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Swede

(40,227 posts)
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:06 PM Sunday

Privatizing prisons and detention facilities is one of the worst public policy decisions this country has ever made.

It is so open for abuse.

GEO Group is getting a nearly $1 billion contract to run Delaney Hall. They tell me there is one full-time doctor for 800 detainees.

Sen. Andy Kim: "It's a choice. Delaney Hall is run by GEO Group. GEO Group is getting a nearly billion contract to run Delaney Hall. They tell me there is one full-time doctor for 800 detainees. They could have more doctors if they wanted to, but that's cutting into their profits."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-05-31T14:55:47.313Z
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Privatizing prisons and detention facilities is one of the worst public policy decisions this country has ever made. (Original Post) Swede Sunday OP
I've been saying this for years. wnylib Sunday #1
The new plantations and chain gangs malaise Sunday #3
Not a problem for Uglicans -- they don't really want a democracy anyway. eppur_se_muova Sunday #4
Private industry profiting off of locking up our fellow citizens & lobbying congress for draconian laws. CrispyQ Sunday #8
Andy Kim gives me hope. So does mahina Sunday #2
I hope Jasmine Crockett runs again for the House. She is fearless. OGBuzz Sunday #18
I feel the same! mahina Sunday #23
attorney general cynical_idealist Sunday #27
Just own the responsibility Envirogal Sunday #5
The very idea is so asinine, immoral, and ridden with conflicts of interest to the point Uncle Joe Sunday #6
The constitution says all prions (not just for-profit ones) can use slave labor Soul_of_Wit Sunday #17
That's correct, but private for profit prisons send lobbyists to bribe government officials Uncle Joe Sunday #21
Prisons and concentration camps make money whether they're privatized or not. That's why the exist. The only difference WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #7
Governments are more accountable Soul_of_Wit Sunday #13
It's still profit and slave labor. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #19
I remember when Little Joe crud Sunday #9
Completely agree. Buddyzbuddy Sunday #10
True. Horrifically true Easterncedar Sunday #11
Yeah, Capitalism sucks. BlueTsunami2018 Sunday #12
Yet the capitalists tell us that socialism is the root of all evil. OGBuzz Sunday #20
This was covered in Kurt Vonnegut's 1990 novel, "Hocus Pocus." The Wizard Sunday #14
I wonder if Geo Group founder and CEO George Zoley, a huge supporter OGBuzz Sunday #15
Mass incarceration started under Reagan orangecrush Sunday #16
Why doesnt the government have a policy to subsidize more doctors? SSJVegeta Sunday #22
I recently read it's not just warehouse type facilities now... littlemissmartypants Sunday #24
That's at least $1 million per detainee nuxvomica Sunday #25
Put the entire C-suite of GEO Group in prison garb, and make them break rocks with pickaxes for 12+ hours sakabatou Sunday #26
It's Certainly Up There ProfessorGAC Sunday #28

eppur_se_muova

(42,647 posts)
4. Not a problem for Uglicans -- they don't really want a democracy anyway.
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:41 PM
Sunday

Private prisons are a step in the right direction for them.

CrispyQ

(41,122 posts)
8. Private industry profiting off of locking up our fellow citizens & lobbying congress for draconian laws.
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:47 PM
Sunday

Back when I still conversed with the right-wingers in my family I tried to point out how corrupt & unfair that arrangement was, but the response I got was, "If you can't do the time don't do the crime." The religious right especially gets off on punishment, IMO.

The most depressing funeral I went to was for an aunt of mine, a joyful woman with a huge heart, who married into a very religious family—some of the right-wingers mentioned above. The minister went on about how despite outward appearances, only God knows what's in our hearts, & if we're deserving of going to heaven. As an atheist I find funerals & people's reactions interesting, but I've never been to a funeral with such a downhead message.

mahina

(20,768 posts)
2. Andy Kim gives me hope. So does
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:27 PM
Sunday

Sheldon White House, Jamie, Raskin, Elizabeth Warren, Mazie Hirono, our representative Jill Tokuda, and some others. AOC. Bernie of course. And Joe and Jill Biden and Barack Obama.

And you guys

Envirogal

(330 posts)
5. Just own the responsibility
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:43 PM
Sunday

If you are going to be a country with the highest incarceration rate, then it is up to the country and its taxpayers to take on the burden directly and not outsource this to private for-profit corporations, many publicly traded on the stock market.

Uncle Joe

(65,706 posts)
6. The very idea is so asinine, immoral, and ridden with conflicts of interest to the point
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:46 PM
Sunday

that it threatens our democracy itself.

It's one step above the institution of slavery, and can only breed corruption.

Thanks for the thread Swede

Soul_of_Wit

(168 posts)
17. The constitution says all prions (not just for-profit ones) can use slave labor
Sun May 31, 2026, 02:11 PM
Sunday

The fact that some prisons pay a near-zero wage does not make this untrue.

Uncle Joe

(65,706 posts)
21. That's correct, but private for profit prisons send lobbyists to bribe government officials
Sun May 31, 2026, 02:24 PM
Sunday

to maximize draconian laws just to increase the profit margins for those prisons, and they create a degree of separation in regards to accountability.

Government run prisons are at least theoretically beholden to the public as in "We the People."

Near zero wages don't serve the public interest in any case.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,294 posts)
7. Prisons and concentration camps make money whether they're privatized or not. That's why the exist. The only difference
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:46 PM
Sunday

is where the profit goes. Only about 10% of prisons are private.

Soul_of_Wit

(168 posts)
13. Governments are more accountable
Sun May 31, 2026, 02:04 PM
Sunday

This is true even with the context of an imperfect US Constitution allowing slavery in prisons.

crud

(1,293 posts)
9. I remember when Little Joe
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:49 PM
Sunday

got arrested by a crooked sherif and forced to work in a mine. I learned this shit was wrong as kid watching Bonanza.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,941 posts)
10. Completely agree.
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:53 PM
Sunday

Also, private military contractors.
Trained on our dime then recruited into private armies with weaponry to rival our own military. HUGE MISTAKE!

BlueTsunami2018

(5,096 posts)
12. Yeah, Capitalism sucks.
Sun May 31, 2026, 02:01 PM
Sunday

Every problem we have can be traced right back to one source. Healthcare sucks? Capitalism. Education sucks? Capitalism. Homeless people? Capitalism. Food insecurity? Capitalism. Environmental degradation? Capitalism. Lack of equity? Capitalism.

Our tax dollars are spent to kill people around the world and steal their resources. Why? Capitalism.

Privatizing prisons is inherently going to be corrupt because the point isn’t rehabilitation or making sure justice is done, it’s about filling beds and giving the least amount of care possible because you want to squeeze every last bit of profit out of it as you can.

How many judges have had cases against them for throwing as many people in jail as they can for kickbacks?

The problem is capitalism, it’s always been the problem, it’ll always be the problem.

OGBuzz

(752 posts)
20. Yet the capitalists tell us that socialism is the root of all evil.
Sun May 31, 2026, 02:23 PM
Sunday

Maybe they should ask the Nordic countries which practice democratic socialism and consistently lead the world in happiness rankings. USA ranks #23.

The Wizard

(13,903 posts)
14. This was covered in Kurt Vonnegut's 1990 novel, "Hocus Pocus."
Sun May 31, 2026, 02:06 PM
Sunday

On another note: Remember the two Pennsylvania Judges who were taking bribes and for unwarranted sentencing of juveniles to private detention camps that were reimbursed by the state? They were sentenced to prison.

OGBuzz

(752 posts)
15. I wonder if Geo Group founder and CEO George Zoley, a huge supporter
Sun May 31, 2026, 02:06 PM
Sunday

of Trump, has ever been served a piping hot bowl of porridge full of maggots.

SSJVegeta

(3,254 posts)
22. Why doesnt the government have a policy to subsidize more doctors?
Sun May 31, 2026, 02:43 PM
Sunday

They can even hire more doctors at a profit which would satisfy their profit motives and shareholders. The government can do this if it wanted. So far they pay for number of beds. But we can do better... try pay for number of doctors with incentivized premiums paid out, as well as voluntary inspections. Fresh food, humane treatment, etc.

littlemissmartypants

(34,759 posts)
24. I recently read it's not just warehouse type facilities now...
Sun May 31, 2026, 04:07 PM
Sunday

Now, there are places that appear innocuous. Like in malls and other places like rented homes and unoccupied businesses in strip malls.

They are diversifying and going underground. Which is entirely predictable. They're criminals, after all.

Stealing, kidnapping people for profit isn't a noble profession.

We're going to have to undo this mess, and it will be difficult to do, but we have to do it.

nuxvomica

(14,287 posts)
25. That's at least $1 million per detainee
Sun May 31, 2026, 04:17 PM
Sunday

I don't know the exact numbers for the contract or number of detainees, somewhere between 800 and 900, but let's say $1B for 1,000 detainees would be $1M per detainee. Any number anywhere close to that is insane. The annual cost per inmate in the Federal prison system for FY 2022 was $42,672, so where is that extra money going? Even the MAGA scum who are okay with the fascism and cruelty should be balking at the money being siphoned out of their pockets.

sakabatou

(46,435 posts)
26. Put the entire C-suite of GEO Group in prison garb, and make them break rocks with pickaxes for 12+ hours
Sun May 31, 2026, 04:19 PM
Sunday

in sweltering heat and humidity. No breaks.

ProfessorGAC

(77,423 posts)
28. It's Certainly Up There
Sun May 31, 2026, 05:48 PM
Sunday

Another was the decision to marketize the refined product from petroleum.
It completely removed the incentive to be a low cost provider. And, that was proposed by the sane people that wanted to privatize everything because competition was the solution. Then, they eliminated a point of competitiveness.
So, we've got 2 of the biggies covered.

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