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Aaron Rupar
@atrupar.com
Trump: "You want to see a stock market go down? Let a couple nuclear bombs be dropped on us, then you'll see a stock market go down. So the stock market has not gone very much at all. It's gone down a little bit. Much less than I thought. And frankly the gas hasn't gone up as much as I thought."
Trump: "You want to see a stock market go down? Let a couple nuclear bombs be dropped on us, then you'll see a stock market go down. So the stock market has not gone very much at all. It's gone down a little bit. Much less than I thought. And frankly the gas hasn't gone up as much as I thought."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-04-12T14:35:44.130Z
dalton99a
(94,474 posts)Johonny
(26,287 posts)And I don't understand the stock market, the commodies market, and have no idea how oil and gas are related. I also don't understand intercontinental ballistic missiles, nuclear bombs, or basically anything else in the world. I'm a fucking moron. But this will all be over in two weeks. And it's Biden's fault. He left me a mess.
Miles Archer
(23,534 posts)...the NEWS MEDIA could affect public opinion, which would "potentially" lead to increased pressure on Congress, which could "potentially" lead to impeachment.
I don't believe there's a snowball's chance in hell of Trump's cabinet wading into the 25th Amendment waters. Zero chance.
But if we survive the midterms and pick up seats, Republicans will be thinking of their own self-interests, their own political futures, while a lame duck madman rages on and is on track to sink them all like rocks.
The news media could escalate this, if they weren't preoccupied with planting soft, wet, gentle kisses all over Trump's ass.
RandomNumbers
(19,191 posts)Unfortunately I might be changing my opinion about Vance being less bad. (thanks to astute posters on DU who have raised excellent points. Sorry I can't link, didn't bookmark)
How the fuck do we come out of this with even a shred of decency as a country? (or without even worse catastrophe, which appears more and more likely)
I don't think we can make it to 2028 like this. With the SC acting as lapdogs ... and the levers of power in control of the cabal pulling TSF's strings ... how do we come out of it sooner?
Miles Archer
(23,534 posts)I don't think Vance has enough juice in the party to shepherd Trump's cabinet through the 25th Amendment process.
I don't think Republicans will sign up for impeachment BEFORE the midterms, because they'll be terrified of a primary challenge from Trump.
I posted this a few days ago...he is sitting on a half-billion dollar "war chest." Popular opinion is that he's just going to pocket it all.
But...
...if the Republicans rose up against him, he COULD crush them with that cash.
Metaphorical
(2,645 posts)He never has. The stock market may react very fast to volatile news, but most of that's noise - it's not, and has never been, all that efficient as a prediction market. We will really start to see the effects next month, as oil that's in transit runs out and we begin to eat significantly into reserves; foreign oil arrivals in the US will drop by about 20% this week as the last of what's already in transit arrives, and we will start seeing gasoline in the $8 to $10 a gallon range by the first of May. Electronics prices are now spiking (delivery of rare earths that go through Hormuz are in the same trajectory) , food prices are definitely up, and will go up considerably more. China is going to start getting more aggressive, because they have the same requirements that we do (and smaller reserves), and we could see the Chinese actively breaking up US blockade efforts. The US will likely be under Chinese tariff interdiction by summer.
The Bretton Woods accords made the dollar the US Reserve currency for oil transactions. It's dead now. This means that the world no longer has to invest in the US (treasuries, equities, land, etc.) in order to get oil. It's going to be chaotic for a while, but I expect we'll end up with a spot bucket consisting of multiple currencies determining the price of oil within a year, with the US having very little say in the matter. We're already seeing some erosion in the markets as foreign investment in the stock markets dries up and countries start liquidating their US holdings. This is going to accelerate. The crash will come by mid-summer, right before the mid-terms.
This isn't rocket science - even this ignorant bunch can run these numbers, they know what's coming, they know there's not a damn thing they can do about. Trump screwed the pooch.
Renew Deal
(85,240 posts)And didnt refill the strategic petroleum reserves before doing it?
Someone should ask him how high he thought gas would go and how low he thought the stock market would go. Also ask him if it has bottomed out or will get worse.
Thats besides the fact that his own staff said that Iran was not a nuclear threat. And if thats a concern, why doesnt he go disarm NK, Russia, and China?
DFW
(60,269 posts)And the only stock that will be worth anything will be one that grants you access to a vast bunker system five miles underground with energy, oxygen, food, waste removal/recycling, medical facilities and intellectual stimulation to last ten or twenty years.