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EnergizedLib

(3,045 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 05:59 AM 5 hrs ago

The new MAGAt buzzword

Fraud.

I see the claim of fraud being cried over everything as justification for cutting all social programs, to the point that the word fraud is becoming meaningless in and of itself.

Widespread voter fraud does not exist, nor were the daycare fraud accusations substantiated, but they sure were used to cut, cut, cut. Nick Shirley isn’t some great journalist, just some partisan hack like LibsofTikTok - one looks the other way when the cult leader pardons fraudsters, the other looks the other way when someone from their side sexually abuses children.

The truth is is that none of us have any money. It’s all the government’s money and government knows how to spend our money better than we do. I am a statist, believe it would be better if we abandoned the belief in any God for a worship of the state, but we need to elect Democrats to do so.

The felon letting states trying to handle daycare, Medicare and Medicaid is a disaster, as these things are better done at the federal level, not the state level, that we have an outdated Constitution and need more social programs, not less, and we also need less war to invest in our citizens.

It’s not fraud to look over our fellow people with tax dollars, which is not more important than other people’s well being.

Fraud, as being used, is devolving into a completely meaningless term.

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The new MAGAt buzzword (Original Post) EnergizedLib 5 hrs ago OP
Worship the state? No thanks. Orrex 5 hrs ago #1
I think we'd be better off for it EnergizedLib 5 hrs ago #2
That's a 100% guarantee of extremist authoritarian tyranny Orrex 5 hrs ago #5
How did that work out for Venezuela? ornotna 4 hrs ago #6
No MustLoveBeagles 2 hrs ago #22
I want to go lower than MAGAs and punish them EnergizedLib 58 min ago #23
I understand that but I don't think this is the way MustLoveBeagles 56 min ago #24
Yep I'm seeing it everywhere. It serves both to cut and excuse Trump's debt underpants 5 hrs ago #3
States can't be trusted to do the correct thing, though EnergizedLib 5 hrs ago #4
just completely appalling and disgusting... once again, he shows himself to be absolute scum LymphocyteLover 3 hrs ago #13
"Fraud" means lower income people receiving entitlements. sop 4 hrs ago #7
Exactly EnergizedLib 3 hrs ago #8
Post removed Post removed 3 hrs ago #9
I have a feeling oberle 3 hrs ago #12
s/he did not last long!!! AverageOldGuy 3 hrs ago #15
Library Girl has left the building. Stupid as she is, she'll be back for another slap down. Emile 3 hrs ago #16
It's "Every Accusation is a Confession." GoCubsGo 3 hrs ago #10
it's all disgusting fascist bullshit LymphocyteLover 3 hrs ago #11
Worship the state? When anyone can take it over? That's as silly as pledging allegiance to a flag that anyone WhiskeyGrinder 3 hrs ago #14
To your larger point -- they've seen how it can be weaponized in Minnesota, so they're jumping on that train. WhiskeyGrinder 3 hrs ago #17
How about not "worshiping" anything? IrishAfricanAmerican 2 hrs ago #18
If the MAGATs are running around pointing at everybody and screaming fraud, hadEnuf 2 hrs ago #19
Guilt by accusation. What they blame others of doing is what they are actually doing. talking-liberally 2 hrs ago #20
Childish epistemology. hay rick 2 hrs ago #21

EnergizedLib

(3,045 posts)
2. I think we'd be better off for it
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 06:12 AM
5 hrs ago

If we had one party, leftist rule and worshipped the state.

underpants

(196,508 posts)
3. Yep I'm seeing it everywhere. It serves both to cut and excuse Trump's debt
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 06:14 AM
5 hrs ago
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221141148

Trump Says There’s No Money for Daycare Because We Have to Fight Wars

“I said to [Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought], ‘Don’t send any money for daycare because the United States can’t take care of daycare.’ That has to be up to a state. We can’t take care of daycare. We’re a big country. We have 50 states. We have all these other people,” Trump said. “We’re fighting wars. We can’t take care of daycare. You got to let a state take care of daycare and they should pay for it, too. They should pay. They’ll have to raise their taxes, but they should pay for it. And we could lower our taxes a little bit to them to make up.”


“It’s not possible for us to take care of daycare, Medicaid, Medicare, all these individual things. They can do it on a state basis. You can’t do it on a federal. We have to take care of one thing: military protection. We have to guard the country. But all these little things, all these little scams that have taken place, all you have to you have to let states take care of them,” Trump continued.

EnergizedLib

(3,045 posts)
4. States can't be trusted to do the correct thing, though
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 06:16 AM
5 hrs ago

We can do things at a federal level. It isn’t the 18th Century anymore.

LymphocyteLover

(9,852 posts)
13. just completely appalling and disgusting... once again, he shows himself to be absolute scum
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:21 AM
3 hrs ago

Response to EnergizedLib (Reply #8)

AverageOldGuy

(3,840 posts)
15. s/he did not last long!!!
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:26 AM
3 hrs ago

Between the time I read the comment and the time it was removed . . . . I read the comment, entered my response, it the POST button, and was told I cannot reply to comments that have been removed !!!!!

Emile

(42,300 posts)
16. Library Girl has left the building. Stupid as she is, she'll be back for another slap down.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:27 AM
3 hrs ago

GoCubsGo

(34,916 posts)
10. It's "Every Accusation is a Confession."
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:09 AM
3 hrs ago

Yeah, there's fraud. He and his toadies have been committing it, on steroids, from the get-go.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,958 posts)
14. Worship the state? When anyone can take it over? That's as silly as pledging allegiance to a flag that anyone
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:24 AM
3 hrs ago

can carry. No thanks.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,958 posts)
17. To your larger point -- they've seen how it can be weaponized in Minnesota, so they're jumping on that train.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:29 AM
3 hrs ago

Just another flavor of any of their scare tactics -- racism, anti-gay and anti-trans bigotry, etc. After all, hammering on about welfare queens got them "welfare to work," so why not throw everything at the wall and see what sticks?

hadEnuf

(3,617 posts)
19. If the MAGATs are running around pointing at everybody and screaming fraud,
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:39 AM
2 hrs ago

then they are clearly involved in some kind or terrible fraud right now.

It's how they work. We know this by now.

20. Guilt by accusation. What they blame others of doing is what they are actually doing.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:42 AM
2 hrs ago

insider trading - stock market manipulation
voter suppression
crypto corruption
global human trafficking and rape
- to name just a few

hay rick

(9,607 posts)
21. Childish epistemology.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:46 AM
2 hrs ago

The adult recognition of the existence of occasional fraud is replaced by a juvenile presumption of fraud everywhere without the bother of collecting evidence. Anecdotal evidence is used to preclude the need for close examination of facts. It's a lifestyle: find your victimhood and we will tell you who to blame.

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