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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Biggest Story of the Day went unnoticed by many DUers. Makes me sad.
The fact that the White House was seriously considering suspending Habeous Corpus because there were pissed that judges were interfering with their immigration goals. Also they were considering invoking the Insurrection Act following the murder of Alex Pretti. I read the whole article and was really frightened.
I am really afraid about the midterms. If they start messing with voters or seizing ballots in blue areas there is gonna be an uproar. People are not gonna stand for it and I believe they will show up and raise hell. States may have to call out their National Guards to protect the people and the vote. It is a scenario that the Administration may find ripe for invoking the Insurrection Act.
I truly do not trust that Trump will be willing to give up his power. Especially if it looks like we will take the Senate as well.
Please read the article. It is chilling.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/15/us/politics/trump-scharf-habeas-corpus-insurrection-act.html?unlocked_article_code=1.qVA.udsu.XAy4X9FMTHHA&smid=url-share
MustLoveBeagles
(18,094 posts)Also bookmarking.
LoisB
(13,711 posts)usonian
(26,961 posts)Understand the coup plan. Expose it, Explain it and encourage everyone to do the right and appropriate thing to stop it
Some of us knew full well.
Ponietz
(4,546 posts)I think the most important story today is MF47s surrender terms.
LymphocyteLover
(10,337 posts)cachukis
(4,154 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(24,358 posts)But, IIRC, the article said he was opposed to the suggestion from Miller and Vance to suspend Habeas.
Im not chilled or afraid - while I dont welcome such action, if they did try and suspend Habeas, it would trigger the biggest constitutional crisis since the civil war.
Anyone held without Habeas could be ordered immediately released by the courts. Despite mythology to the contrary, this administration follows court orders the vast majority of the time, preferring to get stays pending appeal (which they wouldnt get in this case) rather than outright defiance.
It might be the catalyst congress would need to impeach and remove the bastard (and I think he knows it, which is why he shot down the idea).
Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami.
hookaleft
(1,153 posts)Trump wasn't in opposition, Vance and Miller were encouraging it. The only thing that saved us was a memo by a WH attorney named Scharf.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,358 posts)They go judge shopping and get a quick stay pending appeal in the vast majority of the cases they lose in court. If they dont get a stay, then they obey, 99% of the time.
The 1% where they dont quickly and clearly comply is almost always foot dragging or deadline pushing waiting for the stay to be issued.
There is a huge legal and constitutional difference between getting a stay pending appeal and openly defying a court order without a stay.
hookaleft
(1,153 posts)How ICE defies judges orders to release detainees, step by step
A POLITICO review of hundreds of cases brought by ICE detainees shows a pattern of noncompliance that has frustrated judges across the country.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/10/ice-immigration-detention-court-orders-00771727
Judge issues criminal contempt threat over ignored immigration orders
https://newjerseymonitor.com/2026/03/03/judge-issues-criminal-contempt-threat-over-ignored-immigration-orders/
Judges in Maine cases admonish ICE for falsehoods and violating court orders
https://themainemonitor.org/judges-admonish-ice-falsehoods-violating-court-orders/
Confrontation in Court: How to Hold the Trump Administration Accountable for Violating Court Orders
https://www.justsecurity.org/131966/trump-administration-accountable-violating-court-orders/
Judge in Minnesota Says ICE Has Violated Nearly 100 Court Orders
A federal judge said ICE had disobeyed more judicial directives this month than some federal agencies have violated in their entire existence.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/28/us/politics/judge-minnesota-ice-court-orders.html
Federal judge a Scalia protege again rips ICE for ignoring court orders in Minnesota
https://minnesotareformer.com/briefs/federal-judge-a-scalia-protege-again-rips-ice-for-ignoring-court-orders-in-minnesota/
Courts have ruled 4,400 times that ICE jailed people illegally. It hasnt stopped.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/courts-have-ruled-4400-times-that-ice-jailed-people-illegally-it-hasnt-stopped-2026-02-14/
Judges Grow Angry Over Trump Administration Violating Their Orders
At least 35 times since August, federal judges have ordered the administration to explain why it should not be punished for violating their orders in immigration cases.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/23/us/politics/judges-contempt-immigration-trump.html
There are a hundred more. I got tired.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,358 posts)Just from your first Politico link, there are lots of qualifiers such as delay and obfuscation that indicate there are far more instances of legal and technical game playing than outright defiance.
Peoples rights have been abused, and the game playing is an attempt to avoid contempt citations and disbarment, while failing to meet Millers ridiculous deportation quotas.
Thats why Kilmer Garcia is a free man back on US soil, and Liam Ramos is home with his dad in Minnesota.
the nelm
(310 posts)in and of itself. When push comes to shove against this BS, and they find themselves backed against a wall, who knows what rattfuckery they might resort to to stay in power.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,358 posts)LuvLoogie
(9,009 posts)I mean, RNSTL E
msongs
(74,409 posts)Figarosmom
(14,394 posts)We did have posts about it. One of which I posted this morning.
LetMyPeopleVote
(183,494 posts)Secret memos show that the White House debated last year, to a greater degree than previously known, whether to limit habeas corpus rights for undocumented immigrants.
Link to tweet
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/15/us/politics/trump-scharf-habeas-corpus-insurrection-act.html?unlocked_article_code=1.qVA.udsu.XAy4X9FMTHHA&smid=url-share
Dated April 29, 2025, and stamped confidential, the memo was careful and lawyerly but amounted to a warning against end-running the rule of law. The subject line read: THE WRIT OF HABEAS CORPUS......
Inside the White House, Mr. Miller, the influential deputy chief of staff, saw an opening for an idea he had raised previously: What if Mr. Trump simply claimed the power to suspend habeas corpus?
Then the locked-up immigrants would be blocked from receiving hearings or even from seeking court orders to prevent their removal from the country. This was an opportunity for Mr. Trump not only to speed up deportations, but also to assert vastly expanded power over a legal system that was getting in his way......
Habeas corpus had been formally suspended only four times, most recently after Pearl Harbor. In every case, the country was at war or facing armed rebellion. Only Lincoln, at the start of the Civil War, had ever claimed the power without congressional authorization, and only during a long congressional recess......
Under immense public pressure, the administration would subsequently take a different course of action. The most vocal immigration hard-liner, Gregory Bovino, the Customs and Border Protection commander-at-large, was removed from his post, and the administration held back on ICE pushes in cities in the weeks after Mr. Prettis death.
Yet just as the idea of suspending habeas corpus was set aside but never fully abandoned by some inside the White House, the Insurrection Act, at least in the eyes of its proponents, would remain a loaded weapon in a West Wing eager to test the limits of presidential power.
There is a long and detailed article on the discussions in the trump White House on suspending the writ of habeas corpus or invoking the Insurrection Act. After reading this article, I am scared. Firing Bovino was the right move but I fear that if trump loses the midterms, we may see the writ of habeas corpus suspended.
Callie1979
(1,464 posts)Maybe thats only for HIS people.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,913 posts)Callie1979
(1,464 posts)popsdenver
(2,757 posts)The Republicans, Trump, Steven Miller, JDVance, Russell Vought, 2025, Christian Nationalists, Federation creeps , etc have years left.......
I suspect it is gonna get far worse............starting with all the massive corruption they have planned for the mid-term election....
(It's June already, and I still don't hear much from most of the Dem Politicians......)
hookaleft
(1,153 posts)Dem AGs plot to thwart Trump election interference
Theyre running war-games as they brace for what Trump could do.
Democratic attorneys general are bracing for President Donald Trump to interfere in the midterm elections and war-gaming how to stop him.
The partys top prosecutors have been strategizing for months about how to counter a series of increasingly extreme scenarios they fear could play out this fall. They have huddled in hotel conference rooms and over Zoom meetings to run tabletop exercises anticipating the presidents moves and choreographing responses.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/23/democratic-attorneys-general-trump-election-meddling-midterms-00792192
The Democratic Attorney Generals are on top of this. I just saw a video with Rob Bonta the AG of California he is on it.
hookaleft
(1,153 posts)Dem AGs plot to thwart Trump election interference
Theyre running war-games as they brace for what Trump could do.
Democratic attorneys general are bracing for President Donald Trump to interfere in the midterm elections and war-gaming how to stop him.
The partys top prosecutors have been strategizing for months about how to counter a series of increasingly extreme scenarios they fear could play out this fall. They have huddled in hotel conference rooms and over Zoom meetings to run tabletop exercises anticipating the presidents moves and choreographing responses.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/23/democratic-attorneys-general-trump-election-meddling-midterms-00792192
The Democratic Attorney Generals are on top of this. I just saw a video with Rob Bonta the AG of California he is on it
watch?v=sy6Vf28f33M&t=89s
Callie1979
(1,464 posts)They're pussies. Just like Trump.
niyad
(135,034 posts)struggle4progress
(127,018 posts)The tribute we pay shall be prisons and graves! ...
... we owe no allegiance, we bow to no throne,
Our ruler is law and the law is our own;
Our leaders themselves are our own fellow-men,
Who can handle the sword, or the scythe, or the pen ...
Amaryllis
(11,516 posts)sop
(19,714 posts)BumRushDaShow
(173,137 posts)Potentially related to this most recent case - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143678287
RockRaven
(19,949 posts)Akakoji
(607 posts)Substack is aflame with the story. The Haberman Swann book comes out next week.
sprinkleeninow
(22,503 posts)cliffside
(1,838 posts)Jack Valentino
(5,339 posts)If they ever do, I will do my best to help provoke it!!!!
(but not on the 'front lines'-- I lack physical courage because I lost 'my immortality' when I got old,
and can't get around as easily as in the past--- but I'm a hella internet armchair warrior!)
If they invoke the Insurrection Act, they may just create a REAL insurrection!---
and it won't be aimed at the U.S. Capital building this time....
The MANGO MUSSOLINI better just 'minds his p's and q's' !
live love laugh
(16,550 posts)No wonder private prison company stock is skyrocketing.
Joinfortmill
(21,860 posts)I personally am so outraged that if anyone dares to try to interfere with me voting, they are in for a fight, and I am an old woman, which is a benefit, because I've lived my life and I have no more fucks to give. I'm done with Donald and his thugs.
HighFired49
(534 posts)we're double deadly when pissed off
,since most people tend to ignore or dismiss us.
Kid Berwyn
(25,372 posts)
free thinkers and all who support the Constitution of the United States of America.
Fuck Trump.
dalton99a
(96,009 posts)He is constantly thinking of ways to loot and steal and destroy
dave99
(393 posts)Happy Hoosier
(9,700 posts)when the whole house is on fire, it's hard to take particular notice of the garage burning down.
Everything sucks.
ChicagoTeamster
(1,414 posts)Or wait til after they lose to prevent the changeover to the new Congress.
dave99
(393 posts)Martin68
(28,210 posts)through. That's a good thing. Saner heads prevailed over the fascist loonies. "After weeks of uproar, and disagreement between government officials on whether it could be done, the proposal eventually faded from view. Asked about it later, Mr. Trump appeared to acknowledge discussing suspending habeas corpus, but downplayed that the discussions were serious, and suggested it was not worth doing so just then."
Lulu KC
(8,917 posts)I think--just saw it fly by. Putting it here with yours so I can go back and climb out from under my Ignorance Is Bliss rock, which I do later in the day.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/16/trump-voting-rights-elections