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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCould we be kind to Noem's husband?
This is not about politics. Kristi is fair game as she is a politician. Her husband is not. This man is being publicly humiliated because of his private behavior - not political behavior. This is not the age of the Scarlet Letter. Let's let him be. So many in the country are enjoying his pain right now and we are not sure if it may have dire consequences for this man.
He'll have to suck it up.
If he is tough enough to be married to that piece of trash he's tough enough to take a doxing.
AncientOfDays
(264 posts)She had to know about her husband's proclivities, and still signed on to an administration that politicizes against that sort of behavior. In fact, she may have literally bought herself a place in that administration. I say she's fair game.
Intractable
(2,101 posts)I'm sure he has benefited much from Kristi's political positions.
He put himself on internet chats showing the boobs. He forfeited his privacy at that moment.
Shellback Squid
(10,078 posts)J_William_Ryan
(3,496 posts)Actually it is.
Its the hateful, bigoted, authoritarian right thats hostile to expressions of individual liberty, seeking to compel conformity and punish dissent by opposing the right to self-determination.
Liberals have no problem with men dressing like women and defend the individual right to do so.
In a society that celebrates diversity and inclusion a society opposed by conservatives this wouldnt be an issue.
Noem and others on the fascist right have only themselves to blame.
KT2000
(22,150 posts)We are better than that.
NJCher
(43,161 posts)of whom you speak?
This person did what he did publicly. Not only that, but he even made references to his notorious wife. That alone is a judgment error that makes him deserving of nothing but scorn.
I'm not up for being "kind" to another moronic republican, especially one who puts balloons in his T-shirt and puckers up for the camera.
I'll save my kindness for a more deserving person or animal.
Scrivener7
(59,519 posts)manipulating us to take attention from things that actually matter.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221138717
So I'm with you. We should drop this and not play into his hands.
H2O Man
(79,048 posts)The point is about who we are.
H2O Man
(79,048 posts)Some find the situation as a source of humor, just like some laugh at Druski. Others don't. That tends to happen when it comes to groups of individuals. It's who we are.
I think you likely know he isn't a DU community member.
C Moon
(13,642 posts)LeftInTX
(34,286 posts)Kristi Noem deserves this.
No one will remember him, but they will remember her. This is her downfall.....
She's destroyed so many lives....
I bet he's also into BDSM and other things and only acceptable images were released.
pat_k
(13,371 posts)And I don't imagine there are many people on DU that have a problem with cross-dressing.
Who is being "mean" to Byron anyway?
His cross-dressing is only "inappropriate" to the vile people with their fixed notion of "appropriate" gender roles who are hellbent on dictating what is "appropriate" or "inappropriate" to every other human on the planet.
Yeah, Kristi Noem is one of those vile people.
And apparently Byron pretended to be one of those vile people too.
It's the pretense that's the problem. For his sake, I hope he sheds that persona.
If he does, I imagine the cross-dressing community would welcome the guy.
B.See
(8,494 posts)From the few comments I read, seemed the ridicule wasn't for him (you do you, as long as you do no harm), but for Noem's and the right's hypocritical ideology of hate and exclusion that deigns to determine for all, what gender people must be, what constitutes a family, a marriage, what people shouldn't read or learn, who is acceptable and who is not. Quite a comeuppance, I think... for HER.
RockRaven
(19,365 posts)They married in 1992. She's been in political office since 2007. South Dakota is a no fault divorce state, with a 60 day period between filing and finalization. Either one of them could have split with the other at any time. They didn't. And since they are married, she is involved with him, and he reflects on her. That's just how free association and partnerships work.
We can, and should, avoid kink-shaming.
We can, and should, respect the sex workers he was interacting with as workers.
But the hypocrisy, the security risk (creating blackmail fodder because of the hypocrisy and secrecy), and their vile political positions mean that we do not have to be kind to them. Fuck them.
As for him being humiliated by this: a) some people are into that, but if he isn't then fine, moving on, and b) if he is ashamed of what he gets up to during his sexy time with other consenting adults, that is a him problem not an us problem, we aren't responsible for his hang-ups.
poli-junkie
(1,567 posts)hypocrisy that were all condemning especially from this christofascist regime!
Theyre all repressed, mentally ill mfers!
Cant stand them
Phoenix61
(18,828 posts)I do care that he aligned himself with someone who spews hate. Maybe he should have thought about that a little harder.
JHB
(38,211 posts)I appreciate your appeal to better angels, but they're not here right now, the worse demons are, so the right course of action is to curbstomp them at every opportunity.
JMCKUSICK
(6,044 posts)This sounds like a hatchet job on Noem. Done solely to hurt her, especially with the lewendowski rumors.
Using another person's hidden secrets to bring pain to her is out of bounds for me too.
I don't know who this man is, the fact that she's been openly treating him like a cuck with her affair and the unnecessary details of private bedrooms in jets etc...makes this even more painful to imagine.
I only wish there would be a way to force her to explain her hypocrisy and shame her.
Billsdaughter
(149 posts)more free to be than he did yesterday.
As for her, this "scandal" is the least of her problems. And yes, the scheuden freude is delicious.
Pototan
(3,129 posts)Fuck Byron. Let him face his humiliation for marrying an evil person. After all, he is not humiliated in my eyes, only in the eyes of the people he voted for and associates with.
Who do you think he voted for? The same people who publicly humiliate and torture perfectly innocent people in America. Again, I say, fuck him.
Skittles
(171,704 posts)I don't think he is anywhere near as freaky as Kristi or Donald
rampartd
(4,628 posts)but if the only choices are "freaky" and "not freaky" there but for the grace of god go i.
sarah longwell said "noem wasn't protecting her own homeland" but
gov noem seems to like "dressing up" as fetish. maybe how she and husband made 30 years?
Skittles
(171,704 posts)it ain't an us vs them thing for sure
rampartd
(4,628 posts)that is when i began to think that i am in no position to judge how far out on the kinkometer each of us might fall.
we are all bozos on this bus.
Skittles
(171,704 posts)yes indeed
meadowlander
(5,133 posts)because what that person is saying to anyone else in the world that is into bimbo-ization as a kink is that they're freaks too, and by extension lesser humans.
I don't care what Bryon wants to do in his free time that doesn't hurt anyone else. He's fair game to the extent that he was a hypocrite and apparently on board with persecuting trans people with his vile wife. But he isn't a "freak" because he has a fetish and neither is anyone else who does (at least 50% of the population).
I guess my other general suggestion would be that kindness is free and about the sort of person you want to be, not the target of scorn (and other people like him). Maybe think about how you'd feel if you found out tomorrow he killed himself over this and then have a second think about any comment you might feel doesn't represent your best self.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)I truly don't give an f about him.
I don't give an f about her either but I will say that I had a good chuckle when I heard the news tonight. It's not like she cares anyway. She's having an affair herself. Smh.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)Raine
(31,177 posts)I wonder what his thought was about the dog she murdered, did he care about that.
rampartd
(4,628 posts)what might happen to him if he didn't wear the panties.
gov noem seems to like "dressing up" as fetish. maybe how she and husband made 30 years?
Lars39
(26,540 posts)would have a specific target on International Trans Visibility Day. Whoever did this wanted him to be the topic of the day, and they succeeded.
SunSeeker
(58,278 posts)Like so many closeted evangelicals who shame gay and trans people, this guy was aligned with a bigoted cabinet member who serves in an administration that has done everything it can to hurt men who don't dress like society expects men to dress.
They are both hypocrites and right wing nut jobs.

The above picture is from this NY Post story: https://nypost.com/2026/03/31/us-news/kristi-noem-weighs-in-on-report-husband-bryon-lives-cross-dressing-double-life/
sfdennis1
(53 posts)Id bet my last dollar that the cross-dressing cuck voted for Trump I have NO moral judgement on his bimbo cross dressing fetish, but to support MAGA while being a closeted freaky-deaky person??? Thats just your own karma literally BEGGING to be revealed. Total FAFO situation and I have ZERO sympathy left for ANY of them.
Mister Ed
(6,927 posts)Roy Rolling
(7,632 posts)To answer your question, of course I can be kind.
This isnt on me and my views on his cross-dressing (which I didnt know until this article).
I dont think editorial censorship is the solution here (to the problem that Noem is unfairly portrayed in mass media). Manipulating the news to be friendly or unfriendly to particular issues is the problem, more coverup isnt the solution.
A person cannot be any more fairly portrayed in media than to be quoted verbatim with pictures. There is no measure of kind or not-kind about it. Its like trying to measure sound decibles with a meat thermometer.
eShirl
(20,253 posts)That woman likes to gun down living things when she gets pissed off.
Aussie105
(7,920 posts)Stamp collecting or collecting He-Man figurines.
Or model cars.
Even gun collecting.
Building model aeroplane or ship kits from plastic bits and painting them up, perhaps?
Someone one step removed from a public figure really should know better!
Who is to say he is feeling shame, remorse or pain?
Or even capable of such feelings?
I mean, look who he is married to!
Irish_Dem
(81,248 posts)They will kill us all in our beds if they can figure out a way to do it.
And we are supposed to nice to the bastards.
No way in hell.
We fight.
And we gd fight to win.
Irish_Dem
(81,248 posts)But his wife is murdering American citizens in cold blood and terrorizing the world.
Scrivener7
(59,519 posts)the "outing" was engineered by Stephen Miller to take attention off him and blame Noem for the deaths of Pretti and Good in Minnesota, for which Miller was to blame.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221138717
Thoughts about the husband aside, I don't want to be a pawn in Miller's ratfucking.
She's gone. He's still wreaking havoc. Let's put our attention there.
Celerity
(54,405 posts)Sympthsical
(10,969 posts)WSHazel
(758 posts)And celebrate how Noem, Lewandowski, and everyone else that knew about his fetish is so tolerant.
That is all bulls*** of course, but by taking that approach we dont kink shame while simultaneously humiliating everyone around Trump for their obvious hypocrisy. Assume everyone knew, and then make them deny it. The more they talk about it, the more they piss off their intolerant base.
mainer
(12,554 posts)His private behavior doesn't affect us. Give him some grace.