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I'm a regular on a daily trading group of very well-informed, plugged-in lifelong daytraders.
I'm speculating here, but I think this whole Trump threat is a massive grift. Markets are gearing up for some high-drama volatility during evening futures markets. He will probably taco out, and insiders will make windfall profits. Tonite's markets will be like the superbowl for traders.
Nation states are now participating in these market manipulations. I've never seen anything like this. Every tweet is worth billions.
Cheezoholic
(3,748 posts)the oil companies were one of the few to have yet got their paycheck. When he did this they didn't do anything and the price of their US oil became instantly more profitable like a Bitcoin jump. Just sayin'. And I agree with you, the ultimate driver behind anything this guy and his gang do, the end game is about stuffing their pockets with as much cash from wherever they can get get it, legal or not, as fast as they can.
jmbar2
(8,019 posts)With the amount of manipulation here, Russia, China and N. Korea are making' bank as well. Maybe even Iran.
in2herbs
(4,424 posts)launch a nuclear attack against Iran or anywhere! He has 1/3 of the codes. only. The military has the others and we should be wondering if the military will do the right thing and tell him to go fly a kite or whether they will follow illegal orders.
If the Rs know the football process is is this why the Rs are vacationing instead of trying to prevent a perceived nuclear war?
We will take all the money back that F45 and his regime has grifted. If an elected Congress person does not follow our lead they need to be outed for being a Trump supporter.
jmbar2
(8,019 posts)I'm glad that he is prevented from pushing the button on his own. I hope the others sill have some common sense.
in2herbs
(4,424 posts)at 8 pm tonight. I hope the military moves in and removes him from office as they don't need the 25th to do so.
Disaffected
(6,444 posts)Gemini AI, FWIW, says (apologies for the missing formatting):
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In the United States, the President has sole authority to order a nuclear launch. This means the President does not legally require the consent of the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, or Congress to authorize a strike.How the Process WorksAuthentication: To issue an order, the President must provide a unique authentication code, known as the Gold Codes, often carried on a plastic card nicknamed the "biscuit." This identifies the person as the Commander-in-Chief to the National Military Command Center (NMCC).The "Football": A military aide always accompanies the President with the Nuclear Football, a briefcase containing strike options and communication tools.No Veto: While the Secretary of Defense is required to verify that the order is authentic, they do not have the power to veto it.Potential Safeguards and ConstraintsWhile the authority is singular, the execution of the order is not. The system includes several practical and legal checks:The Two-Person Rule: Once a launch order is received at the operational level (such as a missile silo or submarine), two or more authorized individuals must independently verify the order and simultaneously turn keys or enter codes to execute it.Legal Obligation to Disobey: Under military law, service members are required to disobey "manifestly unlawful" orders. If an order to use nuclear weapons were deemed a violation of international humanitarian law or a war crime (e.g., targeting civilians without military necessity), commanders could theoretically refuse to carry it out.Recent Context: As of April 2026, there has been heightened public debate regarding this authority following escalating tensions with Iran and "Operation Epic Fury," leading some experts to call for reforms that would require additional certifications for a nuclear first strike.
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The above does not seem to support any 1/3 situation. Note especially the first two sentences.
usonian
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jmbar2
(8,019 posts)dgauss
(1,551 posts)Along with some incredibly profitable trades or bets just before the announcement.
jmbar2
(8,019 posts)Market surged on it. Probably more later tonite. Another surge of 50 pts in futures after hours possible.