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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums29 yr old employee burns down Calif Kimberly Clark toilet paper warehouse "All you had to do was pay us enough to live"
This warehouse provides toilet paper for millions!!https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/ontario-warehouse-fire-video/3873376/
Video shows someone intentionally setting fires at Ontario warehouse
Chamel Abdul Karim, 29, of Highland, was arrested on suspicion of arson in connection with the fire.
The employee suspected of starting an arson fire at a paper products warehouse in Ontario remains behind bars as new video on social media appears to show someone intentionally starting multiple fires at the site.
A video thats circulated online shows several fires being purposely started at the Kimberly-Clark Corporation warehouse as the person filming and starting the fire discusses their salary.
All you had to do was pay us enough to live, the person recording the video can be heard saying multiple times.
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Sneederbunk
(17,535 posts)reportedly he will be receiving free room and board.
ornotna
(11,506 posts)His biggest concern now will be, what color are the beans tonight?
EdmondDantes_
(1,836 posts)Just wait until he sees his prison job wage. Oh and his coworkers are also out a job.
OC375
(1,004 posts)Pay is worse, prices are higher. Good luck.
dalton99a
(94,365 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,351 posts)The facility, a massive 1.2 million-square-foot warehouse operated by a third-party logistics partner for the global hygiene giant Kimberly-Clark, quickly became the site of one of the most significant industrial fires in San Bernardino Countys history. Within minutes of arriving, the Ontario Fire Department upgraded the incident to a six-alarm fire, a designation reserved for only the most severe emergencies requiring massive regional resources.
The structure was packed floor-to-ceiling with highly flammable paper productsbrands synonymous with household hygiene such as Huggies, Kleenex, and Scott. These products acted as high-octane fuel for the blaze, allowing the fire to spread through the nearly 30-acre facility at an uncontrollable rate. By 1:00 a.m., the heat was so intense that it compromised the buildings structural integrity, leading to a catastrophic roof collapse and forcing firefighters into a defensive surround and drown strategy to protect neighboring structures.
JBTaurus83
(1,468 posts)Response to JBTaurus83 (Reply #5)
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Gaugamela
(3,537 posts)irisblue
(37,573 posts)Skittles
(171,881 posts)Mangione is a demented fucking gun humping murderer and this arsonist fucker was risking lives because he was upset. NEITHER IS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR.
LeftInTX
(34,396 posts)Lochloosa
(16,746 posts)log in three hours later only to review thread to see my response is taken.
"you know the plant cleaned up well"
"that will leave a stain"
"the clean up effort was a bit messy"
NONE ARE BETTER!!! DAMN YOU!!!!!!
mahatmakanejeeves
(70,007 posts)Brother Buzz
(39,964 posts)I suspect the fires being started at multiple points might have had something to do with it.
popsdenver
(2,341 posts)is to devote engines (pumpers) to laying in with LDH (Large) hose, and connecting to the sprinklers outdoor connections to massively boost the water supply to the sprinkler system. When well involved on arrival, I would think that the FD would go to an immediate 'Surround and Drown" defensive attack with Aerials, rather than commit any firefighters to an interior attack........
leftstreet
(40,887 posts)unbelievable
Sneederbunk
(17,535 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,351 posts)Botany
(77,428 posts)Once you get fire & rescue rolling including law enforcement you are putting peoples lives
endanger add that to the fire on or within a structure or structures and its dangers too.
Arthur_Frain
(2,375 posts)The rich have become too rich (obscenely so) and the poor have become too poor, and too numerous. Enough people in that poor pool and sure enough, youll get a good number performing irrational acts.
Thing is, the rich are getting richer, faster than ever, and theyre pulling the rug out from under the poor folks to get as much as they possibly can. I dont remember seeing it quite this voracious, without any care for the optics before.
not fooled
(6,692 posts)so every prole can be monitored, controlled and dealt with appropriately.
See: f-eloon's theft of government data, aggregation of all government data on every 'Murican, 666thiel666's palantir's work etc.
UpInArms
(55,022 posts)Paper products:
Angelsoft, Brawny, Dixie, Mardi Gras, Quilted Northern, Soft n Gentle, Sparkle, Vanity Fair
© Koch Brothers' Products Insteading
Source: https://insteading.com/blog/koch-brothers-products/
Justice matters.
(9,834 posts)while most stadiums look scarcely occupied... it's obscene!
Initech
(108,860 posts)The US hasn't been the same since the Fairness Doctrine was abolished.
Emile
(42,398 posts)JBTaurus83
(1,468 posts)So take it for what it is I suppose. Not terrible for many parts of the country, but probably not getting you far in California. I dont know anything about cost of living in that specific area.
Based on data as of early 2026, warehouse workers at the Kimberly-Clark distribution center in Ontario, California, generally earn hourly wages ranging from $19 to $28 per hour.
Glassdoor
Key Wage and Position Details
Warehouse Operator (Ontario, CA): The average hourly pay for operators in the Ontario facility is approximately $22.12.
Warehouse Associate (US): Average hourly pay for associates is reported around $15.11 to $22 depending on the reporting source, with some experiencing higher ranges.
Forklift Operator: Reported rates for forklift operators average around $15.31 to $18.23 per hour.
Material Handler: Reported hourly rates for this position are around $12.98 to $17.
Overall Warehouse Roles: In the Ontario area, the average base salary for general warehouse workers is approximately $19.74 per hour, with opportunities for overtime.
Indeed
Additional Compensation
Bonuses & Profit Sharing: Some employees receive annual bonuses ($4K$7K) and profit sharing ($4K$8K).
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,351 posts)50k...deductions would leave a person with take home of $3000 per month??? Landlord might not rent to that income. Couple making 50k each would be able to make it.
MichMan
(17,179 posts)Seems like that was exactly what Barbara Lee was campaigning on when she was running for US Senate.
EX500rider
(12,611 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,351 posts)Ontario Market Snapshot
Average 1-Bedroom Rent is $2,029/mo
Up 0.7% From Last Year
Apartments for Rent in Ontario CA - 1,014 Rentals | Apartments.com https://share.google/lI8APVlJsjUK8vdIp
JBTaurus83
(1,468 posts)Here in Philly most office workers such as myself make between 45-75k per year which is also pretty tight when renting an apartment or buying a little 800 sq ft row home. The American Dream sure doesnt pan out much anymore.
Nigrum Cattus
(1,330 posts)Who ever ran the warehouse was crazy to have that much
very flammable material that close together. I've been in
the Kimberly Clark T.P. manufacturing building where they
make the rolls. I had to go thru a 1 hour orientation with their
internal fire fighters just to go into the facility to bid some
construction work. They took fire safety very very seriously.
hunter
(40,726 posts)... after I was "asked" to take time off from college because I was crazy. Literally.
From there I graduated to moving furniture which paid better. The first time I made $100 in a day was moving furniture. Some of the guys I worked with were crazier than I was. Some had never even considered college.
That's $28.55 an hour today. My rent was $210, which is $830 today.
Gasoline was free. (Not really, but it was nothing I worried about.)
It wasn't union work, and I had no assurances of continuing employment, but my employers were certainly fearful the unions would come to town and figured if they treated us well enough we'd reject unionization.
Things have changed for the worse. I blame Reagan for that and a lot of other bad things.
Sure, I was privileged white guy living in an affluent city.
Everyone should be so privileged.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,351 posts)Kimberly-Clark warehouse workers in the US earn an average of approximately $23$26.45 per hour, with rates often falling between $19 and $29 per hour depending on location and experience. Specialized roles like forklift operators or leads can earn over $26-$27 per hour.
Warehouse Pay Breakdown (Approximate):
Average Warehouse Worker: $26.45/hr
Material Handler: $26.50/hr
Forklift Operator: $26.61/hr
Warehouse Lead: $27.86/hr
Packer: $26.04/hr
Key Details:
Location Impact: Rates vary by region, with high-cost areas like California potentially paying more.
Benefits: Positions often include comprehensive benefits, often reported as competitive with the industry.
Data Source: These figures are based on user-submitted data to sites like Indeed and Glassdoor as of early 2026.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,465 posts)synni
(780 posts)Hurting innocent people who also don't get paid well isn't the way to settle a pay dispute. Prices are already skyrocketing because of this administration. This is the last thing people need, when they're struggling to get from paycheck to paycheck.
LudwigPastorius
(14,778 posts)JoseBalow
(9,528 posts)You have nothing to lose but your chains.
LeftInTX
(34,396 posts)PatrickforB
(15,434 posts)While I do not condone arson, Americans are furious about the costs of healthcare, childcare, forever student loans and getting nickel and dimed to death while people like Michael Hsu, Kimberly Clark's CEO, 'earned' $15.32 million last year, and the basic worker in a warehouse earns less than a living wage. Whole swaths of our labor force earn barely enough to live while these Wall Street financiers, corporate greedheads and billionaire parasites live so high on the hog they think they are above the law.
We feel the immoral nature of these elites, their raw and brutal greed, every time we go to work.
It would be so easy for our species to organize ourselves so everyone's work has meaning and everyone has enough. So easy. But no, we must have greed. We are ruled by few greedy and evil men, men who have risen to the top of the heap in a toxic, brutal corporate culture that encourages and rewards sociopathy.
Instead, billions around the world are wage slaves. 3.5 billion live in poverty, and of those 900 million live in extreme poverty. Every minute on this sacred earth, seventeen human beings DIE of hunger and related causes. Seventeen a minute.
It is time we start standing up forcefully against this shit and get rid of the billionaires, change the rules of corporate governance so workers, consumers and the earth are held equal to shareholder profits. Because right now, shareholder profits are king.
Why does it have to be this way?
Saturday April 11 - we are called upon to participate with the Pope in a prayer vigil for peace.
Friday May 1 - we are called upon to participate in a GENERAL STRIKE. No buying, no work, no school.
oasis
(53,734 posts)Given his level of intelligence, how much did he expect to be paid?
He can educate himself in the prison library.
Jacson6
(2,031 posts)oasis
(53,734 posts)wrong. A person has that knowledge before entering kindergarten.