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PCIntern

(28,671 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 07:04 AM 23 hrs ago

Orangina's Dentition Part Tres

Well this is interesting: the following are two very recent photos





And these are from a short time ago:





I’m actually not certain about what’s going on here, but it may be that he is now wearing provisional or temporary bridgework. There is virtually no question that the earlier photo showed a fixed prosthesis over teeth or implants. The later photos appear to be a slightly different configuration and may be what we called characterized, which is what we perform on temporaries or even permanent restorations to break up the light reflection so it doesn’t look artificial.

He may well be in the middle of significant dental treatment which would explain why they mentioned it on multiple occasions. If his reconstruction failing catastrophically, there is a transitional crisis component which has a degree of uncertainty, despite what the capabilities of the dentist may be.

Now in a patient with dementia, and I have significant experience in this regard, this transition generates fear and anger. I posted a long time ago about my patient who was a Senior Judge in Philadelphia’s Court of Common Pleas, a very respected man, and possessing progressive Fronto-temporal dementia. “Nightmare” does not begin to describe what I went through with him for years until he finally passed away in his late 90’s.

For these individuals, the process is extremely disorienting and upsetting and I would NOT want to be Orangina’s dentist, no matter my politics. God help the staff as well and even the dental laboratory technicians involved must experience real trepidation.

I will continue to keep an eye on this situation and report in. I believe that if he is suffering significant somatic illness, the immune response may be taking its toll upon his dentition.

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Orangina's Dentition Part Tres (Original Post) PCIntern 23 hrs ago OP
Fascinating and good catch. Bumbles 22 hrs ago #1
Kick dalton99a 22 hrs ago #2
Treating "celebrities" PCIntern 21 hrs ago #3
The top photo shows a front tooth missing in the bottom row FakeNoose 21 hrs ago #4
Yes PCIntern 21 hrs ago #6
My mother experienced progressive dementia. yardwork 21 hrs ago #5
My sympathies... PCIntern 21 hrs ago #7
I can certainly imagine Trump becoming enraged and pulling out a prosthesis. yardwork 20 hrs ago #9
All the cardiovascular stuff aside, PCIntern 20 hrs ago #10
I am very disheartened by one thing you said. llmart 21 hrs ago #8
No worries PCIntern 20 hrs ago #11
I read it quickly and was trying to figure out... COL Mustard 20 hrs ago #12
😂😂😂😂😂 PCIntern 18 hrs ago #13
Those pictures NJCher 18 hrs ago #14
You should be thankful PCIntern 18 hrs ago #16
lol! NJCher 32 min ago #19
Recommended. H2O Man 18 hrs ago #15
My spouse is completing the process for full denture implants.. haele 17 hrs ago #17
I wish you both the best...sounds like the practitioners know PCIntern 17 hrs ago #18

PCIntern

(28,671 posts)
3. Treating "celebrities"
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:46 AM
21 hrs ago

I once said to an on-air individual from my local TV station that “I would trade 20 of you so-called Philadelphia celebrities for one normal person“.

The risks are enormous when you treat these people . If you doubt me, Google: Paul Anka Dental problem onstage.

FakeNoose

(42,625 posts)
4. The top photo shows a front tooth missing in the bottom row
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:53 AM
21 hrs ago

... so I'm thinking he might have lost a cap or an implant? Usually they can be replaced quickly, if the dentist has a matching replacement tooth handy.

I know what you mean about dementia patients and their difficulty for dental work. My sister has recently passed away but she suffered from dementia for the last 30 years of her life. She reached a point where she could no longer receive any dental care at all, and eventually she lost most of her teeth.

I don't believe Chump has reached the point of being unable to receive dental care though. In his 50s and 60s he was a TV personality, and he must have been given a full-mouth workover. I believe Chump still understands how important his "TV looks" are, otherwise he wouldn't be so vain about his hair and makeup, etc.

PCIntern

(28,671 posts)
6. Yes
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 09:19 AM
21 hrs ago

It may be a fractured pontic(dummy tooth) on the prosthesis. There seems to be a lot going on here.

yardwork

(69,773 posts)
5. My mother experienced progressive dementia.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 09:02 AM
21 hrs ago

She became very agitated about her teeth. Going to the dentist, which had never bothered her before, became an emotional ordeal. She would become very upset.

As her illness progressed she stopped caring for her teeth. Even in assisted living she was mostly unwilling to let people help her.

She'd always been very careful about dental hygiene and her teeth just kind of fell apart.

PCIntern

(28,671 posts)
7. My sympathies...
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 09:22 AM
21 hrs ago

And I have had multiple experiences where in I have warned the caring individual that his or her dependent may reject the removable prosthesis, then being told that it will be all right, and then getting a phone call that the elderly person flushed the prosthesis down the toilet.

And then, of course, I am asked to remake the prosthesis at little or no cost to the patient which really is a hoot. And the bad part with all this is that when you make a partial or full denture, that which you’ve created to make it is destroyed in the process, so you can’t just remake it easily unless it was a scan, which is only coming into Vogue now. Even then, the laboratory fees are significant. It’s all a big mess.

yardwork

(69,773 posts)
9. I can certainly imagine Trump becoming enraged and pulling out a prosthesis.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 09:54 AM
20 hrs ago

Lots of things could be happening. It's interesting how Americans tend to scrutinize and obsess over other parts of the body, but many neglect their teeth or overlook the health issues associated with teeth.

PCIntern

(28,671 posts)
10. All the cardiovascular stuff aside,
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 10:00 AM
20 hrs ago

which is not trivial by any means, the “oral cavity” and associated teeth are important for eating, expression of emotion, verbal expression, vertical facial height, breathing, and other functionalities.

Difficulties associated with the structures can severely limit the individual’s abilities to project the self to others. They can be life-changing.

llmart

(17,753 posts)
8. I am very disheartened by one thing you said.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 09:39 AM
21 hrs ago

Your patient lived into his late 90's. Let's not hope this is the case with this ugly monster.

haele

(15,647 posts)
17. My spouse is completing the process for full denture implants..
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:48 PM
17 hrs ago

Due to issues with some of his psych medications that caused tooth root rot and bone damage in the jaw, which was impacting the stability of already installed implants.
He is getting both uppers and lowers.
Over the past five months, he's had to have all his teeth pulled, the bone sockets scrubbed, a bone growth treatment put in those sockets and spacers to ensure there wouldn't be any socket collapse or fractures while the eight existing implant settings were replaced with new ones for the temps and final dentures (which he will get after bone regrowth and implant settings are verified in three more months)
It is actually cheaper doing it all at once as dentures then replacing 20 more teeth one at a time over the next 10 years or so. $35k (insurance only paid $5k), one 3 hour procedure under sedation (which insurance didn't pay for) vs. $4k to 7k per tooth with an hour and a half under sedation (again, sedation is not paid for) each time a real tooth cracks. Or we could just pull his teeth as they crack and leave him with only 8 teeth to eat and talk with.
Dental health in this country sucks. It's apparently a moral hazard to not be wealthy and have bad teeth.

And if the Orange one is both an Adderall addict and has been suffering from dementia based mood swings since his last years on "the Apprentice" as reported, some of the mood stabilizers he could have been taking since then have been rotting his teeth ..

PCIntern

(28,671 posts)
18. I wish you both the best...sounds like the practitioners know
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:05 PM
17 hrs ago

what they’re doing.

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