Wait! Trump is blockading Hormuz bc Iran closed it?

[yellowcanine]

How does that make sense?

[malaise]

1. Sense?

You’re looking for sense from this kakistocracy?

[Ocelot II]

2. Make sense? How is *making sense* involved? He's just blockading a blockade, that's all.

Perfectly normal. Happens all the time.

[Farmer-Rick]

3. He's blockading the blockade

Then Iran will block the blockade blocking the blockade and so on and so on......and somewhere pedo Trump extorts another 80 million barrels of oil...like in Venezuela.

I wonder what the citizens of Venezuela could have done with the money from 80 million barrels of oil? Pedo Trump just put it in his pockets.

[paleotn]

8. LOL! Exactly!!

Trouble is, Iran isn't Venezuela. They're a vastly tougher nut to crack, bristling with long range weapons. The Iranians aren't given him anything, other than a war he can't win. Oil is over $100 per barrel again this morning, as expected. And airports across the globe are running out of jet fuel.

A classic example of biting off way more than he can chew. An unfavorable, backdoor deal to extricate himself is inevitable. As is a nuclear armed Iran, eventually. The hard part will be making Iran keep the embarrassing, backdoor part secret. But such things can be arranged.

[Happy Hoosier]

4. The strategy, I think...

Is that if ships are interdicted, shippers will stop paying the toll and the pressure on Iran increases.

I think that's nonsense. I think US isolation will grow, and Chinese influence will expand. This is a DISASTER for US foreign policy.

[AZJonnie]

6. See, if Trump blockades Iran's blockade (from outside it's perimeter), then Iran's blockade is actually not a blockade

Cause there's no ships passing through to where Iran's blockade is. This in turn means IQ47 will rant and call everyone stupid when they say Iran has blockaded the strait. You know, because really it's The Almighty Trump who has blockaded the strait, so stop saying "Iran's Blockade" because it's not!

I'm not kidding, it probably really is this stupid.

[GopherGal]

10. That, unfortunately, sounds like the likely motivation.

All I came up with on my own was to try to remember my 3-year-old self and reverse engineer the Tangerine Toddler's so-called "thinking";
"You can't blockade it, *I'll* blockade it first"

[paleotn]

14. Maybe so.

But the few adults around Trump are probably thinking this will pressure 3rd parties into pressuring Tehran into making a deal. Iran will demand concessions. Probably lifting some sanctions Those 3rd parties will then pressure the US to make those concessions. Trump will probably accept to get the strait open. And the US ends this in worse shape than we started.

The fly in all this is the enriched uranium. Iran has little incentive to give it up. That will take serious concessions from the US, if that's even possible at this point. It was a non-starter on Saturday. Best we can hope for is a return to status quo with a stronger Iran and a weaker US. Plus, our credibility in the Gulf is shot to hell.

[AZJonnie]

17. Trump wouldn't have the gonads to impede ships bound for Russia or China, so the whole thing would be pointless

And possibly, not any ships bound for India either. Everyone involved knows this, including said 3rd party countries.

If what you're suggesting here is indeed the "adults" logic (and you may be totally right on this point), I think most would agree that the problem is most of the "adults" around IQ47 are stupid people to begin with, so they're unlikely to come up with good ideas. Add the fact they're also too terrified to cross Dear Leader or tell him his ideas are moronic and/or illegal, and it's hard to see how their advice is likely to produce meaningful or positive results for US interests.

I don't think the Marmalade Shartcannon is actually going to do try to blockade anyone's ships. Just more mindless bluster from the whining, tedious toddler. Although, if IQ47's real goal is making the USA look like a colossally stupid player on the world stage (which it kinda seems like it must be), I suppose "mission accomplished"

[Volaris]

5. He's blocking all traffic through the straight that agreed to pay the toll to Iran

He's fucking pissy he's not getting a cut.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

7. trump has a strategy

[paleotn]

16. ........

[BlueSpot]

19. These are brilliant!

Take all my recs!

[JI7]

9. This was already open before Trump started the war

now the entire war and negotiations are about this one thing.

[Efilroft Sul]

11. I'd love it if Iran tweeted, "Open the Strait, you fucking bastard!"

Won't happen, but still.

[Goonch]

12. ;-{) Repurposed Ballroom Bunker Dirt

[subterranean]

13. I can see a perverse kind of logic to it.

Iran's chief weapon in this war is the economic disruption it can cause by blocking the normal flow of traffic through the strait. If the U.S. blocks the traffic instead, it still causes economic damage, but takes away Iran's leverage in negotiations. It also cuts off a source of revenue for Iran.

[travelingthrulife]

15. I think he was hoping to punish any ship/country that made a deal with Iran for passage.

He's a pirate.

[yellowcanine]

18. Not a real pirate. Real pirates capture a prize now and then.

And they don’t chicken out. Trump always chickens out and the prize gets away.

[boonecreek]

20. Maybe this isn't a valid analogy,

but isn't that like taking Imodium when you're constipated?

[lame54]

21. He wants that passage money

[0rganism]

22. Looks like he's trying for the Uno Reverse play

I had no idea such clever card-oriented tactics applied directly to actual warfare, truly we live in an age of wonders.