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mike_c

(37,068 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:27 PM 7 hrs ago

it seems to me that promising pardons...

...in advance of wrong-doing undermines the reasons for allowing presidential pardons in the first place, and could legally be construed as conspiracy.

Wink, wink, "You can violate any laws, because I'll give you a blanket pardon." Of course, anyone who relies on promises from TSF is a moron, but that's another matter.

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sop

(18,772 posts)
1. "The President may not make clemency subject to a condition that is prohibited by another constitutional provision."
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:47 PM
7 hrs ago

'Overview of Pardon Power' (https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013316/)

I believe many of the crimes Trump would seek to pardon are for violations of the fundamental constitutional rights of others. 'Schick v. Reed' (1974) (419 U.S. 256) confirmed that while conditions can be attached, they (a president's pardon power) cannot "offend the Constitution."

mike_c

(37,068 posts)
2. given that he's already pardoned quite a few people...
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:57 PM
6 hrs ago

...legitimately convicted of crimes like fraud, drug smuggling, etc, that would seem a low bar. I think presidential pardon power should safeguard against miscarriages of justice, due process failures, excessive punishment, and so on. Offering pardons as "get out of jail free" cards in advance, to circumvent laws and ethics, seems like a cornerstone of conspiracy to me.

sop

(18,772 posts)
3. Pardoning Bondi, Noem, Bovino and others for crimes that involved the violation of people's basic constitutional
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 04:10 PM
6 hrs ago

rights may not be covered by Trump's pardon power. It will be interesting to see if the next president's AG will seek accountability for such crimes, even though Trump has issued pardons.

doc03

(39,096 posts)
4. The SCOTUS made Trump pretty much immune to any prosicution. The SOBs entire family is involved
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:44 PM
5 hrs ago

in one criminal enterprise after another and are guaranteed immunity. Imagine how much they will profit from
this after three more years. Trump's wealth has quadrupled in the last year.

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