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apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:49 AM Jan 2012

Gingrich Says He Will Skip Debates if Audiences Can’t Participate

Mr. Gingrich, a former House speaker, on Tuesday morning threatened not participate in any future debates with audiences that have been instructed to be silent. That was the case on Monday, when Brian Williams of NBC News asked the audience of about 500 people who assembled for a debate in Tampa to hold their applause until the commercial breaks.

In an interview with the morning show “Fox and Friends,” Mr. Gingrich said NBC’s rules amounted to stifling free speech. In what has become a standard line of attack for his anti-establishment campaign, Mr. Gingrich blamed the media for trying to silence a dissenting point of view.

“I wish in retrospect I’d protested when Brian Williams took them out of it because I think it’s wrong,” Mr. Gingrich said. “And I think he took them out of it because the media is terrified that the audience is going to side with the candidates against the media, which is what they’ve done in every debate.”



Link: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/gingrich-says-he-will-skip-debates-if-audiences-cant-participate/

Newton didn't do well last night. Maybe he is unsure of himself without audience feedback? Fascinating and good to know!

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Gingrich Says He Will Skip Debates if Audiences Can’t Participate (Original Post) apples and oranges Jan 2012 OP
Fine. Skip the rest of the debates. democrat_patriot Jan 2012 #1
Big mouth isn't going to sit it out. Oh no because he loves the attention. I hope the continue southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #2
Fine - fill the audience with Democrats leftynyc Jan 2012 #3
+1 jberryhill Jan 2012 #11
I would pay a lot (well, as much as I could) tallahasseedem Jan 2012 #30
Fucking baby... one_voice Jan 2012 #4
Don't let the door hit ya! n/t Little Star Jan 2012 #5
His lifeblood is the optics of the angry mob. nt Cognitive_Resonance Jan 2012 #6
This. Although, I'll admit, I missed seeing the angry mob apples and oranges Jan 2012 #19
Oh noes! 99Forever Jan 2012 #7
Depressing, isn't it... pipi_k Jan 2012 #18
Newt Gingrich = the Jerry Springer candidate Happyhippychick Jan 2012 #8
if he becomes president, is he going to showboat like this constantly? Enrique Jan 2012 #9
And done't forget, rationalize the shit out of everything because everyone else is to blame. dmr Jan 2012 #35
Count on it. It's an ingrained part of his personality, not just an election-season ploy. n/t gkhouston Jan 2012 #44
Awwww, poor baby... Spazito Jan 2012 #10
He missed his opportunity to whinge on about the Media last night Bok_Tukalo Jan 2012 #12
typical bully. nothing without his crew. nt mopinko Jan 2012 #13
Oh wow... pipi_k Jan 2012 #14
Newt's idea of audience participation.... jberryhill Jan 2012 #15
I think he has a point itsrobert Jan 2012 #16
But the audience doesn't end with the one in the studio rocktivity Jan 2012 #28
It is fair, but is it also fair to change rules from one debate to another itsrobert Jan 2012 #38
If we are talking about Rocky Horror Picture Show type, I'm for it! Liberal Veteran Jan 2012 #17
hahahhaha!!! Some items pipi_k Jan 2012 #21
OK, don't show up. Renew Deal Jan 2012 #20
NBC debate and Brian Williams was pretty boring. WI_DEM Jan 2012 #22
Please do. sinkingfeeling Jan 2012 #23
I guess he needs to have a mob or "hate pit" Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #24
Yep...Gnewt Can't Have Debates Like Democrats Do... KharmaTrain Jan 2012 #25
"What Cadrich wants is a Nuremberg rally..." snagglepuss Jan 2012 #34
Gingrich, Man of the People. marmar Jan 2012 #26
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that the audience Arkansas Granny Jan 2012 #27
But not the primary debates. NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #29
Totaly silent audience was the standard back in my day Brother Buzz Jan 2012 #32
so he's a self-admitted rabble-rouser muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #31
Without the false bravado he is nothing. Don't budge. Debate without him and watch him lose votes. mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #33
a bully always needs an audiance to play off of Douglas Carpenter Jan 2012 #36
whiney, petulant baby demtenjeep Jan 2012 #37
Newtie governs and debates in one liners Sheepshank Jan 2012 #39
Who cares? EC Jan 2012 #40
The truth revealed guitar man Jan 2012 #41
That's because he is nothing more than a stand-up comedian. tallahasseedem Jan 2012 #42
Go ahead, Newt. Hatchling Jan 2012 #43
Do onto others ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #45
Here's an idea. Ganja Ninja Jan 2012 #46
is this a promise? nt barbtries Jan 2012 #47
Call his bluff. Debates are the best thing he has going for himself right now. morningfog Jan 2012 #48
No he won't. n/t deacon Jan 2012 #49
Noot has to be a gladiator in the Roman Circus Raine Jan 2012 #50

democrat_patriot

(2,774 posts)
1. Fine. Skip the rest of the debates.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jan 2012

100% chance of a loss.

He won't skip the debates. I hope the media (not Fox) calls his bluff.

Or only Democrats are allowed in the audience :&gt
 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
2. Big mouth isn't going to sit it out. Oh no because he loves the attention. I hope the continue
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:52 AM
Jan 2012

this root. We sure don't need this kind of behavior during the general election. It is disguisting.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
4. Fucking baby...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jan 2012

no one to chew on the red meat he throws, so he's gonna take his nastiness and go home.

He needs the crowds worship to overshadow the fact he's a has been.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
9. if he becomes president, is he going to showboat like this constantly?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jan 2012

make demands of the press, make demands of foreign leaders, cancel meetings, make big huge deals out of nothing, all throughout his presidency?

:GodForbid:

dmr

(28,347 posts)
35. And done't forget, rationalize the shit out of everything because everyone else is to blame.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:29 PM
Jan 2012

I can't stand to hear his voice.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
14. Oh wow...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jan 2012

so how old is he again?

Two? He wants a cookie and a huge "Good boy!!!" each time he makes a poo in the potty instead of in his pants?



itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
16. I think he has a point
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jan 2012

I don't like him, but playing to the audience has been his bread and butter. Did the Romney campaign put NBC up to it?

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
28. But the audience doesn't end with the one in the studio
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:21 PM
Jan 2012

the whole point of televising the debate is that EVERYONE can be member of the audience. And if the participants can't play upon the reactions of the people outside the studio, I think it's fair that the studio audience should be asked to hold theirs.


rocktivity

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
38. It is fair, but is it also fair to change rules from one debate to another
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:32 PM
Jan 2012

Or enforce the "rules" differently? Newt was being helped when playing to the crowds. The Romney campaign most likely put their foot down on this.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
21. hahahhaha!!! Some items
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:07 PM
Jan 2012

I would bring...

Rotting meat...used TP...teenagers' filthy gym socks...moldy bread...squirt guns filled with cat urine...

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
24. I guess he needs to have a mob or "hate pit"
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:09 PM
Jan 2012

in order to communicate his "well-reasoned" and "intelligent" thoughts?

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
25. Yep...Gnewt Can't Have Debates Like Democrats Do...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:10 PM
Jan 2012

I was at one of the 2008 campaign forums. The moderators instructed us not to show any favoritism of one candidate or another...give all the candidates their chance to speak and to remain silent until the debate concluded. What Cadrich wants is a Nuremberg rally...

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
27. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that the audience
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:13 PM
Jan 2012

was asked to remain silent during the Presidential debates in 2008. Isn't that pretty standard?

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
32. Totaly silent audience was the standard back in my day
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jan 2012

All the cat calls and inappropriate applauding is alien to my world of civility. It's like the pubs chose to turn the 'debates' into a demented reality show.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
33. Without the false bravado he is nothing. Don't budge. Debate without him and watch him lose votes.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jan 2012

Tantrum throing misfit.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
39. Newtie governs and debates in one liners
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:41 PM
Jan 2012

his followers listen, think in, and respond to one liners.

His ego is assuaged only by the responses to his one liners.

It's all pretty simply to figure out why he MUST have his needs satisfied by audience feedback.

EC

(12,287 posts)
40. Who cares?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:51 PM
Jan 2012

The debate was better without the audience and he can't get the momentum he needs from the audience cheering him on. When he's going to be mean or untruthful, he needs the crowd to back him up and when they aren't allowed to be noisy or responsive, he's left on his own without any ignorant backing...so what do you know...he stays quiet. I think he knows when he's being dishonest and without the crowd backing him up, he knows he'll be called out.

guitar man

(15,996 posts)
41. The truth revealed
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:02 PM
Jan 2012

He's not that good. The cheering, slobbering , screaming audience has the same psychological effect as the laugh track on a sitcom, which is meant to make people think a one liner was funnier than it actually was.

Without the audience response making people think he's better at debate than he actually is, his performance falls pretty flat...

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
46. Here's an idea.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jan 2012

Let the audience participate but hold the rest of the debates in Utah. It's about as fair to Newt as it is for Romney to go through debates all across the south.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
50. Noot has to be a gladiator in the Roman Circus
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:01 PM
Jan 2012

he can't function without the screams of "off with their heads"!

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