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senseandsensibility

(25,070 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:47 PM 7 hrs ago

MSNOW laying out what evidence it has confirmed about Swalwell

Mychael Schnell told Alex Witt that she has spoken to the alleged victim who provided a medical report from a practitioner who called her a strong survivor (I guess in the report) and text messages. The text message that Schnell elaborated on was during the time frame of the alleged attack, but was not between Swalwell and the victim. It was between the victim and a friend, and the victim told the friend about the alleged attack.

I also wanted to add that MSNOW led with a videotaped, unilateral denial from Eric Swalwell. I did think that he seems sincere in his denial. But of course, that's subjective, and I really have no idea what to think at this point.

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MSNOW laying out what evidence it has confirmed about Swalwell (Original Post) senseandsensibility 7 hrs ago OP
I'm taking a wait an see approach MustLoveBeagles 7 hrs ago #1
Well said, friend Grim Chieftain 6 hrs ago #3
Also the Rapist PEDO in the Damaged WH... Cha 6 hrs ago #12
I know, and it just makes me soooooooo pissed. a kennedy 5 hrs ago #20
I am also sitting back and collecting data.... FarPoint 6 hrs ago #6
Particularly as Kash Patel in on record Retrograde 6 hrs ago #7
To believe this was republican ratfuckery requires suspension of reality Fiendish Thingy 4 hrs ago #23
I thought I heard them say one alleged incident was only a couple of years ago at a hotel in NYC. There should Vinca 7 hrs ago #2
Most places don't keep their security videos for years. LisaL 5 hrs ago #16
The truth will prevail. Soon, I think. Joinfortmill 6 hrs ago #4
About the instance in the hotel room, does the woman claim they were both too drunk? Katinfl 6 hrs ago #5
The problem is that it is impossible (literally) to prove one didn't do something. So the burden is on the "victim," SheltieLover 6 hrs ago #8
I didn't know that that about Kash Patel MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #10
Just read it in another thread. SheltieLover 6 hrs ago #11
Yeah MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #14
I must have missed something along the way, but fargone 5 hrs ago #17
Isn't some of the "evidence" texts? SheltieLover 5 hrs ago #18
Thanks. If texts are involved I missed that. fargone 5 hrs ago #21
... SheltieLover 3 hrs ago #27
Meanwhjle, Trump was found liable for sexual assault and the Republicans did not call for him to Redleg 6 hrs ago #9
I want so much for this not to be true but after reading the whole CNN article -Yikes. Marie Marie 6 hrs ago #13
Yeah. This is no Franken situation. druidity33 5 hrs ago #19
He needs to drop out so focus moonscape 4 hrs ago #24
All of this was in the original SF Chronicle article WhiskeyGrinder 6 hrs ago #15
Thank you for your opposition to this "wait and see" bullshit. hunter 4 hrs ago #22
That would make one wonder if she had been drugged. MichMan 4 hrs ago #25
Sure sounds like it to me LeftInTX 2 hrs ago #28
I have an old fashioned attachment to the presumption of innocence. TomSlick 3 hrs ago #26

MustLoveBeagles

(16,647 posts)
1. I'm taking a wait an see approach
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:52 PM
7 hrs ago

I'm not calling anyone a liar but Democrats have been ratfucked too many times for me to take it on faith.

Grim Chieftain

(1,825 posts)
3. Well said, friend
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:58 PM
6 hrs ago

Right there with you.

And did you notice, the rules only apply to Democrats, not to them? Case in point, the felon in chief.


FarPoint

(14,821 posts)
6. I am also sitting back and collecting data....
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 04:15 PM
6 hrs ago

No Knee jerk response for me....He has done us well in politics so far....so, no rush...I can't control the lynch mob mentality.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,370 posts)
23. To believe this was republican ratfuckery requires suspension of reality
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:59 PM
4 hrs ago

The earliest allegation dates to 2019, meaning republicans would have had to plant an operative on Swallwell’s staff six years before he decided to run for governor.

Republicans would have also had to have planted three other staffers to make “false” accusations, and also plant four staffers to work faithfully until this week, and then quit once the news broke.

Republicans may take advantage of this scandal, but they didn’t create it.

Vinca

(54,071 posts)
2. I thought I heard them say one alleged incident was only a couple of years ago at a hotel in NYC. There should
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:52 PM
7 hrs ago

be a record of both parties staying at the hotel and maybe security video at least showing them walking through the lobby. Something concrete to at least put them in the same place.

Katinfl

(845 posts)
5. About the instance in the hotel room, does the woman claim they were both too drunk?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 04:12 PM
6 hrs ago

I read where she said she was too drunk so I don’t know if he was also.

SheltieLover

(80,913 posts)
8. The problem is that it is impossible (literally) to prove one didn't do something. So the burden is on the "victim,"
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 04:28 PM
6 hrs ago

and pls remember it is easy to spoof phone numbers. ruskie are especially great at hacking.

I've read Manson Eyes patel has been "looking for dirt on Swalwell," so maybe he manufactured some...

Smells like rat fuckery to me and, imo, repukes have NO room to point fingers as their party leader is an adjudicated rapist and 34-count felon.

Tell them to fuck off.

SheltieLover

(80,913 posts)
11. Just read it in another thread.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 04:42 PM
6 hrs ago

Sorry, I can't recall which one.

Swalwell has been very outspoken about Kraznov, hence, this dirty attack, imo.

fargone

(629 posts)
17. I must have missed something along the way, but
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:00 PM
5 hrs ago

I don't understand how the ease of spoofing phone numbers is related.

SheltieLover

(80,913 posts)
18. Isn't some of the "evidence" texts?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:07 PM
5 hrs ago

Could be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure I read that.

What a nest of rat fuckery.

Bottom line is Swalwell has bn outspoken about kraznov, hence this dirty attack, imo.

I do not live in CA, so I don't get to vote there. Jmho.

fargone

(629 posts)
21. Thanks. If texts are involved I missed that.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:21 PM
5 hrs ago

So the texts could be corroborated or denied by the person being spoofed if spoofing was happening.

Redleg

(6,957 posts)
9. Meanwhjle, Trump was found liable for sexual assault and the Republicans did not call for him to
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 04:40 PM
6 hrs ago

end his candidacy nor are they calling on his to resign from office. The so-called "party of personal responsibility."

Marie Marie

(11,355 posts)
13. I want so much for this not to be true but after reading the whole CNN article -Yikes.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 04:52 PM
6 hrs ago

And it is the number of women making these claims and they are not random. Most started by admiring him and some worked for him. I hope it can be proven false but I just don't know.

druidity33

(6,923 posts)
19. Yeah. This is no Franken situation.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:09 PM
5 hrs ago

He should resign. I hope he drops out of the primary, though i don't think it will matter. He's toast.



WhiskeyGrinder

(27,014 posts)
15. All of this was in the original SF Chronicle article
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 04:53 PM
6 hrs ago
https://archive.ph/IDj4E

Five years later, the woman said, she attended an April 2024 charity gala where Swalwell was honored. The woman, who no longer worked for Swalwell, said they met for drinks afterward, during which she became so inebriated that she remembers only snippets of the night, including pushing Swalwell away and telling him, “No,” while he allegedly forced himself on her.

The woman texted a friend three days later that she was “sexually assaulted” by Swalwell. She wrote in a series of messages reviewed by the Chronicle that she had “blacked out” but “woke up once during it and even told him to stop at one point.”

“This happened one other time when I was working with him, but I convinced myself I was an equal party in it even though same pattern: I blacked out and he had sex with me,” she wrote, referring to the 2019 incident.

The Chronicle spoke with the friend and the woman’s then-boyfriend, whom she said she told about the alleged 2024 assault when she got home the next day. Both described her as still disoriented that morning, and her then-boyfriend said he encouraged her to report Swalwell to the police.

hunter

(40,741 posts)
22. Thank you for your opposition to this "wait and see" bullshit.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:58 PM
4 hrs ago

It's making me so angry I can hardly type.



This is a job he's applying for. I don't want him working for me. It's as simple as that.

"Wait and see" is for when he's tried in court. If he ever is.

Apparently a lot of very respectable California Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi, agree.

MichMan

(17,198 posts)
25. That would make one wonder if she had been drugged.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:10 PM
4 hrs ago

In both instances she claims to have "blacked out" before a sexual assault

TomSlick

(13,028 posts)
26. I have an old fashioned attachment to the presumption of innocence.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:29 PM
3 hrs ago

If there is credible evidence of rape, Swalwell should be charged and a jury decide if the evidence overcomes the presumption of innocence.

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