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lostincalifornia

(5,412 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:48 AM 11 hrs ago

Trump's actions on the blockage of the strait of hormuz appear that he is telling any country who negotiated with Iran

to allow their ships through the strait whether for a toll or not, will be blocked by the U.S.

From those countries perspective wouldn't that be viewed as an act of war?

From the US perspective it is that the strait is in international waters, and any blockade is illegal.

The problem of course is what happens when the US tries to stop a Russian or Chinese ship?

It is becoming clear to most people that this war was a war of choice, and not the imminent threat that was pushed by this administration, and certain elements of the media.

This was highlighted by several high ranking people, one of who was Joe Kent, a retired Army special operations combat veteran, and was Director of the National Counter terrorism Center resignation as a protest against trump's war with Iran, arguing that it was driven by foreign influence and NOT an imminent threat to the U.S.

His resignation resulted in reports that the FBI was conducting a leak investigation into Kent regarding the Iran war prior to his departure.

What seems to be ignored by many of the MSM was that it was during trump's first term where he unilaterally disbanded and walked away from the Iran nuclear deal, which immediately caused removal of inspectors from Iran.

If that agreement wasn't disbanded by the U.S., it could have been the basis for negotiations with the second trump administrations to address the flaws in the first agreement, but instead, the U.S. unilaterally commenced bombing what it said were Iran's nuclear sites during negotiations, with the WH saying "mission accomplished", and that threat had been removed.

As most of us remember a few months later trump threatened military actions against Iran, because of what the trump administration said was the nuclear threat Iran poised, in spite of saying that threat had been removed after the first bombing of Iran nuclear sites.

Again negotiations resumed with Iran and the trump administration, but instead of continuing where the first Iran nuclear agreement left off as a basis for negotiations, started to negotiate a new agreement with Iran. It was during these second negotiations that trump was amassing our military in the region, and without consulting NATO, or our allies, the trump administration unilaterally started the widespread bombing of Iran.

While it would be foolhardy to trust Iran under its existing government without verification, based on the actions and history of this administration, the U.S. also is not a trustworthy party. After all, they attacked Iran unilaterally twice during negotiations with them.

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Trump's actions on the blockage of the strait of hormuz appear that he is telling any country who negotiated with Iran (Original Post) lostincalifornia 11 hrs ago OP
Freedom of navigation is what Trump says dalton99a 11 hrs ago #1
I assume this is an attempt to bankrupt Iran Johonny 11 hrs ago #2
+1. There will be an Iranian migration problem, similar to Venezuela and Syria dalton99a 11 hrs ago #4
I think you are right, that is a big factor for him. lostincalifornia 10 hrs ago #9
Break the blockade by blockading the blockade leftstreet 11 hrs ago #3
Trump can't resist a juicy extortion scheme. C_U_L8R 11 hrs ago #5
China and the Pacific Rim will be pissed Norbert 11 hrs ago #6
Ah yes, a truly revolutionary contribution to human thought. Adeptus2272 10 hrs ago #7
Disaster Capitalism required a fresh disaster to exploit. nt BWdem4life 10 hrs ago #8
He admires Iran's passage scam... lame54 9 hrs ago #10
And keep the money for... Justice matters. 8 hrs ago #11
All countries must pay in Trump bucks lame54 8 hrs ago #12
But the self deluded Mob Boss doesn't obey any laws. We need to start blaming MAGA for everything. ChicagoTeamster 8 hrs ago #13
If Trump is blocking traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, it..... OGBuzz 8 hrs ago #14

dalton99a

(94,474 posts)
1. Freedom of navigation is what Trump says
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:51 AM
11 hrs ago

The law of the sea, the law of war - laws mean nothing to him

Johonny

(26,287 posts)
2. I assume this is an attempt to bankrupt Iran
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:52 AM
11 hrs ago

And get the people of Iran to suffer so much they overthrow the government. Most likely this leads to a refugee crisis the likes of which the world hasn't seen in a while. Meanwhile, he is also fucking our allies over.

As always, we have to wait and see how Mr. Stock Market responds. It seems to be the only thing he cares about. Stock prices, ballrooms, and arches. That's it.

Norbert

(7,802 posts)
6. China and the Pacific Rim will be pissed
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:31 AM
11 hrs ago

we are becoming a bigger pariah nation every day.

Prediction is China will become the biggest superpower in the world simply because of the ineptitude of the USA's moronic leaders.

Justice matters.

(9,851 posts)
11. And keep the money for...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:38 PM
8 hrs ago

HIMSELF because enough is never enough.



Obscene that the Emoluments clause is in the shredder.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,028 posts)
13. But the self deluded Mob Boss doesn't obey any laws. We need to start blaming MAGA for everything.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:55 PM
8 hrs ago

The way they try to blame Obama and Biden for everything we need to blame MAGA for everything.

Trump's administration is a daily onslaught of surprise problems caused by his policies that have no rational basis.
He was put in power by racists who only cared that he was going to deport brown people and end DEI and harass LGBTQ people.

Other than the billionaires who expected to get tax refunds and rebates along with government contracts, the stupid MAGA racists never expected to get anything other than hurting people they hated. Now they're losing their healthcare and their jobs.

But the rest of us are being affected as well.

We need to start pointing that out to them every day. Our MAGA co-workers, associates (used to be friends) and blood relatives (used to be family) need to have this shoved in their faces every day.

They voted for this. They're the ones who constantly reposted memes about Epstein's client list. Now their hero doesn't want to release the Epstein files and Netanyahu blackmailed him with Epstein Kompromat to drag the US into Israel's war with Iran.

OGBuzz

(371 posts)
14. If Trump is blocking traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, it.....
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:56 PM
8 hrs ago

means that he has sent navy ships to the Gulf of Oman, near the exit from the Strait, well within the range of Iranian drones, rockets, and ballistic missiles. What could go wrong?

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