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Amaryllis

(11,309 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 11:00 AM 8 hrs ago

Trump's team won't invoke the 25th Amendment. Here's a better way to stop him. (Miles Taylor)

https://www.defiance.news/p/trumps-team-wont-invoke-the-25th

In Trump's first term, I participated in secret debates about the president's derangement and whether to invoke emergency powers. Only one scenario seemed viable.
Miles Taylor
Apr 06, 2026

Years ago, I revealed that Trump’s Cabinet discussed the possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment to remove him from office during his first term. We ran the scenarios. And there was only one that made sense.

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In 2018, I disclosed that members of Donald Trump’s own cabinet had privately discussed invoking the Twenty-Fifth Amendment during his first term. What I described was not rumor or speculation. It was the lived reality of senior officials who had concluded, in private, that the president might be trending toward the type of unhinged conduct that could conceivably justify his removal. We weren’t there yet. But we could all see where his impulsive conduct and disconnection from reality was headed. It wasn’t good.

We judged that Trump was capable of getting us into an accidental nuclear conflict. I can’t think of more appropriate circumstances than that to invoke the Amendment. Yet those Cabinet members, almost to a person, chose not to act.

Why? The mechanics of that hesitation are worth revisiting.

By early 2018, the conversations were real and they were serious. Rod Rosenstein, then the deputy attorney general, had discussed not only wearing a wire in the Oval Office but invoking what officials in those days simply called “the Twenty-Fifth.” The White House chief of staff had quietly conducted an informal whip count of sorts among cabinet secretaries. The results were sobering and instructive.

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Trump's team won't invoke the 25th Amendment. Here's a better way to stop him. (Miles Taylor) (Original Post) Amaryllis 8 hrs ago OP
It's why Trump values loyalty over competence. surfered 8 hrs ago #1
Spoiler alert - the author puts his money on the mid-term elections. TheRickles 8 hrs ago #2
Thanks orangecrush 6 hrs ago #6
Talk about a lot of hype BaronChocula 5 hrs ago #7
good article, and i pray we can defeat this monster on nov. rampartd 7 hrs ago #3
That's a sobering article. Thanks for posting. cloudbase 6 hrs ago #4
Taylor's post is the wake-up call we need. Pinback 6 hrs ago #5
Voting did not work in 2000 DemocracyForever 5 hrs ago #8
The "Too Big To Rig" coalition RainCaster 2 hrs ago #9

TheRickles

(3,405 posts)
2. Spoiler alert - the author puts his money on the mid-term elections.
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 11:21 AM
8 hrs ago

Better organizing, GOTV, etc., to set up a blue wave. But no mention of voter suppression and even preventing voting from happening. So not as juicy an article as I was hoping for. I thought there would be some legislative or Constitutional loophole somewhere.....

BaronChocula

(4,575 posts)
7. Talk about a lot of hype
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 01:30 PM
5 hrs ago

Thanks Myles, but we know. We were the ones that did it the LAST time.

rampartd

(4,655 posts)
3. good article, and i pray we can defeat this monster on nov.
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 11:24 AM
7 hrs ago

taylor's answer is an old fashioned horse whipping at the polls.....

Every moment that senators spend calling for a mechanism that requires Trump’s own cabinet to act against him is a moment not spent registering voters in Wisconsin, recruiting candidates in competitive House districts, or building the grassroots organization that’s the only thing that can reliably constrain a demagogue.

my opinion, it is too late for that.

taylor is correct that the 25th amendment will not be invoked, and there will be no removal by impeachment.

Pinback

(13,608 posts)
5. Taylor's post is the wake-up call we need.
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 01:15 PM
6 hrs ago

There will be no 25th Amendment deus ex machina. Organizing, hard work, and collaboration among democracy’s defenders will provide the wind in our sails.

DemocracyForever

(83 posts)
8. Voting did not work in 2000
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 01:32 PM
5 hrs ago

thanks to 5 corrupt GOP Supreme Court judges who threw out 160,000 legally cast ballots in the most heavily democratic voting counties in Florida in order to install their preferred candidate Bush and trash the will of we the people. This judicial cup d'état is what created the nightmare we're now living in.

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