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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRegarding Peter Thiel has moved to Argentina
Does anyone recall the approximately $40 billion that was discreetly transferred to Argentina several months ago?
Just saying.
https://democraticunderground.com/100221266788
OGBuzz
(746 posts)all of it back by early January. That's an awful lot going on in 2 short months. According to Scott Jennings the U.S. even made a profit.
With this government how would anyone know?
OAITW r.2.0
(32,749 posts)OGBuzz
(746 posts)The entire thing is strange, first it was $40 billion, then it was $20 billion, then it got paid back in 2 months with interest. I wonder if anyone outside of Trump's inner circle has seen the receipts.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,749 posts)Buying the country would be a good investment for this criminal Epstein class.
Wiz Imp
(10,550 posts)Nobody on DU should ever be quoting ScottJennings other than to point out he is being an idiot or an asshole or both.
OGBuzz
(746 posts)defend the whole $20 billion on CNN a few weeks back which made me even more suspicious. U.S. hands $20 billion to Javier Milei and gets it all back with interest 2 months later? This may have been the largest heist in history, all in broad daylight.
mr715
(4,369 posts)Fil1957
(922 posts)IronLionZion
(51,610 posts)Will more MAGAts join him there?
niyad
(134,332 posts)people in different places were cheering him being "out of the picture". I asked if they were aware of little things like international phone service and email.
littlemissmartypants
(34,739 posts)niyad
(134,332 posts)Figarosmom
(13,854 posts)Utopia they want to build somewhere down there for Rich people too.
I also remember George Bush buying some land down there with an aquifer under it. Seems to me that was in Paraguay which is right above Argentina.
aggiesal
(10,945 posts)So when the (D)'s take control of congress, and evidence appears against Thiel, we couldn't have him extradited.
I believe that's why he chose Argentina.
liberalla
(11,251 posts)Not that he still can't fight it and make it difficult...
Hell! if need be, he can flee somewhere else by the time Dems are in control again.
littlemissmartypants
(34,739 posts)About Treaty Documents
The United States Constitution provides that the president shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make treaties. Treaties are binding agreements between nations and become part of international law. Treaty Documents are referred to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, where they may be considered and reported. The Senate can consider a treaty on the floor under similar procedures used for legislation. However, the Constitution requires that two-thirds of voting Senators agree for a treaty to be ratified.
The document I found doesn't say it was ratified.
https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/105th-congress/18/more-info
It's confusing.
Latest Senate Action
10/21/1998
Resolution of advice and consent to ratification agreed to in Senate by Division vote.
https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/105th-congress/18/resolution-text
As approved: Resolved (two-thirds of the Senators present concurring therein), That the Senate advise and consent to the ratification of the Extradition Treaty Between the United States of America and the Argentine Republic, signed at Buenos Aires on June 10, 1997 (Treaty Doc. 105-18), subject to the understanding of subsection (a), the declaration of subsection (b), and the proviso of subsection (c). (a) Understanding.¿ The Senate's advice and consent is subject to the following understanding, which shall be included in the instrument of ratification: Prohibition on Extradition to the International Criminal Court.¿ The United States understands that the protections contained in Article 16 concerning the Rule of Specialty would preclude the resurrender of any person from the United States to the International Criminal Court agreed to in Rome, Italy, on July 17, 1998, unless the United States consents to such resurrender; and the United States shall not consent to the transfer of any person extradited to Argentina by the United States to the International Criminal Court agreed to in Rome, Italy, on July 17, 1998, unless the treaty establishing that Court has entered into force for the United States by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, as required by Article II, section 2 of the United States Constitution. (b) Declaration.¿ The Senate's advice and consent is subject to the following declaration, which shall be binding on the President: Treaty Interpretation.¿ The Senate affirms the applicability to all treaties of the constitutionally based principles of treaty interpretation set forth in Condition (1) of the resolution of ratification of the INF Treaty, approved by the Senate on May 27, 1988, and Condition (8) of the resolution of ratification of the Document Agreed Among the States Parties to the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe, approved by the Senate on May 14, 1997. (c) Proviso.¿ The resolution of ratification is subject to the following proviso, which shall not be included in the instrument of ratification to be signed by the President: Supremacy of the Constitution.¿ Nothing in the Treaty requires or authorizes legislation or other action by the United States of America that is prohibited by the Constitution of the United States as interpreted by the United States.
Others, please weigh in here. Is it ratified?
liberalla
(11,251 posts)Argentina (12866) Treaty on Extradition
TIAS
OFFICE OF TREATY AFFAIRS
JUNE 15, 2000
https://2017-2021.state.gov/12866/
So it looks like it the Treaty is now in effect.
littlemissmartypants
(34,739 posts)liberalla
(11,251 posts)littlemissmartypants
(34,739 posts)littlemissmartypants
(34,739 posts)EXTRADITION TREATY WITH ARGENTINA
https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/105th-congress/18/more-info
ChicagoTeamster
(1,300 posts)government from collapsing. Was Thiel involved in that?
littlemissmartypants
(34,739 posts)Thiel has met President Milei on multiple occasions, including a visit to the Casa Rosada Presidential Palace, where the pair discussed political and economic ideas aligned with their shared libertarian outlook, The New York Times reported.
Milei later described one meeting as wonderful, saying both men view taxes as theft, according to The Buenos Aires Times.
Rather than focusing on specific deals, Milei said the conversation centered on shared ideology and long-term political direction.
He is an anarcho-capitalist, just as I am philosophically, the president said, adding that Thiel asked how those ideas could endure beyond his administration.
ChicagoTeamster
(1,300 posts)are the world's richest drug addicts. They put Trump, also an adderall addict (according to staff from Celebrity apprentice) ,adjudicated rapist, supposed child rapist and supposed child murderer (based on what's been reported of the Epstein files) and Vance (who is co-dependent because of his family history of drug abuse which he self reported in his book) in the white house.
Maybe we should really consider the damaging affects of allowing the existence of sociopathic rich predators. They used to be the monarchy. But the world eventually did away with that.