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yellowcanine

(36,808 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:42 AM 6 hrs ago

Trump should be very worried about Orban's defeat.

It wasn’t just a loss, it was a debacle. And the same forces are working against Trump and the Republicans here.

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Trump should be very worried about Orban's defeat. (Original Post) yellowcanine 6 hrs ago OP
Interesting take from a Politico article that opines that Orban's defeat should wake up Democrats. gab13by13 6 hrs ago #1
Well, it *is* Politico, after all Fiendish Thingy 6 hrs ago #5
what i think is mopinko 5 hrs ago #7
It's all connected Johnny2X2X 6 hrs ago #2
I think the president of the United States is not an entry-level job. Walleye 6 hrs ago #3
It is a fair point. Might portend well for someone like AOC. yellowcanine 6 hrs ago #4
After sending Vance to Budapest to shore up Orban DFW 5 hrs ago #6

gab13by13

(32,456 posts)
1. Interesting take from a Politico article that opines that Orban's defeat should wake up Democrats.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 08:53 AM
6 hrs ago

The thought is to go outside the normal structure of the Party, whether it be Democrat or Republican.

Please do not hit me up for this being a right wing talking point, I find it intriguing and it bolsters my prior posts that suggest Democrats nominate someone who is a non-politician for president such as Miles Taylor or Malcolm Nance. I appreciate negative comments on this idea.

"The outcome is a setback for the White House and a humiliation for its best friend in Europe.

But the sharpest message from Budapest should be for the Democrats, strange as that may sound.

That is because Orbán’s ouster represents a new triumph for a particular brand of disruptive politics: one defined by reformist candidates who launch new parties and blow up old ones, winning elections by rendering traditional political structures obsolete. Hungary's Peter Magyar, the leader of the anti-Orbán Tisza party, is the latest victor in this mold. There is no equivalent figure among Trump's American opponents.

This is not just the electoral flavor of the moment in Hungary, an ex-Communist country with a population roughly the size of New Jersey’s — hardly a bellwether for the American electorate. Instead, Magyar joins an eclectic club of successful insurgents scattered from Paris and Rome and Ottawa to Buenos Aires and Seoul and Washington."

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2026/04/13/hungary-election-orban-defeat-message-democrats-00868584

Fiendish Thingy

(23,385 posts)
5. Well, it *is* Politico, after all
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:24 AM
6 hrs ago

Do they ever do clean reporting on the coming Blue Tsunami?

I think not.

While Dems would do well to avoid Politics As Usual, the point of this article seems more relevant to the Republican Party.

I wonder if Liz Cheney reads Politico?

mopinko

(73,779 posts)
7. what i think is
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:48 AM
5 hrs ago

that a woman cd win. btn this and swalwell, i honestly think there is a vein of- let’s try something completely different.

Johnny2X2X

(24,296 posts)
2. It's all connected
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:00 AM
6 hrs ago

Hungary was absolutely the tip of the spear for the Putin/Trump plan to destroy Europe and turn it to fascism. To have Hungary go snap back to European democratic values derails the Right Wing plan.

Maybe the one good that comes of Trump is he has been a wakeup call to the world, fascism is on the march and it's up to democracies to reject it everywhere.

Walleye

(45,026 posts)
3. I think the president of the United States is not an entry-level job.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:02 AM
6 hrs ago

Beginners don’t do it very well and we need solid experienced people with good judgment in that job such as Joe Biden. He doesn’t make flashy shows at wrestling events. He just quietly keeps his head down and does his job. That’s what we need. Someone who knows what it’s like to be an American. Someone who knows what to do in that job

yellowcanine

(36,808 posts)
4. It is a fair point. Might portend well for someone like AOC.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:03 AM
6 hrs ago

Yes she is still a politician, but a somewhat unconventional one.

DFW

(60,287 posts)
6. After sending Vance to Budapest to shore up Orban
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:41 AM
5 hrs ago

Considering how much help that was, he should just say "jó éjszakát, Viktor," and forget that he ever heard of the place.

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