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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:34 PM Jan 2013

Sen. Kirk says stroke changed perspective on Medicaid

Last edited Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) said his debilitating stroke has sparked a new interest in the experience of people on Medicaid.

In an interview published Wednesday, Kirk said that most Illinois residents insured through the low-income health program would be eligible for just 11 rehabilitation sessions following a stroke.

"Had I been limited to that I would have had no chance to recover like I did. So unlike before suffering the stroke, I’m much more focused on Medicaid and what my fellow citizens face," Kirk told the Chicago Sun Times.

"I will look much more carefully at the Illinois Medicaid program to see how my fellow citizens are being cared for who have no income and if they suffer from a stroke," Kirk said.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/medicaid/275291-sen-kirk-says-stroke-changed-perspective-on-medicaid


'I felt like there were angels in the room

(snip)
After a year away from work, Kirk said he realizes he was lucky to receive the care he did. While he still does not favor Obamacare, his recovery has given him a new perspective.

"On the Medicaid side, how we address citizens of Illinois who suffer from a stroke ... working so that my fellow citizens have the opportunities that I had," he said.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/03/16323596-senator-who-suffered-stroke-i-felt-like-there-were-angels-in-the-room?lite

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Sen. Kirk says stroke changed perspective on Medicaid (Original Post) cal04 Jan 2013 OP
once again, another selfish repub that doesn't give a shit about something until it happens to them corkhead Jan 2013 #1
It's too late for all the people he's screwed over Tempest Jan 2013 #3
Make the Pubs suffer first and then we will get change stultusporcos Jan 2013 #4
Yep. Between him and Peter King and Christie Doctor_J Jan 2013 #5
King has already been brought back into the fold atreides1 Jan 2013 #34
Yes. This is how they think all the time... Phentex Jan 2013 #7
+1,000 catbyte Jan 2013 #30
Had a heart attack & died. Two guardian angeles with combat experience at my side within seconds, jody Jan 2013 #2
Wow! malaise Jan 2013 #9
So glad you did wake up this morning. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #23
. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #26
God Bless Our First Responders!!! Great story, Jody! calimary Jan 2013 #40
this is what people get for electing idiots. nothing matters till it happens to them. spanone Jan 2013 #6
A lot of people are like that. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #38
OMG, he's openly exhibited compassion nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #8
If he realizes that Obamacare needs to be improved, then by all means, he should quit the R Panasonic Jan 2013 #10
The both happy and sad part is, Ilsa Jan 2013 #11
The Tea Baggers will turn on him for sure! Joey Liberal Jan 2013 #12
Do you mean you had to have a stroke pangaia Jan 2013 #13
Don't stop.at the stroke Heather MC Jan 2013 #35
Let's celebrate a change of heart. undeterred Jan 2013 #14
+10000 Sophiegirl Jan 2013 #19
RepubliCONs probably kicked him to the curb when they found out he had a heart. xtraxritical Jan 2013 #25
Good for him. It makes no sense to be critical of someone having an enlightened moment Tom Rinaldo Jan 2013 #15
The thing that upsets me so much, Tom, is that it ALWAYS takes a personal catbyte Jan 2013 #31
I agree that is upsetting, very Tom Rinaldo Jan 2013 #42
Why do Republicans have to have strokes or lesbian daughters before they learn compasssion? Bucky Jan 2013 #16
My thoughts exactly. Its a real tragedy they can't drum up a few feelings before they're actually Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #18
Why do republicans often lack empathy? It seems it takes their own tragedy to provoke feelings. Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #17
Well there you go again. Until it happens to them or a family member republicans just southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #20
Too bad they do not know what empathy is. Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #21
Skimping on physical therapy and rehab sessions is false economy. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #22
I'll believe it when I see it. surrealAmerican Jan 2013 #24
I'd rather they saw the light late than never. Shrike47 Jan 2013 #27
Now we'll see about his perspective on the UN CRPD KamaAina Jan 2013 #28
Not too bright. If you can ONLY learn from experience, AAO Jan 2013 #29
Yeah now he will.... no1uno Jan 2013 #32
What is it about the Repuke brain, that unless they experience something Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2013 #33
Emotionally dead. n/t Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #36
I think so! nt Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2013 #43
Why is it these dumbshits don't get it Zoeisright Jan 2013 #37
Quick, Boener's having a stroke. Last Stand Jan 2013 #39
You know how repubs are fond of saying truebluegreen Jan 2013 #41

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
1. once again, another selfish repub that doesn't give a shit about something until it happens to them
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jan 2013

When it comes to seeing the light, I guess, better late than never. Hopefully he will talk to members of his own party.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
5. Yep. Between him and Peter King and Christie
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jan 2013

these come-to-Jesus moments are pretty revolting. Why do these people have to have near-death experiences before they become human?

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
34. King has already been brought back into the fold
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:39 PM
Jan 2013

Earlier today Boehner told NY/NJ Republicans that he will let the house vote on a bill that would allow 9 billion for Sandy relief, and then will take care of the other 51 billion later this month...the down side is that with the new Congress, the new bill will have to go through the process that all bills have to.

King was just putting on an act...his "come-to-jesus" moment didn't even last 12 hours! And I'll bet Christie will be in quiet mode for the next few days...

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
7. Yes. This is how they think all the time...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jan 2013

as long as they are fine, screw everyone else. But oh wait, when THEY need something, it suddenly matters.

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
2. Had a heart attack & died. Two guardian angeles with combat experience at my side within seconds,
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:53 PM
Jan 2013

paramedics within three minutes who wouldn't give up, an emergency room doctor and staff who finally got a heart beat, a heart surgeon who had already performed over 1,400 bypass operations, and after five and a half years I'm still on DU.

Couldn't go to sleep for the first month, afraid of not waking up.

Realized that one can't live like that and decided to live one day at a time.

Today when I awake in the morning, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER GREAT DAY!

I love all of you, friends and enemies.

Sounds like Sen. Kirk had an epiphany like mine.

Happy New Year to the World, jody woke up one more time.

spanone

(135,880 posts)
6. this is what people get for electing idiots. nothing matters till it happens to them.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jan 2013

if he had an eighth of a brain he might try to apply this to other aspects of his job, but i doubt it.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
38. A lot of people are like that.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:10 PM
Jan 2013

Many of us think we know what something is like, or why it is so, but that's not the same as experiencing it.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
10. If he realizes that Obamacare needs to be improved, then by all means, he should quit the R
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:05 PM
Jan 2013

and go Independent, caucusing for the Democratic Party, strengthening the Senate further.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
11. The both happy and sad part is,
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jan 2013

These Repubs probably will never need emergency contraception for a rape, or a safe abortion for any variety of reasons, or extended UI because their jobs were shipped overseas, or really actually need Social Security because their IRA went to near-zilch after Congress threatened not to pay the govt's bills again, etc, etc. Most of them will be stuck in their dogma, and the most of the few that actually require this help, will simply be hypocrites about it.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. Do you mean you had to have a stroke
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jan 2013

to realize what hell people go through who do NOT have insurance..or enough insurance.
You stupid, ignorant douchpickle...

OK here's my plan-- EVERY republican politician must have a stroke and be told his/her insurance does not count...

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
35. Don't stop.at the stroke
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:41 PM
Jan 2013

they all have to live on minimum wage. live in a town for year where all the major jobs got shipped over seas. live on welfare, live in section 8 housing. Only go to a crowded free clinic for medical care. Oh and survive a mass shooting spree just barely so they can stay alive long enough to wmenant better gun laws.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
14. Let's celebrate a change of heart.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:25 PM
Jan 2013

He went through something really life altering, and maybe it really did change his perspective. That's a good thing.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
15. Good for him. It makes no sense to be critical of someone having an enlightened moment
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:33 PM
Jan 2013

I don't care how willfully blind he might have been about this prior to his stroke, seeing it now is a good thing, period. I can only wish that his newly discovered empathy for others with health issues carries over into other issues also. I don't count on that, but his statement regarding Medicaid is a positive one and I'm glad to see it.

catbyte

(34,454 posts)
31. The thing that upsets me so much, Tom, is that it ALWAYS takes a personal
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jan 2013

experience like this for Republicans to open their eyes. I give them no credit for becoming "enlightened." It is their job to advocate for their constituents, not screw them over in order to placate their corporate overlords. Lack of empathy is a sign of being a sociopath, and the GOP is infested with them. It is utterly despicable.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
42. I agree that is upsetting, very
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:48 AM
Jan 2013

But I always give anyone credit for any moment of enlightenment. They are to be encouraged. God knows we need more Republicans to have them. It is a sad commentary that it usually takes a personal crisis for empathy beyond their own peer group to break through to so many Republicans. But the deperessing truth is that for many of them even that doesn't bring that about. Many in Kirk's place would simply rationalize that they in some way deserve good medical coverage and other people don't; becuase they are lazy, inferior, whatever. Kirks comments in this instance weren't nuanced with bullshit. In this case under these circumstances it seems for a mment at least that he truly got it.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
16. Why do Republicans have to have strokes or lesbian daughters before they learn compasssion?
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jan 2013

Why do we have to see whole classrooms of first graders shot up before they think guns are a problem?

Welcome to an ounce of sanity, Senator. Where the fuck were you before?

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
18. My thoughts exactly. Its a real tragedy they can't drum up a few feelings before they're actually
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:38 PM
Jan 2013

in the situation.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
17. Why do republicans often lack empathy? It seems it takes their own tragedy to provoke feelings.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jan 2013

Aren't they emotionally evolved enough to mentally insert themselves into the situation before it occurs?

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
20. Well there you go again. Until it happens to them or a family member republicans just
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:44 PM
Jan 2013

don't get it or want to get it. Well maybe now he can open eyes on the republican side.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
21. Too bad they do not know what empathy is.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:44 PM
Jan 2013

E-M-P-A-T-H-Y. Look it up, you GOP pigs. I am glad that he has finally realized that the safety net they talk about is not adequate, but I find this sort of revelation stomach turning.

I have never had a stroke, but I know that I would listen to doctors to set treatments and rehabilitations instead of government monkeys. I have never been homeless, but I can imagine the hopelessness and fear that it would bring. I have never had children going hungry, but I know that playing that "punish the parents" game is disgusting.

You should not have to go through every horrible experience in life to feel for the people who are living that experience.

I hope that Sen Kirk rethinks a lot of other things too.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
22. Skimping on physical therapy and rehab sessions is false economy.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:44 PM
Jan 2013

I wonder how many elderly people could learn through physical therapy how to avoid falls and hip surgeries? How many of us could avoid knee problems if we walked correctly and got (and followed) dietary recommendations from someone who knows what they are talking about?

How many accidents could be avoided if elderly people could afford eye care and hearing aids. Glasses can cost a lot if your eyes are really bad. And some of my elderly friends warn that hearing aids can cost $3000 per ear and then don't work well.

Of course, all insurance plans for younger people should cover these items too. Many, many accidents and the costs that go with them could be avoided if people had access to preventive care for a lot of conditions. Glasses and hearing aids are not covered by regular Medicare.

surrealAmerican

(11,364 posts)
24. I'll believe it when I see it.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jan 2013

I have a hunch that if McConnel tells him to vote for medicaid cuts, his new found empathy may be hard to detect. Here's hoping, anyway.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
28. Now we'll see about his perspective on the UN CRPD
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:25 PM
Jan 2013

You remember, the one that would give the UN power to force repuke women to have abortions.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
29. Not too bright. If you can ONLY learn from experience,
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jan 2013

you are typically what I would call a moron, and shouldn't be dogcatcher, yet alone, a US Senator.

no1uno

(55 posts)
32. Yeah now he will....
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:19 PM
Jan 2013

I've said it time and time again...Unless some thing like this affects you personally or some one close to you, most people really don't care. We are just one catastrophic illness or injury away from loosing every thing.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
33. What is it about the Repuke brain, that unless they experience something
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:34 PM
Jan 2013

in their own skin, they just CANNOT GET IT? Are they born stupid?

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
41. You know how repubs are fond of saying
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:42 AM
Jan 2013

that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged?

A liberal is a conservative with a health problem.

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