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PeaceWave

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) PeaceWave 9 hrs ago OP
. WhiskeyGrinder 9 hrs ago #1
Oh please n/t leftstreet 9 hrs ago #2
The editorial we is doing a lot of heavy lifting DemocratSinceBirth 5 hrs ago #22
So those receipts EdmondDantes_ 8 hrs ago #3
You think Swalwell would have no idea vanlassie 8 hrs ago #4
Again, if some unknown person accused me of rape, I'd have no idea EdmondDantes_ 8 hrs ago #7
This is a timed attack. This has Roger Stone vibes. vanlassie 7 hrs ago #9
Except that Swalwell's demise helps Democrats and hurts Republicans Jose Garcia 6 hrs ago #10
Conspiracy nonsense EdmondDantes_ 6 hrs ago #11
Victims only come out at the oddest times. vanlassie 6 hrs ago #12
"Victims only come out at the oddest times." Half the reason they do is because of sentiments like this one. WhiskeyGrinder 5 hrs ago #15
Yes, like Christine Blasey Ford right? EdmondDantes_ 5 hrs ago #17
It is easier when good guys are just good mr715 5 hrs ago #18
if this was a 'timed attack' it's pretty ill timed. mopinko 6 hrs ago #13
100% mr715 5 hrs ago #16
No mr715 5 hrs ago #14
Then DemocratSinceBirth 5 hrs ago #21
Californians decide for themselves duckworth969 8 hrs ago #5
I'm a Californian and having the opposite experience Sympthsical 8 hrs ago #6
I'm a californian too. Lifeafter70 7 hrs ago #8
SIGH DemocratSinceBirth 5 hrs ago #19
Time for openness is now. Kid Berwyn 5 hrs ago #20
Tough old world when people hold different opnions than ours. Torchlight 3 hrs ago #23

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,035 posts)
1. .
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:31 PM
9 hrs ago

leftstreet

(40,978 posts)
2. Oh please n/t
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:33 PM
9 hrs ago

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,908 posts)
22. The editorial we is doing a lot of heavy lifting
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:28 PM
5 hrs ago

EdmondDantes_

(1,905 posts)
3. So those receipts
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:37 PM
8 hrs ago

You mean like telling people about it at the time? Or maybe you mean the inappropriate texts? Or that multiple independent women accused him?Or that his staff thinks it checked out?

Or how about the receipt he brought in knowing exactly who to send cease and desists to in the middle of the night? If I was told someone I worked with accused me of assault I wouldn't have any idea who it was. Kind of awkward that he did.

vanlassie

(6,253 posts)
4. You think Swalwell would have no idea
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:39 PM
8 hrs ago

“Who” was fomenting a smear? Seriously?

EdmondDantes_

(1,905 posts)
7. Again, if some unknown person accused me of rape, I'd have no idea
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 02:13 PM
8 hrs ago

Would you know if an unnamed coworker were to accuse you?

If there was some cadre of employees conspiring against him and he knew, why not fire them before this point? Don't say he's too loyal to do that since he's apologized to his wife, so loyalty doesn't seem to be all that important.

vanlassie

(6,253 posts)
9. This is a timed attack. This has Roger Stone vibes.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 03:34 PM
7 hrs ago

It’s a textbook chapter in the GOP Book of Dirty Tricks.

I’m not saying you’re naive… but.

Jose Garcia

(3,517 posts)
10. Except that Swalwell's demise helps Democrats and hurts Republicans
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 03:41 PM
6 hrs ago

EdmondDantes_

(1,905 posts)
11. Conspiracy nonsense
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 03:42 PM
6 hrs ago

I'm not saying you don't believe victims who have corroboration because you are letting politics blind you, but...

vanlassie

(6,253 posts)
12. Victims only come out at the oddest times.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:13 PM
6 hrs ago

If you think dumping Al Franken the was it was done by DEMS was the way, you do you.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,035 posts)
15. "Victims only come out at the oddest times." Half the reason they do is because of sentiments like this one.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:39 PM
5 hrs ago

EdmondDantes_

(1,905 posts)
17. Yes, like Christine Blasey Ford right?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:57 PM
5 hrs ago

Took her years until he was nominated for the Supreme Court. Obviously to avoid being hypocritical she must have been a conspiracy cooked up by some shady Democrat right?

Yes Democrats dumped Franken because 8 different women accused him of inappropriate behavior. Several of them had corroboration from people they told at the time, and at least one was a Democratic staffer.

https://www.twincities.com/2017/12/07/al-franken-sexual-misconduct-allegations-timeline-senator-minnesota/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42258477

You can't link the other 7 women to a conspiracy run by Roger Stone. But you can claim it was all Roger Stone's fault if you need to do that because you can't believe victims because the accused is a "good" guy with the right political affiliation.

mr715

(3,672 posts)
18. It is easier when good guys are just good
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:11 PM
5 hrs ago

and bad guys are just bad.

Sometimes, sadly, "good guys" aren't really good.

It is important we view our elected representatives as expendable. Or at least transactional. There are a lot of skeletons in a lot of closets amongst the ambitious elite. If I don't know, shame on them. Once I find out and I excuse it? Shame on me.

Roger Stone? Red herring. Misdirect. As relevant as the type of liquor used to date rape somebody.

mopinko

(73,770 posts)
13. if this was a 'timed attack' it's pretty ill timed.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:33 PM
6 hrs ago

the rt time wd b after he won the primary, not while ppl can make a different choice.
i’d say that’s the timing the survivors wanted. while there’s still time to avoid disaster.
that’s y they came forward NOW.

mr715

(3,672 posts)
16. 100%
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:46 PM
5 hrs ago

This is a good thing for the Democratic brand. We do not elect rapists.

mr715

(3,672 posts)
14. No
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:37 PM
5 hrs ago

This helps Democrats. This hurts Swalwell (and his family).

If this were a dirty trick, the simplest agent would be Steyer or Porter.

This is an arrogant man getting taken down by his arrogance.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,908 posts)
21. Then
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:22 PM
5 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Then why is Alvin Bragg, the district attorney who secured 34 felony convictions against Trump, investigating him and setting up a tip line for alleged victims to come forward.

duckworth969

(1,371 posts)
5. Californians decide for themselves
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 02:00 PM
8 hrs ago

No ones call but theirs.

Sympthsical

(10,995 posts)
6. I'm a Californian and having the opposite experience
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 02:06 PM
8 hrs ago

Everyone I've spoken to in my Bay Area circle of friends is disgusted with the man.

One imagines the anecdotal will succumb to polling in short order.

Lifeafter70

(1,061 posts)
8. I'm a californian too.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 02:42 PM
7 hrs ago

And there were 3 other supporters for him in my household. But no longer.
We all believe the women.
Time for him to tell the truth and move on.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,908 posts)
19. SIGH
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:17 PM
5 hrs ago

So the vague online rumors about Mr. Swalwell were easier for supporters to dismiss as dirty politics — until the accounts landed with searing detail.

They described a former staff member who said Mr. Swalwell’s assault left her with bruises and vaginal bleeding. Another woman said he had touched her thigh and tried to kiss her during a night of heavy drinking together that ended in a hotel room. Two other women said Mr. Swalwell sent them unsolicited photos of his penis.

When Mr. Swalwell learned what the news outlets planned to publish, he scrambled early Friday morning to call leaders of the groups that had endorsed him, according to two people familiar with the calls. The forthcoming news reports, he told them, were false.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/12/us/california-democrats-eric-swalwell.html


Kid Berwyn

(24,587 posts)
20. Time for openness is now.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:18 PM
5 hrs ago

Accused.
Accuser.
Facts.
Evidence.

And not in, nor necessarily, that order.

Torchlight

(6,891 posts)
23. Tough old world when people hold different opnions than ours.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:27 PM
3 hrs ago

But it rarely means they're convictiing anyone... jsut holding different opnions. It's a tough old world.


Piecewave: Californians don't convict our own in the court of public opinion. We're too smart...
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