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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have been reading different articles with Dr. Jill Biden's comments about President Biden online
She said he will live with cancer the rest of his life. I hope and pray with all my heart that he outlives DJT because I know DJT will be his usual crass, ugly self if President Biden predeceases him and will say nothing but nasty vile things about him and I don't think I could take it. President Biden is such a decent, kind, warm, caring human being, all the things that DJT is not, and I don't want his memory and legacy to be desecrated by the likes of that cretin in the White House who doesn't have a decent bone in his entire body.
I truly believe that President Biden had the interests of our country and its people at heart and did his absolute best for all of us, including people who didn't vote for him. Not like DJT who doesn't do anything for anybody except himself and expects to be worshiped every single second of the day and rails against anybody who disagrees with him and tries to waste our money on his stupid vanity projects.
How wonderful it was to have an actual adult for president and not a whiny little bitch. More than anything else in the world, I want another adult for president. An intelligent, knowledgeable, capable, level-headed, sane adult PLEASE! I don't think that's too much to ask.
Raven123
(7,942 posts)Asked a lot of questions (some of which I thought were inappropriate), and answered gracefully. When asked about Trump she simply said she wouldnt talk about him. Good for her. Never a fan of Lemire (who asked the questions). Less so now.
MIButterfly
(3,244 posts)Now that is a class act. I admire her for that. Ask me about Trump and you'd get an earful.
Not only do I miss President Biden, I miss having a classy and intelligent first lady too. Don't get me started on the plastic ice queen we have now.
Joinfortmill
(21,774 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 2, 2026, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)
MIButterfly
(3,244 posts)tman
(1,260 posts)His decision to run again, highly encouraged by Jill Biden herself, will be seen for what it was. A massive, historic mistake.
Her claim that Biden's disastrous debate performance was a surprise is... to put in mildly, ridiculous.
"her claim that Biden's disastrous debate performance was a surprise is... to put in mildly, ridiculous."
He was fine before and after the incident. He's fine now. He was coming off an international trip and Covid.
EdmondDantes_
(2,150 posts)And his case of covid was after the debate.
The administration was generally not having Biden doing public events or interviews as president for a reason. There's no shame in decline and I have seen in my own family how hard it is to see and acknowledge it. But that doesn't change the fact he was declining.
crimycarny
(2,103 posts)He flew around the world twice in those 12 days before the debate, going to France for a D-Day event, coming back, then going to Italy for the G7 conference! And then back to LA for a fundraiser. If Joe Biden was so incapacitated that his staff was trying to hide him, why the h*ll would they risk his appearances at such high stakes events in such a short amount of time? Its not like he was vacationing in those 12 days of international travel.
I saw Joe Biden at the G7 summit and D-Day event, and the super high stakes press conference after his bad debate. I challenge someone 1/2 of Joe Bidens age to do so well under so much pressure.
tman
(1,260 posts)There was pressure on Biden about his fitness to run before the debate, as reflected in his poor approval numbers for an incumbent going into an election and his head to head match-ups against trump.
..so Biden went into the debate (as the known underdog) with one key objective. Kill the narrative that he was 'mentally unfit' for the job. He failed disastrously, and his post debate clean-up interview may have been more damaging than the debate itself.
Up until he decided to run again, Biden could be seen as a good leader who brought the country back from the ruinous trump years. In his final year, he was a poor communicator who could obviously not stand the rigors of a presidential campaign. The debate was a preview of worse things to come, and most objective democratic pollsters believe he would've lost worse than Harris did.
Jake Tapper is a clown and we know media aren't fair, but the gaslighting from the Biden world should never be dismissed.
70sEraVet
(5,675 posts)He was TERRIBLE! He made up for it in the next debate. We all have 'off' days. But Biden wasn't just debating trump -- he was debating with the American people to prove that he had it in him to serve another four years. So, in a sense, he lost TWO debates that night. And lost BADLY.
I have no doubt that Joe thought he was up to the job. I can't say what the people around him thought. I would STILL rather have Joe for President than the criminal we have now, even if Jake Tapper and the rest are right about his mental decline.
My ¢2.
PatSeg
(53,713 posts)It was just awful and so painful to watch.
stopdiggin
(15,701 posts)3Hotdogs
(15,612 posts)there ----- well maybe.
But then, after the debate, you don't tell the staff to get him to Walter Reed to make sure it wasn't a stroke....
Fuck me, but the 'splanation ain't splainin nuthin.
stopdiggin
(15,701 posts)I have seen Joe Biden in public appearances since the 'disastrous debate' - and I think I (and the nation) could live well (and sleep quite soundly) with the level of acuity on display. Also - not at all convinced (or see sound evidence) that 'another candidate' would have had a better shot of beating Trump. The 'malaise' was baked in, and the electorate was in a 'crappy' mood. As evidenced ... And thirdly - and something that seems to be conveniently passed over or forgotten, by those otherwise accounted politically savvy - is the inherent power of incumbency. Something that no political institution (or player) has ever been happy to lightly p*ss away. Nor should! (have they any sort of political acumen)
The cancer diagnosis is of course another thing ... And, to my knowledge, did not play into ...
But the notion that Joe Biden was a shambling wreck - known to all - during the greater portion of his White House residency ... Belies what many of us saw. And I believe to be a convenient (and opportunistic?) re-write of the actual conditions. And I believe further - that Jill Biden (and many others) were legitimately surprised by the 'debate'.
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Joinfortmill
(21,774 posts)I'm 77. From the front view, I'm quite presentable. From the side view I look like the Wicked Witch of the East. So, there's that.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,688 posts)PatSeg
(53,713 posts)I hope I live to see Biden get the recognition that he deserves. He accomplished so much during his four years in the White House and all we hear is how frail and incompetent he was. That's certainly not what I witnessed.
Some of the legislation that he got passed with such small majorities was incredible and it was legislation that made a huge difference in the lives of so many people. And of course there was the handling of the pandemic.
stopdiggin
(15,701 posts)crimycarny
(2,103 posts)Those 12 days of international travel before the debate werent exactly low profile, low pressure state dinners. He went to France for a D-Day ceremony, where he made an amazing speech. Flew back to US, then flew to Italy for the G7 summit, then back to LA for a fundraiser! If Joe was in such decline that his staff was trying to keep him out of the public eye, I find those events a very odd way to do so.
Joe Biden had to run under a media microscope with every single misspeak exaggerated way out of proportion (which, by the way, Joe Biden has done since he started as a Senator at 29), and his own party throwing him under the bus.
If the GOP could get a 34-time convicted felon, rapist, and inciter of January 6th elected, what does that say about the Democratic Party who cant get an incumbent with one of the best legislative records since FDR re-elected?
CBHagman
(17,550 posts)...and understood the reasoning behind it. There are so many factors that go into an administration and a presidential race, and here in the United States, we're in reelection season almost from Inauguration Day on.
On top of all that, President Biden came in at a time of crisis and was looking at a number of larger long-standing issues, such as poverty and cancer research.
MichMan
(17,471 posts)LymphocyteLover
(10,253 posts)stopdiggin
(15,701 posts)would it have been enough ... ?
But the notion that Biden had so turned off - - or that 'another candidate' was going to so energize the party ...
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Tommy Carcetti
(44,594 posts)There's no one to blame for Trump but the assholes who voted for him, and any idiots who sat 2024 out.
Callie1979
(1,437 posts)He was my pick from day one in 2020's primary
But when he announced to run again I knew we were in trouble.
dem4decades
(14,481 posts)twodogsbarking
(19,491 posts)Lemon Lyman
(1,631 posts)Im disgusted with the interviews of her over the past few days. Rita Braver on CBS Sunday Morning was awful to her. Braver spent most of the interview asking shitty questions about President Biden & Hunter. She kept doing the A lot of people think or A lot of people have questions. As has been said, the interviewers have been harder on her (shes there to talk about her new book, mind you) than they have been in Shirley and all of his corruption.
Some media we have.
BidenRocks
(3,561 posts)Since I like Joe I will remind everyone about casting dispersions on him.
Under the rule about not relitigating past elections.
It's over!
I am tired of the negativity! Right Oddball?
Joinfortmill
(21,774 posts)stopdiggin
(15,701 posts)kacekwl
(9,274 posts)don't understand what exactly is the problem people have with President Biden. The I don't like Biden folks who never explain what the issue was. Life was pretty damn good during his presidency his vice presidency. What is it ?
MervinFerd
(2,124 posts)Two points:
1. Trump's performance was horrific. In a healthy media and political environment, he should have been rejected. He should never have been treated as a serious candidate after that.
2. A major problem for Biden was that many Democrats simply lost confidence in him. That was an emotional factor that could not be overcome with verbal assurances. His -physical- frailty made it difficult for him to regain trust.