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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: TRUMP JUST LOST SAUDI ARABIA
I've been waiting and watching to see when news of this would hit DU and wider media, but I haven't seen it. Perhaps my search terms were the problem...
**BUT, trump insulted the Saudis and said MBS was "kissing his ass" at a Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund conference in Miami last Friday.
His exact words: He didnt think he would be kissing my ass. He really didnt. And now he has to be nice to me. You tell him hed better be nice to me. Hes got to be.
The President of the United States, on a Saudi-funded stage, publicly declared the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia a subordinate who must perform deference to retain American protection. A dominance display. Performed for investors. Broadcast on C-SPAN. On Saudi money. There was no walk-back. No clarification. No suggestion that Trump misspoke.
BREAKING: TRUMP JUST LOST SAUDI ARABIA
This is a report from Canadian Dean Blundell's substack. I got turned onto him by our very own Amaryllis here at DU. He produces some really important and interesting content and I'm so glad she posted him a while back! I try to check on him daily.
If you hit the link, you'll get more info and a video clip... Zelensky stepped in and has walked out of Jeddah with 10-year defense partnerships signed with three Gulf states. Three. In one week.
I wish I could post the entire thing -- it's incredible... many layers. The dominoes are falling.
Stupid trump and his inept crew juggling diplomacy and defense, and wrecking everything.
You do NOT insult or criticize the Crown Prince. He kills people for minor offenses.
Coventina
(29,748 posts)Marie Marie
(11,318 posts)strongly encourage Mr. Bone Spurs to keep belittling Mr. Bone Saw. Trump is a tough guy - what could possible go wrong?
struggle4progress
(126,177 posts)or he might come out neatly packed into several duffle baga
Trueblue Texan
(4,470 posts)PuraVidaDreamin
(4,615 posts)SA will not be welcoming him.
FoxNewsSucks
(11,713 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,910 posts)I think the grifter got a little too sure of himself.
wnylib
(26,032 posts)NJCher
(43,174 posts)Here's the link to my post: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221131990
If you'll note in my OP, I observe how he realizes he went too far and then tries to back peddle, saying MBS is a "regular guy."
What a dufus. Even his backpeddling is incompetent. I doubt MBS wants to be thought of as a "regular guy."
yellow dahlia
(5,910 posts)enid602
(9,693 posts)I hope Kushners making a good return on the $2B he owes the sovereign fund of Saudi Arabia.. And on the additional $1B he owes to the sovereign funds of other Gulf States.
jls4561
(3,125 posts)purchased did not perform as promised.
modrepub
(4,112 posts)I thought the House Of Saud actively wanted "regime change" in Iran. Given the different sects of Islam they represent, the countries are natural belligerents.
What will truly be interesting is how the house of Saud lines up with Israel after all the dust settles from this little soiree. There was a subtle partnership between the two before this all started.
As I've said before, war is horribly expensive and utterly unpredictable. One should really think many times before one enters into it; no one goes into war thinking they'll lose or there will be unwelcome consequences Sometimes it's cheaper and wise to put up with disagreeable neighbors then trying to oust them.
NJCher
(43,174 posts)I think it's protection money and I've said so before on these threads.
We'll find out if the Saudis decide to call in a loan.
Kid Berwyn
(24,422 posts)Bonesaw says Jared is in his pocket and, going by the intel he got, $2 billion was a bargain.
FakeNoose
(41,666 posts)He's better off at this point, playing up to MBS than to his own father-in-law. However there's no word yet on whether this is a break within the family. If could be that MBS is done with all Americans including Jared. Let's see what happens in the next few days.
I've always wondered how Jared was able to get so close to MBS, when he's known to be Jewish and a close friend to Netanyahu.
lamp_shade
(15,485 posts)rzemanfl
(31,393 posts)generalbetrayus
(1,867 posts)Norrrm
(5,068 posts)Wednesdays
(22,620 posts)It's nothing a couple trillion dollars won't fix.
erronis
(23,907 posts)And implications about cleanliness and "asses". Trump may find his ass in a sling soon - separated from the rest of his corpulent self.
Lonestarblue
(13,484 posts)spanone
(141,638 posts)We won't have a single friend on earth.
Thank the fucking republicons.
Eko
(9,995 posts)democrank
(12,604 posts)the stuff used to protect a basketball court floor.
liberalla
(11,098 posts)blue-wave
(5,151 posts)bulls in a china shop.
UpInArms
(55,000 posts)Canada. Europe. Now the Gulf. One by one, the relationships that constituted the American-led world order are being stress-tested and found wanting. Not because America is weak because Washington is making itself untrustworthy. Unpredictable. Humiliating to stand next to in public.
liberalla
(11,098 posts)I almost posted that! There's so many important angles in this story, or to this event that we should be aware of. An intelligent person in another country can see things that we're missing... that aren't being openly discussed in our media (controlled by 4 or 5 billionaires courting dear leader for more tax breaks, I guess?).
Anyway, thank you! I'm glad you posted that!
Amaryllis
(11,304 posts)blue-wave
(5,151 posts)over the Ukraine/Saudi defense deal:
'Putin is scared to death right now' Bill Browder and Rubio disses MBS over Saudi/Ukraine Defense Deal?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/113356098
JT45242
(4,046 posts)MBS will make him pay with the video evidence that they accumulated for years at the various Epstein locations
would be the ideal outcome!
OC375
(942 posts)I doubt they are thrilled, but they are very patient and practical. Iran also announced to expect incoming on some of their bridges shortly, so I'd imagine they would at least wait to see how the dust settles. If they were going to viscerally dump Trump in outrage over an insult, I'd imagine it would have happened 6 or 7 days ago. I doubt they will forget it, though.
liberalla
(11,098 posts)Heres the downstream damage nobody in Washington is saying out loud.
Ukraine is now a more important military partner to Saudi Arabia and the Gulf than the United States is in the one domain that actually matters right now: active threat response. America sells Saudi Arabia F-35s and Patriot batteries. Ukraine solves the problem Saudi Arabia has today Iranian drone swarms raining down on oil infrastructure while American interceptor stockpiles run dry and Lockheed Martins production line cant keep pace with the war."
Bev54
(13,434 posts)he writes, he often exaggerates and sometimes writes outright untruths and other times he gets it right. I say be cautious.
moonscape
(5,729 posts)makes sense and ring true in here to me.
Bev54
(13,434 posts)It is just a warning to confirm information from him.
moonscape
(5,729 posts)steeped in the region and your caution is sound.
He said the deal with Ukrainians started weeks ago pre humiliation and that they are unrelated. As for the humiliation? They can absorb it based on history.
Blue Owl
(59,116 posts)usonian
(25,381 posts)And it looks like Bonesaw sold his copy.
For sure, previous owners include Putin and Musk: whoever seems to dangle him like a marionette.
One of these days, someone is going to cash it in big time, or "lose" it, and his party is over.
Donald should hope and pray that Prince Bonesaw doesn't "go to Jared".
Pray? HA HA HA HA He prays only TO HIMSELF.
liberalla
(11,098 posts)" doesn't "go to Jared"..."
usonian
(25,381 posts)
muriel_volestrangler
(106,216 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221131990
and the claim about linking it to the agreement with Ukraine was made on Tuesday, but that seems to not have a reliable origin - just a Ukrainian in Canada: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221136009#post20
blue-wave
(5,151 posts)out in the days that followed confirming it all. So it is more than, how did you say? "just a Ukrainian in Canada"
Slava Ukraini!! Heroyam Slava!! Slava NaViki!!
ToxMarz
(2,938 posts)Everything Trump touches, dies. And you deserve it, thought you could dance with the devil and not get burned.
Deuxcents
(26,944 posts)NoSheep
(8,346 posts)I feel like I'm losing my mind
aggiesal
(10,816 posts)He's just a Mob Boss of an Organized Criminal Syndicate (R)'s,
that got his jaw clocked by another Mob Boss of an Organized Criminal Syndicate
that actually has more leverage in the ME than Mierda47.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,520 posts)Why does anyone think Piggy JUST LOST SAUDI ARABIA?
Piggy handed Jamal Khashoggi to King Bonesaw for torture and assassination, they're molded from the same rancid shit.
Trueblue1968
(19,253 posts)Buddyzbuddy
(2,640 posts)Buddyzbuddy
(2,640 posts)Jack Valentino
(5,045 posts)Amaryllis
(11,304 posts)America doesn't even know exist. Drone warfare has changed everything and Ukraine is ahead of everyone else.
The gulf states are treating Zelenskyy with respect and dignity. And he knows how to behave with foreign leaders.
He didn't just lose Saudi Arabia. He lost the entire gulf.
liberalla
(11,098 posts)I admire him immensely, and it pi$$ed me off to no end when drumpf was so derisive and dismissive of him and of Ukraine. He was always the better man. I wish Joe had been able to help him & Ukraine more.
Did you see this one? The US Could Have Have Had Ukranian Drone Tech Seven Months Ago - For Free. Trump Chose To Mock Zelensky For Putin instead. (also from Dean Blundell)
Amaryllis
(11,304 posts)I follow several Substack writers who cover Ukraine and read about that several places. Also Meidas Touch covered Trump turning down Zelenskyy's offer.
Do you know Viktor Kravchuk? He is a Ukrainian who writes beautiful and profound posts.Totally different from Blundell.
https://freedomline.substack.com/
He Wore a Crown and Called it a Joke
https://freedomline.substack.com/p/he-wore-a-crown-and-called-it-a-joke
https://freedomline.substack.com/p/minneapolis-is-not-far-from-ukraine
Minneapolis Is Not Far From Kyiv
From those invaded by Russia to those invaded by ICE
https://viktorkravchuk.substack.com/
War, Love and Survival in Ukraine
Joinfortmill
(21,178 posts)Figarosmom
(12,027 posts)See if he disappears.
Aristus
(72,192 posts)He is not now, and will never, suffer for his demented douchebaggery. Only his death will end this nightmare.
drray23
(8,777 posts)There is probably a line of people who would want to get to him. Of course, we could provide him with a safe place like a supermax prison.
Cirsium
(3,944 posts)Bone spurs are no match for bone saws.
liberalla
(11,098 posts)Melon
(1,526 posts)Is this true? Why would absolutely nobody be carrying it.
