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OAITW r.2.0

(32,301 posts)
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:12 PM 11 hrs ago

Ukraine is killing Russians with no shred of humanity. Why should they?

Drones are killing Russian occupiers at a 95% rate, 30K+/Russian casualties a month. And increasing. How many more Russian lives will Putin kill before he admits defeat?

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Ukraine is killing Russians with no shred of humanity. Why should they? (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 11 hrs ago OP
Be nice if Putin suffered the same fate as Orban and got kicked in the teeth at the ballot box. magicarpet 11 hrs ago #1
The only way Putin gets out of Ukraine is he if he decides staying in might get him killed. BannonsLiver 11 hrs ago #2
We do know this. Putin has fucked Russia for a decade. OAITW r.2.0 11 hrs ago #3
I would think so too. BannonsLiver 11 hrs ago #6
Sensible Russian troops surrender in response to the Ukrainians' "I Want to Live" programme Emrys 11 hrs ago #4
This either goes on until Putin dies or until Ukraine gives up territory fujiyamasan 11 hrs ago #5
Ukraine ain't giving up a square foot of their territory. OAITW r.2.0 11 hrs ago #8
100%. Not. One. Square. Inch. ColoringFool 10 hrs ago #17
And, oddly enough, the Donbas has billions of valuable mineral deposits. OAITW r.2.0 9 hrs ago #23
All he has to do The Bopper 9 hrs ago #21
Not one square inch! Ukraine has been fighting for their freedom and after all this sacrifice, they won't give up Deuxcents 9 hrs ago #31
I don't know why he was delusional... Trueblue Texan 9 hrs ago #25
I've heard estimates as high as 1.2 million killed/wounded/missing for the Russians... PeaceWave 11 hrs ago #7
If the Ukrainian estimates are accurate, Russia is losing somewhere between 1 and 2 battalions/day hatrack 11 hrs ago #9
Russian losses are mind-boggling. They haven't had this type of loss since WWII. OAITW r.2.0 10 hrs ago #10
If I might retort from the headline blue-wave 10 hrs ago #11
I have often wondered why Russians don't value the sanctity of life. What is it about them? PeaceWave 10 hrs ago #13
Historically they have never cared about the rank and file soldiers. Just throw them into the meat grinder mitch96 9 hrs ago #18
Then their Civil War had even more die than in WWI ITAL 9 hrs ago #27
Russia is conscripting old and emaciated Billsdaughter 10 hrs ago #12
I sent 3 of those FLAK survival kits oberle 9 hrs ago #22
You should be proud. OAITW r.2.0 9 hrs ago #28
Seems to me Russia has been targeting civilians Easterncedar 10 hrs ago #14
Ukraine is going to need to be able to recapture land. Renew Deal 10 hrs ago #15
95% of what? WarGamer 10 hrs ago #16
Yeah. I mean - what the heck does that actually MEAN .. ? stopdiggin 9 hrs ago #19
Ukrainian solders credit with 5% of Russian casualties in the last month. Drones - 95% OAITW r.2.0 8 hrs ago #32
They have taken the German Leopard tanks and made them killing machines Historic NY 9 hrs ago #20
Saw that today. Perfect set-up. I assume....but the poor bastards in the T-90 OAITW r.2.0 8 hrs ago #33
There's some pretty brutal videos on Reddit. Ukraine ain't playing around. Swede 9 hrs ago #24
Putin should just do the honorable thing... Dethhogan 9 hrs ago #26
What an odd way to phrase your title. Did you accidentally say Ukraine, niyad 9 hrs ago #29
Should have been clearer. Russian soldiers dying in the meatgrinder. OAITW r.2.0 8 hrs ago #34
Is there a link to those numbers? SleeplessinSoCal 9 hrs ago #30
Russia is apparently suffering more casualties per month in Ukraine Disaffected 7 hrs ago #35

magicarpet

(18,741 posts)
1. Be nice if Putin suffered the same fate as Orban and got kicked in the teeth at the ballot box.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:20 PM
11 hrs ago

Then maybe this war of aggression, waste of treasure and lives of young men at the prime of their lives will finally come to an end.

Hope & pray for that result.

BannonsLiver

(20,676 posts)
2. The only way Putin gets out of Ukraine is he if he decides staying in might get him killed.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:22 PM
11 hrs ago

That’s a calculation only he can make. We don’t know a lot about the Kremlin palace intrigue right now but it sure seems like self preservation has been a little more at the forefront lately for him.

Ukraine has also proven to be far more resilient and resourceful than even the most optimistic takes at the start of the war.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,301 posts)
3. We do know this. Putin has fucked Russia for a decade.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:28 PM
11 hrs ago

The Russia/Soviet Army is destroyed. The only card Putin has left are nukes. Betting wargamer's in the EU/NATO are focused on this gambit.

BannonsLiver

(20,676 posts)
6. I would think so too.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:50 PM
11 hrs ago

Putin is getting backed into a corner on manpower. They’ve taken a lot of people from rural areas but those wells are running dry. Any kind of future mass mobilization would require taking men from urban areas which seems more likely to be met with resistance 4 years in. authoritarians have been toppled by less. That’s taking the long way to say to your point I don’t think Putin can defeat Ukraine without using nuclear weapons. We’re to that stage now.

Emrys

(9,163 posts)
4. Sensible Russian troops surrender in response to the Ukrainians' "I Want to Live" programme
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:36 PM
11 hrs ago

Once in captivity, they're treated pretty well. You just have to contrast the well-fed, rested state of Russian POWs with emaciated and damaged Ukrainian POWs during prisoner exchanges to see evidence of the two cultures. Unfortunately, many of the returned Russian POWs end up back on the front as cannonfodder soon after release. Some have defected rather than return to Russia and are fighting alongside the Ukrainians.

For Ukraine, the gloves came off after the massacres in Bucha and later those that are ongoing in the border oblasts and Russian-occupied areas and the wantonly cruel bomb attacks on civilians in Ukraine's major conurbations. All that doesn't exactly foster a sense of charity toward the enemy.

fujiyamasan

(1,852 posts)
5. This either goes on until Putin dies or until Ukraine gives up territory
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:50 PM
11 hrs ago

And it depends on who comes to power after Putin. It’s not clear if any so called moderates or doves exist, or if they’ve all been purged. It appears to be the latter.

Of course even if Ukraine gives up territory, there’s no reason to trust Putin in honoring any agreement, or to believe this wouldn’t restart a few years down the line (Putin rearms further and relaunches).

It goes to show how delusional he was in launching this war in the first place.

There’s really no choice but for Europe to further assist Ukraine in arming itself. It may actually be in their interests for the US to leave NATO, since Trump’s actions primarily benefit Russia anyways.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,301 posts)
8. Ukraine ain't giving up a square foot of their territory.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:59 PM
11 hrs ago

Putin, if he were smart, would sue for peace now. Ukraine will be expecting reparations that Putin can't deliver,,,,,because he's bankrupted Russia.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,301 posts)
23. And, oddly enough, the Donbas has billions of valuable mineral deposits.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:38 PM
9 hrs ago

Putin's grab? How many more Euro's can he extract for his benefit?

Deuxcents

(27,180 posts)
31. Not one square inch! Ukraine has been fighting for their freedom and after all this sacrifice, they won't give up
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:57 PM
9 hrs ago

Nor should they. Putin greatly miscalculated Ukraine’s character and they’ve fought Russians and every mercenary Putin could get. I don’t see Ukraine giving up

Trueblue Texan

(4,522 posts)
25. I don't know why he was delusional...
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:41 PM
9 hrs ago

...he had all the right Yes men in place, just like TSF does!

PeaceWave

(3,546 posts)
7. I've heard estimates as high as 1.2 million killed/wounded/missing for the Russians...
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:56 PM
11 hrs ago

Putin is feeding a couple of generations worth of Russian men straight into the meat grinder.

hatrack

(64,968 posts)
9. If the Ukrainian estimates are accurate, Russia is losing somewhere between 1 and 2 battalions/day
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 10:03 PM
11 hrs ago

And if something can't go on forever, it won't. They're using convicted criminals, men in their 50s and 60s, press-ganged immigrants and blackmailed rural minorities from the Central Asian former SSRs.

And the one thing that Putin can't do is the one thing that Russians Who Matter (that is, white Great Russians) will NOT stand for - ordering full mobilization.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,301 posts)
10. Russian losses are mind-boggling. They haven't had this type of loss since WWII.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 10:08 PM
10 hrs ago

They were fighting for their lives, back then.

Now, a war against another adjacent country, for no reason?....not so much.

blue-wave

(5,329 posts)
11. If I might retort from the headline
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 10:22 PM
10 hrs ago

Ukrainians are saving Ukrainian lives. Through the centuries, Russia has mass murdered Ukrainians by the millions. It is time for this to stop once and for all. Russia must be defeated and defeated badly on the battlefield. It might be the only way to get through their thick skulls to any brain matter that might exist. And yet, I still debate if there is any brain matter.

PeaceWave

(3,546 posts)
13. I have often wondered why Russians don't value the sanctity of life. What is it about them?
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 10:40 PM
10 hrs ago

mitch96

(15,830 posts)
18. Historically they have never cared about the rank and file soldiers. Just throw them into the meat grinder
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:10 PM
9 hrs ago

till they overwhelm the enemy. In 1917 the army had enough. In 1917 the people had enough..
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ITAL

(1,348 posts)
27. Then their Civil War had even more die than in WWI
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:47 PM
9 hrs ago

I kinda wonder if in the early 1920s most Russians second guessed throwing off the Czar. Not that staying in WWI was good, but their CW was even worse.

Billsdaughter

(160 posts)
12. Russia is conscripting old and emaciated
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 10:38 PM
10 hrs ago

Drunks from Siberia and forcing them to fight in the Donbas. This is the level Putin has sunk to. Unless and until Russians stand up en masses against Putin, the degradation of the Russian people continues. Oddly, many Russians still support this invasion.

Meanwhile the Ukraine Spring Offensive is off to an amazing start. With new and overwhelming support from European countries, Ukraine is gaining on all fronts.

As a Ukranian American I could not be more proud. Ukrainians are resilient people and have a fortitude greater than most, primarily as a result of occupations they have defeated time and again over centuries.

Please consider donating a life-saving FLAK survival kit via White Stork. One $37 kit could save the life of a brave defender.

HEROYAM SLAVA! SLAVA UKRAINI 🇺🇦

oberle

(377 posts)
22. I sent 3 of those FLAK survival kits
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:36 PM
9 hrs ago

to some friends in Ohio that send supplies through Poland to Ukraine.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,301 posts)
28. You should be proud.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:50 PM
9 hrs ago

Ukraine got sucker punched by Putin. He thought he could do a "Hitler into Czechoslovakia" re-run. He didn't and Russia has been set back decades.

On edit. Ukraine, is, bar none, the best tactical military force on the planet right now. They've had 4 years of kicking Russia's awesome military to prove it..

Putin wants to start a 2nd front against Latvia, Estonia. Lithuanian? Give it a shot, Vlad.

Easterncedar

(6,367 posts)
14. Seems to me Russia has been targeting civilians
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 10:43 PM
10 hrs ago

Ukraine not so much? Is it just the way our news is bent? We hear of oil infrastructure and military installations and arms depots hit by Ukraine while apartment buildings, busy train stations, and funerals and schools are being targeted by Russia. Not to mention the damage to the nuclear plant and that horrific dam destruction.

Renew Deal

(85,254 posts)
15. Ukraine is going to need to be able to recapture land.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 10:47 PM
10 hrs ago

If you want to talk about surrender.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,301 posts)
32. Ukrainian solders credit with 5% of Russian casualties in the last month. Drones - 95%
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 12:11 AM
8 hrs ago

Oh, and Ukraine is now running an "Unmanned Ground Vehicle" assault on Russian lines. Russians can't compete with Ukraine's technical onslaught.

Since Russia want's to erase Ukrainian culture....how about leveling Saint Basil's Cathedral in Moscow? That would be a Russian eye=opener, even without Telegram.

Historic NY

(40,075 posts)
20. They have taken the German Leopard tanks and made them killing machines
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:13 PM
9 hrs ago

they can hit a target at 5.5 km

OAITW r.2.0

(32,301 posts)
33. Saw that today. Perfect set-up. I assume....but the poor bastards in the T-90
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 12:18 AM
8 hrs ago

were 1/2 that distance away from attempting a kill-shot.

Dethhogan

(1 post)
26. Putin should just do the honorable thing...
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:45 PM
9 hrs ago

And put a bullet in his brain like a lot of failed dictators.

niyad

(132,924 posts)
29. What an odd way to phrase your title. Did you accidentally say Ukraine,
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:53 PM
9 hrs ago

rather than ruzzia? Because it isn't Ukraine bombing hospitals and schools and apartment buildings. Perhaps you could rewrite your title to more accurately reflect the situation?

OAITW r.2.0

(32,301 posts)
34. Should have been clearer. Russian soldiers dying in the meatgrinder.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 12:23 AM
8 hrs ago

Putin is committing war-crimes. Ukraine is fighting this Russian war machine that is committing war crimes against Ukraine's civilians.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,419 posts)
30. Is there a link to those numbers?
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:55 PM
9 hrs ago

I've read that the robots have done the work of Ukrane ground troops. But not to that extent.

Disaffected

(6,464 posts)
35. Russia is apparently suffering more casualties per month in Ukraine
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 01:40 AM
7 hrs ago

than they did throughout their entire Afghanistan invasion.

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