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Jack Valentino

(5,084 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:09 AM 5 hrs ago

'Trump always chickens out'? NOT THIS TIME..... I don't think we should use that term tonight--

when the decision was clearly RIGHT, for once---- to not initiate a GENOCIDE against nearly 100 million people in Iran,
many of whom OPPOSE their current government,
and instead allow diplomacy to work, for once---

To say that he 'chickened out' is to imply that he
should have acted upon his promised threats--- which would have resulted in the deaths
of millions of innocent Iranians---- including those who oppose their current regime

wiping out their electric power plants and numerous bridges, with conventional weapons
as well as water plants would have effectively mimicked the results of a nuclear attack,
without using any nukes at all-- (minus the fallout)
but created a total humanitarian disaster in Iran....
and made the country "unlivable" --- no electricity, no clean water, no refridgeration of food....

and NO PRAISE of Trump here---- all his prior words are subject to condemnation and scorn!!!
(and are deserving of such)


BUT----- I don't think he should be 'mocked' for avoiding
committing a genocide which he threatened to commit,
before somebody talked him 'off the cliff'---

wait, I mean he possibly shouldn't be mocked for 'making the correct decision'---


Whether the orange geezer should be mocked for
having said those things in the first place,
that is a different thing and 'fair game' as I am concerned,
but it is a thin red line.....

(anybody recognize my movie reference there? story of the battles over Guadalcanal!)


Pardon my post--- I was seriously worried that the demented orange geezer
would initiate actions tonight which could precipitate World War Three---
so now I hope we have a reprieve of at least two weeks---
for which I am grateful!

(That's another two weeks for some Republicans to possibly come to their senses---
although I don't necessarily have much faith in that!)













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'Trump always chickens out'? NOT THIS TIME..... I don't think we should use that term tonight-- (Original Post) Jack Valentino 5 hrs ago OP
That has been true every time the term TACO jas been used. Ms. Toad 4 hrs ago #1
OK..But If He Wears A Tan Suit or Melania Turns Out WizumbODaSage 2 hrs ago #9
Tan suit yes, Melania turns out to be a man - NO. Ms. Toad 2 hrs ago #13
I'm Talkin' 'Bout MAGA'S Post Pres Treatment of Obama WizumbODaSage 2 hrs ago #15
Do you really think he's doing the "right" thing by manipulating markets fujiyamasan 2 hrs ago #12
The THREATS are WAR CRIMES too pat_k 4 hrs ago #2
I'm not a lawyer, so I won't dispute your supposition.... Jack Valentino 4 hrs ago #4
quite apart from the fact that taunting the psychopath stopdiggin 4 hrs ago #3
He should be removed from office for making the statement. 1WorldHope 4 hrs ago #5
YES, he SHOULD HAVE been removed from office LONG ago, but too many Republicans Jack Valentino 4 hrs ago #6
He put himself into a lose/lose situation with his ludicrous, reckless threats HesNotHere 3 hrs ago #7
He Also Met His Match. Messianic Islamists Who WizumbODaSage 2 hrs ago #11
Not sure the late-night comedians will do that... Justice matters. 2 hrs ago #8
I don't think he was planning to follow through with this. LeftInTX 2 hrs ago #10
When I Read That B-52's Had Left The UK I Smelled A Rat DallasNE 2 hrs ago #14
Iran isn't the only one being threatened with bombardment I'm sure. Buddyzbuddy 1 hr ago #16
Its simplistic messaging Cosmocat 32 min ago #17

Ms. Toad

(38,667 posts)
1. That has been true every time the term TACO jas been used.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:20 AM
4 hrs ago

Some of us have suggested it is counterproductive to ridicule him for finally doing the right thing.

WizumbODaSage

(15 posts)
9. OK..But If He Wears A Tan Suit or Melania Turns Out
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:24 AM
2 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Apr 8, 2026, 03:15 AM - Edit history (3)

to ... ... ... HUSH YO MOUTH! we hound him to his grave!

Ms. Toad

(38,667 posts)
13. Tan suit yes, Melania turns out to be a man - NO.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:38 AM
2 hrs ago

Ridiculing someone for being in a relationship with a trans person is trans hostile.

WizumbODaSage

(15 posts)
15. I'm Talkin' 'Bout MAGA'S Post Pres Treatment of Obama
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 03:01 AM
2 hrs ago

...and assumin' y'all could dig it .. 😊

fujiyamasan

(1,764 posts)
12. Do you really think he's doing the "right" thing by manipulating markets
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:37 AM
2 hrs ago

Or issuing constant threats in the first place?

He should be ridiculed for absolutely everything. I agree that it’s good he didn’t go through with “threatening to wipe out a civilization”. That’s a no brainer. Commiting genocide isn’t a good thing and no is saying he should have gone through with it.

That’s also completely besides the point. The reality is no one believes he’ll follow through with anything anyways. He did this exactly one year ago, and then backtracked once he saw how the markets reacted. This makes this country completely untrustworthy.

As his defense secretary has said, no quarter.

Fuck him. He never does the right thing. How about not issuing threats of genocide in the first place? Is the bar that low now?

pat_k

(13,419 posts)
2. The THREATS are WAR CRIMES too
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:21 AM
4 hrs ago
Measures of intimidation or terrorism against the civilian population are prohibited, including acts or threats of violence, the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population.


See LymphocyteLover's post HERE

It bears repeating:
Acts or THREATS

Department of Defense Law of War Manual (pages 189-190, left panel thumbnails 217-218)

§ 5.5.2 Essentially Negative Duties to Respect Civilians and to Refrain From Directing Military Operations Against Them. In general, military operations must not be directed against enemy civilians. In particular:

• Civilians must not be made the object of attack;

• Military objectives may not be attacked when the expected incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, and damage to civilian objects would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage expected to be gained;

• Civilians must not be used as shields or as hostages;

• Measures of intimidation or terrorism against the civilian population are prohibited, including acts or threats of violence, the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population.



Keep in mind that Trump's threats communicated in his tweets are themselves war crimes.

Scott Horton (@robertscotthorton.bsky.social) 2026-04-07T13:00:03.889Z

Jack Valentino

(5,084 posts)
4. I'm not a lawyer, so I won't dispute your supposition....
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:24 AM
4 hrs ago

but I like the arguments you presented!

stopdiggin

(15,487 posts)
3. quite apart from the fact that taunting the psychopath
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:23 AM
4 hrs ago

was probably never terribly clever in the first place.
(regardless the particular scenario - or self gratification involved)

1WorldHope

(2,069 posts)
5. He should be removed from office for making the statement.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:24 AM
4 hrs ago

Among the thousand other reasons that came before. He must be confined as soon as possible and removed from office. My god this has gone too far for too long!

Jack Valentino

(5,084 posts)
6. YES, he SHOULD HAVE been removed from office LONG ago, but too many Republicans
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:28 AM
4 hrs ago

and self-proclaimed 'christians' have been WORSHIPPING THEIR ANTICHRIST
for far too long !!!!!!


HesNotHere

(26 posts)
7. He put himself into a lose/lose situation with his ludicrous, reckless threats
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:56 AM
3 hrs ago

Ok, so maybe there was a magical chance that he would scare Iranians into full capitulation with his bluffs, but otherwise, he either war crimes or runs. He deserves absolute ridicule because he alone started this thing and made it like a gameshow with his tweets, while pumping/dumping the market repeatedly.

WizumbODaSage

(15 posts)
11. He Also Met His Match. Messianic Islamists Who
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:35 AM
2 hrs ago

Kill 7000 Protestors Aren't Gonna Go All Wobbly When the Loudmouth from Queens Waves a Stick At Em! Too bad the first days bombing was so successful. Maybe it would have been better if the Mullahs had been kidnapped en masse, locked in a secret bunker with 24 hour blaring recordings of Barney Frank, Pete Buttigieg, AOC, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders for six months then we could have run 'em as Democrats in the midterms!

Justice matters.

(9,827 posts)
8. Not sure the late-night comedians will do that...
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:14 AM
2 hrs ago

Just watched Jimmy Kimmel expose the orange war criminal and kid rapist with a big taco joke.

LeftInTX

(34,375 posts)
10. I don't think he was planning to follow through with this.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:29 AM
2 hrs ago

I think much of this was a "save face" deal which had been going on for several days under the veil of these threats.

DallasNE

(8,011 posts)
14. When I Read That B-52's Had Left The UK I Smelled A Rat
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:39 AM
2 hrs ago

I expected that the B-2's would be the primary bombers used and took that as the first clue that it was TACO time. All TACO time means to me is that Trump ran another bluff, and everybody now knows this is how Trump operates, so the tactic is meaningless - look at the Iran response.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,670 posts)
16. Iran isn't the only one being threatened with bombardment I'm sure.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 03:40 AM
1 hr ago

I think he may finally be catching hell from those that have his ear. The billionaires, the Arab nations, some Republican "leadership". Television and radio pundits.

I guess he can get away with shooting somebody on 5th Ave. But don't mess with our oil supply or stock market and definitely don't praise Allah if you don't mean it.

Cosmocat

(15,430 posts)
17. Its simplistic messaging
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 04:40 AM
32 min ago

I totally get your point, personally view it the way you do.

But the VAST majority of our fellow countrymen and women are not as discerning as we are.

And Rs have LONG known that and used it to their advantage.

TACO is a simple and snappy quip people get and can agree on.

Dems have to get with the times and go this route A LOT more.

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