how cons think on both sides of the border.

[Exp]

5. This is ALREADY happening! They KNOW that their policies are NOT popular. nt

[OnionPatch]

7. Yep.

I’m hearing little hints of this while talking to some of my conservative relatives. They say things like “not everyone should be able to vote.”

[Nasruddin]

10. 2024 election

Makes me wonder about this too.
Not that Brexit and the CA referendum system hasn't also done this.

[BurnDoubt]

6. Never doubted for a Second.

[MW67]

9. Translation

Once a fascist, always a fascist

[Martin Eden]

11. American "conservatism" has become fascism.

They abandoned the party of Eisenhower a long time ago.