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Botany

(77,484 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:20 AM 7 hrs ago

What we really don't need and what we really do need.

What we don’t need:

Artificial Intelligence and its climate wrecking energy sucking data centers.

What we really do need:

Real Intelligence and renewable clean and green energy. Especially green energy that is made at
homes, businesses, schools, and farms.

What we don’t need:

Non native invasive species such as pear trees, English ivy, burning bush, Norway maples, eucalyptus
(California fire bombs), barberry, Colorado Blue Spruce planted in the east, privet, day lily, purple leaf
winter creeper, honeysuckle shrubs and vines, and Republicans. If the supportive capacity of our
environment is going to continue they all need to be removed and if necessary by chemicals.

What we do need:

Bloodroot, bluebells, trilliums, black haw viburnums, lizard tails, black gum trees, oaks, shooting
stars, little bluestem, American Wahoo, northern white cedar, Redwoods, button bush, other natives
and Doug Tallamy.

What we don’t need:

A President who is a mentally ill psychopath who sees himself as Jesus and started a war
to hide his child raping past.

What we do need:
People like Tim Walz. He likes dogs.

Oh and we all need to get on “The Double Dutch Bus.” 25 …. 35 … 45. Hey you missed!




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What we really don't need and what we really do need. (Original Post) Botany 7 hrs ago OP
Yes but the billionaires and politicians HATE the things we really need. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #1
That is why they have to rig elections. Botany 7 hrs ago #2
Exactly. Irish_Dem 6 hrs ago #3
Burning bush - euonymous bucolic_frolic 6 hrs ago #4
Burning Bush is very invasive. Birds eat the fruits and spread them in their poop and it does not Botany 6 hrs ago #5
rose of sharon mopinko 5 hrs ago #6
Yup! Botany 5 hrs ago #7
everybody loves something that's easy to propagate. mopinko 5 hrs ago #8
Natives take longer. The nursery industry likes crap such as barberry which can be propagated by cuttings. Botany 5 hrs ago #9

Irish_Dem

(81,657 posts)
1. Yes but the billionaires and politicians HATE the things we really need.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:24 AM
7 hrs ago

They cannot get richer and kill us all with good ideas.

Botany

(77,484 posts)
2. That is why they have to rig elections.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:37 AM
7 hrs ago

A woman’s right to her own body, parks, education, a clean environment, sensible gun laws, and Monarch Butterflies are popular with the majority of Americans. Crypto, Christo Fascism, and just being cruel for
the sake of cruelty are not popular with most Americans.


Irish_Dem

(81,657 posts)
3. Exactly.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:55 AM
6 hrs ago

We knew that when they kept enabling the whole sale slaughter of American children that nothing would change their minds.

Gun violence is the leading cause of death for American children. Kids sitting in school are fair game to be shot to ribbons by machine guns.

This is how much the rich and our leaders hate us.

bucolic_frolic

(55,352 posts)
4. Burning bush - euonymous
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:05 AM
6 hrs ago

That's a surprise to me. They've been popular a long time. Colorado Blue Spruce don't do well for me here in the east. Better off with eastern red cedar.

Botany

(77,484 posts)
5. Burning Bush is very invasive. Birds eat the fruits and spread them in their poop and it does not
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:29 AM
6 hrs ago

…. support our native insects.

The non native Euonymus alatus has been sold and pushed by the nursery/landscape industry because
it is really easy to propagate and grow. If you can find it the Native American Wahoo (burning bush)
Euonymus atropurpureus is far superior if not arrow wood viburnum, black haw viburnum, or black
chokeberry are good alternatives. If you have one remove it and plant a New England Aster.

Many of our common landscape plants are non native and in many cases invasive.

mopinko

(73,779 posts)
6. rose of sharon
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:54 AM
5 hrs ago

🤮🤮🤮
have a neighbor w a whole hedge of it. i am CONSTANTLY pulling up seedlings.
only good thing about it is that the blossoms make a lovely tea.

Botany

(77,484 posts)
7. Yup!
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:01 AM
5 hrs ago

I have a project on an older house close to Ohio State’s campus and there were hundreds of
R. of S. plants it has taken over 1/2 a year to start to remove them.

Doug Tallamy’s Book, “Bringing Nature Home” has a good list of invasive plants.

Botany

(77,484 posts)
9. Natives take longer. The nursery industry likes crap such as barberry which can be propagated by cuttings.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:17 AM
5 hrs ago

Millions of Crimson Pygmy Barberry are produced and sold every year.



Those fruits are eaten by birds and the green form of the plant pops up all over the
place. The Oak Openings park west of Toledo has tons of them.

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