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demmiblue

(39,729 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 12:49 PM 11 hrs ago

BREAKING: President Trump confirms that the United States has bombed the B1 bridge in Karaj. This is civilian...

BREAKING

President Trump confirms that the United States has bombed the B1 bridge in Karaj.

This is civilian infrastructure, a major transportation artery.

Where are the MIGA people now?

How’s your Amoo Lindsey doing?

BREAKING

President Trump confirms that the United States has bombed the B1 bridge in Karaj.

This is civilian infrastructure, a major transportation artery.

Where are the MIGA people now?

How’s your Amoo Lindsey doing?

Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yasharali.bsky.social) 2026-04-02T16:46:16.563Z
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BREAKING: President Trump confirms that the United States has bombed the B1 bridge in Karaj. This is civilian... (Original Post) demmiblue 11 hrs ago OP
He's going to think that was a "win" UpInArms 11 hrs ago #1
And we will pay for it orangecrush 10 hrs ago #33
And we will have to pay to rebuild it I bet. Irish_Dem 3 hrs ago #76
Very likely orangecrush 1 hr ago #82
Trump is a madman. Klarkashton 11 hrs ago #2
Are and his family prepared for the Fatwa? PCIntern 11 hrs ago #3
And in my hierarchy of ways I'd prefer that he leave office EYESORE 9001 10 hrs ago #17
Agree MadameButterfly 10 hrs ago #34
My prayer is that they find him and his family Horse with no Name 10 hrs ago #19
Despite the crazy leaders, they do seem to be an innovative people. harumph 9 hrs ago #52
8,000 years of civilization taught them a few things I gather. AloeVera 9 hrs ago #53
..... and if we carry them out, his threats against the electrical and drinking water Iranian infrastructure of Iran Jack Valentino 2 hrs ago #77
I miss Keith Olbermann's Worst Person in the World. City Lights 11 hrs ago #4
He still does them. SheLiberal 11 hrs ago #13
Oh wow! I had no idea! City Lights 11 hrs ago #14
Keith's podcast can be found here Wiz Imp 10 hrs ago #30
Thank you so much! City Lights 9 hrs ago #42
This message was self-deleted by its author City Lights 10 hrs ago #18
He still does Worst Persons in his podcast, which drops about twice weekly. Intractable 10 hrs ago #16
Thanks for the info! City Lights 10 hrs ago #20
The podcast is arranged in true journalistic style. Intractable 10 hrs ago #26
Good to know, thanks! nt City Lights 9 hrs ago #40
He does, and trump is. Everyone else is now OTHER Worst Persons. Volaris 8 hrs ago #62
Trump Gives Netanyahu Another Orgasm dalton99a 11 hrs ago #5
Thank you. H2O Man 11 hrs ago #7
+1 leftstreet 11 hrs ago #10
PLEASE, no video! generalbetrayus 10 hrs ago #31
Isn't it a war crime to deliberately destroy civilian infrastructure? MustLoveBeagles 11 hrs ago #6
BONDI! BONDI! BONDI! leftstreet 10 hrs ago #21
Yeah a little birdie told me Bondi was leaving MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #67
Bridges are considered dual use & have always been legitimate targets EX500rider 9 hrs ago #50
I see MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #68
Legitimate, with restrictions dpibel 2 hrs ago #80
Did they kill civilians?..... Lovie777 11 hrs ago #8
Neener neener...Look what I just did to your country! BeyondGeography 11 hrs ago #9
This is an act of terrorism. Doodley 11 hrs ago #11
Tut tut malaise 10 hrs ago #15
Post removed Post removed 11 hrs ago #12
Not when civilians are on them.............. Lovie777 10 hrs ago #22
There were civilian vehicles on the Crimean bridge Fiendish Thingy 10 hrs ago #25
It depends. GCG 10 hrs ago #23
Hysterically ironic to me that war has rules, thus has war "crimes" Dixiegrrrl 9 hrs ago #48
As said in "The Bridge on the River Kwai" Wednesdays 9 hrs ago #54
Ukraine was invaded, we're looking to steal oil BeyondGeography 10 hrs ago #28
Has he prepared the American people for Johonny 10 hrs ago #24
"Sucks to be you" durablend 4 hrs ago #72
Bridges are generally considered Greg_In_SF 10 hrs ago #27
That usually requires a war to be declared. malthaussen 10 hrs ago #35
+1 leftstreet 9 hrs ago #43
That is Greg_In_SF 4 hrs ago #73
When's the last time a war was "declared" ? EX500rider 2 hrs ago #79
Not relevant here because destroying the bridge has nothing to do with military objectives Mysterian 9 hrs ago #44
Are you in Iran Greg_In_SF 4 hrs ago #74
So it's your position this was obviously justified? dpibel 2 hrs ago #81
Nice try. AloeVera 8 hrs ago #65
Arrest this Trump guy pwb 10 hrs ago #29
He has flipped his lid completely orangecrush 10 hrs ago #32
He exhibits the sort of childish joy he felt when the East Wing was demolished. Harker 10 hrs ago #36
Who chooses the targets? Hegseth? IcyPeas 9 hrs ago #37
Miller has been reported to be actively involved also. n/t Dixiegrrrl 9 hrs ago #49
I can hear the abusive father now... Mblaze 9 hrs ago #38
Amen Whip-poor-will 9 hrs ago #47
I thought they were begging for a deal SamuelTheThird 9 hrs ago #39
And now all civilian infrastructure in the USA becomes fair game, nice work dumbass 0rganism 9 hrs ago #41
Some sort of significant retaliation is inevitable. Trump and his minions have laid us open to attack. flashman13 9 hrs ago #55
Yes, sadly EuterpeThelo 9 hrs ago #60
Too much bad news in TSF's future. He KNOWS his goose is cooked this election. (if no cheating takes place) bluestarone 9 hrs ago #45
Fuck his deal! BidenRocks 9 hrs ago #46
He has already said their oil is there for the taking, so we can see what his "deal" would look like. Doodley 9 hrs ago #57
Mexico will pay for that bridge! bucolic_frolic 9 hrs ago #51
This proves Trump lied.repeatedly 1/ The war has been won. 2/ This isn't a war. 3/ They are reasonable people because Doodley 9 hrs ago #56
Agreed EuterpeThelo 5 hrs ago #71
Good point! Doodley 3 hrs ago #75
Putin definitely approves this war blue-wave 9 hrs ago #58
Bridge over troubled water(s). Water/s equals: theology. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 9 hrs ago #59
USA, the pariah state. Passages 8 hrs ago #61
When one meme just isn't enough... ShazzieB 8 hrs ago #63
Let me be the first to say this... ShazzieB 8 hrs ago #64
You can see where this is going. No bridge... ananda 8 hrs ago #66
Making us safer by making enemies all over the world. Nanjeanne 7 hrs ago #69
The felon's list of war crimes are mounting. The U.S. is a global pariah on all fronts. pat_k 7 hrs ago #70
I wonder if citizens of another country are picking the targets. David__77 2 hrs ago #78

PCIntern

(28,380 posts)
3. Are and his family prepared for the Fatwa?
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 12:59 PM
11 hrs ago

Say what you want about the Iranians, But I wouldn’t fuck with them without being ready to find out.

EYESORE 9001

(29,737 posts)
17. And in my hierarchy of ways I'd prefer that he leave office
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:36 PM
10 hrs ago

that scenario is my least favorite. Can you imagine the martyrdom? He would be apotheosisized and canonized in one fell swoop.

MadameButterfly

(4,042 posts)
34. Agree
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:18 PM
10 hrs ago

I want him in jail, not a coffin. While he is alive he will continue to destroy his legacy. Once dead, they'll create a myth that will be hard to touch.

Horse with no Name

(34,240 posts)
19. My prayer is that they find him and his family
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:38 PM
10 hrs ago

If that is our only way out, then so be it.

AloeVera

(4,266 posts)
53. 8,000 years of civilization taught them a few things I gather.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:12 PM
9 hrs ago

To them, WE are the barbarians.

And Trump is proving them right.

Jack Valentino

(5,045 posts)
77. ..... and if we carry them out, his threats against the electrical and drinking water Iranian infrastructure of Iran
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:00 PM
2 hrs ago

are NOT going to lead the people of Iran to rebel against their own government---
not when some other government (us) is BOMBING them and cutting off
their water and electricity !!!!

The end result would seem to be that 'The Great Satan'
that their own government has been warning them about (us)
for 40-some years will have DESTROYED their quality of life
while killing very many of them....

Seems to me that our attacks on them will destroy any chances
for the 'internal rebellion' which we were hoping would happen,
and indeed was STARTING to happen, before we initiated this
'Epstein Files Fury War' !

Trump and his advisors FAILED basic psychology courses, or more likely never took any---
(or some instructors were 'paid off' to 'pass' them)---

City Lights

(25,841 posts)
4. I miss Keith Olbermann's Worst Person in the World.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:00 PM
11 hrs ago

Rapist would win it every day, hands down.

City Lights

(25,841 posts)
14. Oh wow! I had no idea!
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:33 PM
11 hrs ago

I'm not a big podcast person, but I will have to look into this! Thanks so much for letting me know!!

Response to SheLiberal (Reply #13)

Intractable

(2,111 posts)
16. He still does Worst Persons in his podcast, which drops about twice weekly.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:36 PM
10 hrs ago

In the latest edition, he was sticking it to Katy Tur.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1322111045

Intractable

(2,111 posts)
26. The podcast is arranged in true journalistic style.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:49 PM
10 hrs ago

The important stuff is up front, generally consisting of newsworthy topics.

By the time you get to the end, he's dishing dirt on his ex-girlfriends (like Katy Tur) or former colleagues (like Rachel Maddow).

If you listen to enough of these podcasts, you hear the same dirt about the same people.

MustLoveBeagles

(16,432 posts)
67. Yeah a little birdie told me Bondi was leaving
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 04:31 PM
8 hrs ago


But seriously I know mistakes happen in war but this seems like a deliberate act.

EX500rider

(12,586 posts)
50. Bridges are considered dual use & have always been legitimate targets
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:02 PM
9 hrs ago
Their classification as "dual-use" infrastructure (civilian and military use) allows for targeting, provided the attack offers a clear military advantage and follows proportionality rules.

dpibel

(3,947 posts)
80. Legitimate, with restrictions
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:15 PM
2 hrs ago

The "provided by" seems rather to heavily qualify your "always been" subject line declaration.

I realize that there are people in the world for whom "because I say so" is sufficient clear military advantage, but I hope we do not find them here.

BeyondGeography

(41,106 posts)
9. Neener neener...Look what I just did to your country!
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:19 PM
11 hrs ago

Madness. He’s putting a big fat target on all things American.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Lovie777

(23,001 posts)
22. Not when civilians are on them..............
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:45 PM
10 hrs ago

If that's the case, a enemy can bomb one of our bridges while civilians are traveling on them.

That is a war crime.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,249 posts)
25. There were civilian vehicles on the Crimean bridge
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:48 PM
10 hrs ago

When Ukraine bombed it (although just a few as it was 3am)

GCG

(88 posts)
23. It depends.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:47 PM
10 hrs ago

No, not all bridges are legal targets in war. Under international humanitarian law (the law of armed conflict), a bridge only becomes a legitimate military target if it makes an effective contribution to military action and its destruction offers a definite military advantage.

Bridges are classic examples of "dual-use" targets. While they are crucial for civilian transportation and infrastructure, their utility in moving military assets often makes them targets. The legality of targeting them often hinges on the Principle of Distinction, which requires parties to distinguish between civilian objects and military objectives.

If a bridge is used for civilian purposes, attacking it when there is no significant military advantage—or when the damage to civilians is disproportionate—is a violation of international law.

Dixiegrrrl

(209 posts)
48. Hysterically ironic to me that war has rules, thus has war "crimes"
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:55 PM
9 hrs ago

which has punishments.
War itself is not a crime, but has rules that people break and often get away with.

Insane.

Wednesdays

(22,620 posts)
54. As said in "The Bridge on the River Kwai"
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:15 PM
9 hrs ago

when British Colonel Nicholson told Japanese Colonel Saito that his mistreatment of prisoners of war violated the Geneva Convention, Saito snapped, "This war, not a game of cricket!"

BeyondGeography

(41,106 posts)
28. Ukraine was invaded, we're looking to steal oil
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:01 PM
10 hrs ago

So at best we’re talking about a valid act of war in a war of legitimate self-defense and a valid act of war in an unprovoked war of aggression.

Johonny

(26,195 posts)
24. Has he prepared the American people for
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:48 PM
10 hrs ago

The wave of symmetrical terrorism that is sure to follow?

Greg_In_SF

(1,254 posts)
27. Bridges are generally considered
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:51 PM
10 hrs ago

legitimate military targets under international humanitarian law (IHL), also known as the law of armed conflict, if their destruction offers a definite military advantage.

malthaussen

(18,573 posts)
35. That usually requires a war to be declared.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:21 PM
10 hrs ago

Otherwise, it is just state-sponsored terrorism.

-- Mal

EX500rider

(12,586 posts)
79. When's the last time a war was "declared" ?
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:07 PM
2 hrs ago
The United States last formally declared war during World War II, with the final declarations approved by Congress on June 4, 1942, against Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania
Yet Korea, Vietnam, Iraq I/II etc were all wars.

Mysterian

(6,489 posts)
44. Not relevant here because destroying the bridge has nothing to do with military objectives
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:47 PM
9 hrs ago

But thanks for playing. We have some nice parting gifts for you backstage.

Greg_In_SF

(1,254 posts)
74. Are you in Iran
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:16 PM
4 hrs ago

and able to confirm that there was zero Iranian military activity on the bridge?

dpibel

(3,947 posts)
81. So it's your position this was obviously justified?
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:20 PM
2 hrs ago

Just want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly.

Put another way: In your jurisprudence, if an Iranian soldier has crossed that bridge, it's a legitimate target?

AloeVera

(4,266 posts)
65. Nice try.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:57 PM
8 hrs ago

Proportionality and distinction play a role too, not just military advantage.

Good luck fitting in those principles to this obviously wanton act of destruction, terrorism against civilians and blackmail.

Though IHL doesn't apply to "excursions" in the first place, does it?

pwb

(12,677 posts)
29. Arrest this Trump guy
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:03 PM
10 hrs ago

and Netanyahu and Putin and put them all on trial together for the world to see. Only a few men are causing all this. The world will be better without their fucked up leadership. What an example all three set ? It is like a game for them, who can be the biggest asshole to humanity?

Mblaze

(1,046 posts)
38. I can hear the abusive father now...
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:38 PM
9 hrs ago

"This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you".

It was bullshit then, it's bullshit now.

0rganism

(25,648 posts)
41. And now all civilian infrastructure in the USA becomes fair game, nice work dumbass
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:43 PM
9 hrs ago

F47 and the entire chain of command responsible for executing this obviously-illegal order are now war criminals, state terrorists. Top to bottom. This event marks the absolute end of a century where America and our ideals were widely seen as aspirational. Now we've become transparently evil, a warning flag to the rest of the world. And when the next terror attack on the mainland happens, we will respond with the usual barrage of awful things once again, but we will do them alone.

flashman13

(2,407 posts)
55. Some sort of significant retaliation is inevitable. Trump and his minions have laid us open to attack.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:16 PM
9 hrs ago

Was that just a function of his stupidity or was it intentional?

BTW Don't get bit by a skunk. There will be no one at CDC to test you for rabies. There is also no one at the Iranian desk in the FBI. Thomas Fugate is a nobody 22 year old Trump campaign staffer, U of Texas class of 2024, that sits at the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships security desk to combat violent extremism.

Good Luck! We are going to need it.

EuterpeThelo

(364 posts)
60. Yes, sadly
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:32 PM
9 hrs ago

this time, there will be no headlines from the former allies we've repeatedly insulted proclaiming "we are all Americans now."

bluestarone

(22,188 posts)
45. Too much bad news in TSF's future. He KNOWS his goose is cooked this election. (if no cheating takes place)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:50 PM
9 hrs ago

So Expect what you would expect if a RAT is cornered. Even a nuclear device being used in Iran.

Doodley

(11,920 posts)
57. He has already said their oil is there for the taking, so we can see what his "deal" would look like.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:19 PM
9 hrs ago

Doodley

(11,920 posts)
56. This proves Trump lied.repeatedly 1/ The war has been won. 2/ This isn't a war. 3/ They are reasonable people because
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:16 PM
9 hrs ago

they sent me a prize. 4/ We are negotiating with them. 5/ We don't need help from our allies because we have already won. 6/ We have achieved our objectives. None of these things can be true if he is still destroying their infrastructure and threatening to send them back to the stone age. He is a deranged lunatic who single-handedly has created a global crisis.

EuterpeThelo

(364 posts)
71. Agreed
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 07:30 PM
5 hrs ago

except for the part about single-handedly. Every one of his corrupt, cowardly, incompetent enablers has blood on their hands.

blue-wave

(5,151 posts)
58. Putin definitely approves this war
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:21 PM
9 hrs ago

The whole mess is a page or two out of Putin's playbook.

Passages

(4,171 posts)
61. USA, the pariah state.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:35 PM
8 hrs ago

Just think of the hatred just among Americans for this guy. 8 million on the streets last Saturday, visible in defiance of his presidency.

Across the globe, remember that he intentionally hurt Cubans and their babies, his threats to Greenland, his coup in Venezuela, what he allows for in Gaza, and what we fund.

His ICE agents across our country, the terror and death alone by that agency under his orders.

Blowback: unintended consequences, side-effects, or repercussions that result from an activity that has a negative effect on U.S. national security interests.
https://www.cia.gov/resources/spy-glossary/

pat_k

(13,393 posts)
70. The felon's list of war crimes are mounting. The U.S. is a global pariah on all fronts.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 05:30 PM
7 hrs ago

Any military leader with a moral fiber left should go public with refusals.

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