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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's team won't invoke the 25th Amendment. Here's a better way to stop him. (Miles Taylor)
https://www.defiance.news/p/trumps-team-wont-invoke-the-25thIn Trump's first term, I participated in secret debates about the president's derangement and whether to invoke emergency powers. Only one scenario seemed viable.
Miles Taylor
Apr 06, 2026
Years ago, I revealed that Trumps Cabinet discussed the possibility of invoking the 25th Amendment to remove him from office during his first term. We ran the scenarios. And there was only one that made sense.
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In 2018, I disclosed that members of Donald Trumps own cabinet had privately discussed invoking the Twenty-Fifth Amendment during his first term. What I described was not rumor or speculation. It was the lived reality of senior officials who had concluded, in private, that the president might be trending toward the type of unhinged conduct that could conceivably justify his removal. We werent there yet. But we could all see where his impulsive conduct and disconnection from reality was headed. It wasnt good.
We judged that Trump was capable of getting us into an accidental nuclear conflict. I cant think of more appropriate circumstances than that to invoke the Amendment. Yet those Cabinet members, almost to a person, chose not to act.
Why? The mechanics of that hesitation are worth revisiting.
By early 2018, the conversations were real and they were serious. Rod Rosenstein, then the deputy attorney general, had discussed not only wearing a wire in the Oval Office but invoking what officials in those days simply called the Twenty-Fifth. The White House chief of staff had quietly conducted an informal whip count of sorts among cabinet secretaries. The results were sobering and instructive.
Much more at link
surfered
(13,560 posts)TheRickles
(3,405 posts)Better organizing, GOTV, etc., to set up a blue wave. But no mention of voter suppression and even preventing voting from happening. So not as juicy an article as I was hoping for. I thought there would be some legislative or Constitutional loophole somewhere.....
orangecrush
(30,410 posts)BaronChocula
(4,575 posts)Thanks Myles, but we know. We were the ones that did it the LAST time.
rampartd
(4,655 posts)taylor's answer is an old fashioned horse whipping at the polls.....
Every moment that senators spend calling for a mechanism that requires Trumps own cabinet to act against him is a moment not spent registering voters in Wisconsin, recruiting candidates in competitive House districts, or building the grassroots organization thats the only thing that can reliably constrain a demagogue.
my opinion, it is too late for that.
taylor is correct that the 25th amendment will not be invoked, and there will be no removal by impeachment.
cloudbase
(6,275 posts)Pinback
(13,608 posts)There will be no 25th Amendment deus ex machina. Organizing, hard work, and collaboration among democracys defenders will provide the wind in our sails.
DemocracyForever
(83 posts)thanks to 5 corrupt GOP Supreme Court judges who threw out 160,000 legally cast ballots in the most heavily democratic voting counties in Florida in order to install their preferred candidate Bush and trash the will of we the people. This judicial cup d'état is what created the nightmare we're now living in.
RainCaster
(13,742 posts)I that idea!
50501 and beyond.