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Iran is working behind the scenes to cut deals with China, Russia, India, Iraq, Pakistan and several other countries for safe passage through Hormuz.
Krasnov has threatened at least one country to not make any deals. Once a country like China gets on board it's all over for Krasnov. China has already been getting oil tankers through Hormuz.
Krasnov made Iran a player in the world, Krasnov opened the door for Iran to make a lot of money from Hormuz.
Everything Krasnov touches dies.
Come the 4th of July if Hormuz is still closed the senior executive VP of Exxon Mobil told a group of investors that Brent crude will hit $150 - $160 a barrel.
Time is on Iran's side. The markets won't be able to cover for Krasnov come the 4th of July when everyone's strategic oil supplies are drained. Tick Tock.
no_hypocrisy
(55,523 posts)Fact of Life.
GreatGazoo
(4,755 posts)also using ship-to-ship transfers.
China's position is public. They are ignoring sanctions.
Increase in rail shipments:
https://www.moneycontrol.com/world/iran-bypasses-us-blockade-with-rail-oil-exports-to-china-pakistan-freight-traffic-surges-article-13936437.html
dalton99a
(95,695 posts)They're sitting across the table."
- Donald Trump, speech at Liberty University, January 18, 2016
RoeVWade
(939 posts)Lots of Crapola results.
Lovie777
(23,954 posts)onenote
(46,262 posts)You say if it isn't opened by July 4, oil will skyrocket. But you also say China is getting oil through the strait and once China is able to do, it's all over.
The Straits of Schrödinger?
gab13by13
(32,891 posts)A lot more than oil goes through Hormuz.
I have no idea what arrangement China made with Iran but China is Iran's biggest oil customer so it has to treat China nice and vice versa.
Pay a toll and one gets safe passage
I support Democrats.
onenote
(46,262 posts)affect the price of oil?
Oh, and by the way, and it should go without saying, that I support Democrats too -- never thought that posters here had to reaffirm that fact when they post.
gab13by13
(32,891 posts)You asked a rhetorical question about whether Hormuz was open and so I was forced to answer it.
In my post I even stated that an Exxon Mobil executive stated that if Hormuz wasn't open by the 4th of July that Brent crude would skyrocket.
That statement should have given you a clue as to whether Hormuz was open or not.
Johonny
(26,720 posts)Why does anyone think Iran is going to trust Trump. They've stated over and over they dont
surfered
(14,588 posts)Trump tore up our previous agreement with Iran then, while negotiating a new agreement, he unexpectedly bombed them. He has a history of breaking deals on a whim.
the_liberal_grandpa
(333 posts)The grifter in chief is making too much money by manipulating the stock market during his war to want it to end.
He does not give a crap about you and me. Only himself and his bank account.
He is too blind to see or undertand the consequences of his actions.
He's never filled a gas tank or gone shopping for groceries.
He needs to go away ASAP
patphil
(9,258 posts)As the election gets closer, Trump will get more and more desperate to end this. Time is on Iran's side.
Is there any limit to this man's ignorance, stupidity, and arrogance?
But then, he's making America great again everyday in every way.
ToxMarz
(3,100 posts)They already HAD a deal with the US. How did that work out for them.
Ponietz
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