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Sorry Dan Goldman was defeated tonight (Original Post) Chasstev365 Yesterday OP
Or run for the Senate. RandySF Yesterday #1
I'd love to see him in Schumer's seat! mountain grammy 22 hrs ago #33
He would be excellent in the Senate. I hope he runs. n/t Greybnk48 22 hrs ago #34
That's a shame canetoad Yesterday #2
Goldman was a heavy hitter for Dems during oasis Yesterday #6
AIPAC funding appears to be a liability these days. Scrivener7 Yesterday #3
being jewish is a liability these days. mopinko 23 hrs ago #12
Must be why Lander won. AloeVera 23 hrs ago #15
Yeah, Lander is very jewish yet somehow won. mr715 23 hrs ago #18
No. You cannot separate Israel from the Jewish people or vice versa. legallyblondeNYC 4 hrs ago #65
Oh come on. mr715 4 hrs ago #66
This reply is nonsensical. legallyblondeNYC 2 hrs ago #71
Brad Lander is Jewish. PufPuf23 23 hrs ago #21
Um, Brad Lander is Jewish. choie 23 hrs ago #24
Seriously? vanlassie 21 hrs ago #39
Clearly not in this case. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #43
Except Brad Lander is Jewish obamanut2012 11 hrs ago #51
The guy that beat him is jewish JBTaurus83 11 hrs ago #53
How are Jews going to be safe from all of those Jews that voted for that Jew Lander? AStern 7 hrs ago #64
Lander got TWICE as many votes. AloeVera 23 hrs ago #14
Lander got 66% or so. Potent repudiation of AIPAC and allies. mr715 23 hrs ago #17
Yes, and Goldman 33%. AloeVera 23 hrs ago #19
I think in many voters minds, those are the same thing. But yes, I take your point. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #45
You are right of course. AloeVera 12 hrs ago #47
NO! It's an important distinction for some. Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #48
When it becomes a political liability to send blank checks to genociders Prairie Gates Yesterday #4
Perhaps his refusal to endorse Mamdani, who is quite popular in NY factored in. Nanjeanne Yesterday #5
Yep. And to be clear, endorse in the general election Hassin Bin Sober 23 hrs ago #20
Yes. So glad Lander won. He's going to be a terrific Congressman. Nanjeanne 12 hrs ago #46
He would make a good Deputy Attorney General kentuck Yesterday #7
That's sad. He is amongst the best. Dave says Yesterday #8
Attorney General material. Sneederbunk 23 hrs ago #16
Hey! Now THERE'S an interesting idea. calimary 22 hrs ago #30
Hate to see him go jmbar2 Yesterday #9
I am too. He certainly has skills and abilities that should not be wasted... hlthe2b Yesterday #10
Wow. underpants 23 hrs ago #11
I am too. I was a big fan of his work during the first Trump impeachment. Tommy Carcetti 23 hrs ago #13
He'll be fine. He did spend a bunch of his own money... littlemissmartypants 23 hrs ago #22
More good news to light up my life... BigmanPigman 23 hrs ago #23
What's behind the hostility toward primaries? hurl 23 hrs ago #25
What's wrong with expressing regret to see a good public servant go? RandySF 23 hrs ago #26
He will be gone for a bit, and then come back better in some way. EndlessMaze 22 hrs ago #27
Perhaps ITAL 19 hrs ago #42
Agreed. I'm seeing all these grand predictions that he could be the next US Senator and .... losing one's House seat Midwestern Democrat 10 hrs ago #58
His electoral career is over. mr715 10 hrs ago #61
Nothing at all hurl 22 hrs ago #28
Part of being a public servant is accepting when to go. mr715 10 hrs ago #60
There are a lot of Netanyahu and corporate JBTaurus83 11 hrs ago #54
As a Californian have little knowledge FHRRK1 22 hrs ago #29
Post removed Post removed 22 hrs ago #32
See one reply got hidden FHRRK1 21 hrs ago #40
Also in CA -- Porter is neither far right nor far left obamanut2012 11 hrs ago #52
It is simple. NY-10 is VERY progressive. The only reason Goldman first won (in 2022) was because so many Celerity 21 hrs ago #41
Both good candidates....I think it NYC is on a roll, may the joy spread nationally!! walkingman 22 hrs ago #31
I am happy Lander won. Celerity 22 hrs ago #35
So am I! I always thought of him as one of our very best, he was lead counsel for the felon's impeachment trial Rhiannon12866 22 hrs ago #36
Next time you have the chance NJCher 22 hrs ago #37
Dan Goldman is a good man and a good Democrat. Brad Lander is a good man and a good Democrat. Quiet Em 22 hrs ago #38
Yes, I agree! QueerDuck 15 hrs ago #44
If Schumer retires in 28 SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #49
Brad Lander is a good guy obamanut2012 11 hrs ago #50
Weighing in from TX so I could be off - TBF 11 hrs ago #55
Bottom line: Vote for the DEMOCRAT in the GENERAL election. DinahMoeHum 11 hrs ago #56
Yes ma'am - I know it gets emotional in primaries TBF 10 hrs ago #59
Dan Goldman will once again be appointed lead impeachment prosecutor when we win the House, lapucelle 11 hrs ago #57
The people of NY-10 will have great representation. AloeVera 9 hrs ago #62
They deserve what they voted for. N/T lapucelle 7 hrs ago #63
I wish there wasn't the clear implication here... mr715 4 hrs ago #67
Got it. Thanks for answering my questions so clearly. N/T AloeVera 3 hrs ago #70
I like how some tried to make it seem like there was division between Mamdani & Brad Lander SunImp 4 hrs ago #68
They ran for mayor as a team. mr715 3 hrs ago #69

oasis

(54,308 posts)
6. Goldman was a heavy hitter for Dems during
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:12 PM
Yesterday

congressional hearings. He held witnesses’ feet to the fire.

mr715

(4,841 posts)
18. Yeah, Lander is very jewish yet somehow won.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:40 PM
23 hrs ago

Some can separate the actions of a nation (Israel) from the tenets of a religion (Judaism).

Some people's politics are focused on the USA and not overseas apartheid states that are our "BIBLICAL" ally.

AloeVera

(4,631 posts)
14. Lander got TWICE as many votes.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:34 PM
23 hrs ago

This in spite of the endorsement of Goldman by Democratic luminaries Schumer, Jeffries, Hochul and Pelosi.

No, this was not just AIPAC. It was a massive repudiation by voters of the centrist/moderate position on Gaza and the unconditional support for Israel.

AloeVera

(4,631 posts)
19. Yes, and Goldman 33%.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:42 PM
23 hrs ago

Massive repudiation not just of AIPAC but the centrist/moderate position on Gaza and unconditioned funding to Israel.

Prairie Gates

(8,649 posts)
4. When it becomes a political liability to send blank checks to genociders
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:48 PM
Yesterday

Maybe people will reconsider.

calimary

(91,431 posts)
30. Hey! Now THERE'S an interesting idea.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:38 PM
22 hrs ago

He’d be good at it. And it would pump up his profile, too - for possible future campaigns.

jmbar2

(8,271 posts)
9. Hate to see him go
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:22 PM
Yesterday

I'm not a New Yorker, so not up on all the details, but he always seemed to be a solid, decent fighter. We need to find a new role for him. He is a keeper.

hlthe2b

(115,168 posts)
10. I am too. He certainly has skills and abilities that should not be wasted...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:26 PM
Yesterday

There is certainly a need for more help on these voter disenfranchisement lawsuits that Marc Elias and his team (and others) are involved in.

I'm sorry he lost this time around. I thought he was an effective Congressman.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,611 posts)
13. I am too. I was a big fan of his work during the first Trump impeachment.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:33 PM
23 hrs ago

And was happy to have seen him parlay that into public service.

Rather disappointed by that outcome.

littlemissmartypants

(35,422 posts)
22. He'll be fine. He did spend a bunch of his own money...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:05 PM
23 hrs ago

But as an heir to the Levi Strauss & Co's fortune, his net worth is about a quarter of a billion.

Brad Lander, on the other hand, built his progressive campaign on small-dollar donations and grassroots energy.

Congratulations to all of the winners.

BigmanPigman

(55,742 posts)
23. More good news to light up my life...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:08 PM
23 hrs ago


Every fucking day is the same as the previous day, only shittier due to the sadistic, greedy, psychopathic fake POTUS.

hurl

(1,068 posts)
25. What's behind the hostility toward primaries?
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:24 PM
23 hrs ago

It seems to me that the locals in NY, who presumably know these candidates best, made their own decision. This looks like the most 'small-d' democratic outcome. I liked Goldman too and thought he was brilliant in his very public Trump opposition. That said, should I be upset if voters in that district, the very ones with the most to gain or lose, thought they could do even better?

Midwestern Democrat

(1,055 posts)
58. Agreed. I'm seeing all these grand predictions that he could be the next US Senator and .... losing one's House seat
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:00 PM
10 hrs ago

by over 30 points is not typically a springboard to higher office - US Senator or Governor - a result like that is much more typically the end of one's political career.

mr715

(4,841 posts)
61. His electoral career is over.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:23 PM
10 hrs ago

He may very well receive an executive or ambassadorial job. The private sector is always there.

He certainly will be extremely wealthy and never want for anything in his personal life re: possessions

mr715

(4,841 posts)
60. Part of being a public servant is accepting when to go.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:21 PM
10 hrs ago

I empathize with you in spirit. It is disheartening to see people we've seen fight for us lose because of our inherent human tribalism. They're with our team, so we want them to win.

Please understand I am not trying to box you into feeling a certain way, I'm simply offering my perspective on coping with, shall we say, electoral disappointment.

I've stated before on this forum that it is healthier to view our elected officials strictly through a transactional, public policy agenda. When we are in a primary we ask ourselves, of the choices presented, which of these fulfills the conditions to both achieve the tactical victory of getting elected and the strategic victory of advancing social justice and protecting liberty.

Within this space, "narratives" or other electoral currents drift the conversation one way or the other. In this case, the endorsement of Mamdani and the general anti-establishment, anti-genocide currents pulled an incumbent down and elevated a pseudo-insurgent. I say "pseudo" because Lander is by no means an outsider or without independent qualifications of his own. His candidacy cannot be compared to true insurgent candidacies like Graham Platner or Zohran Mamdani himself.

At this point in history, I am of the opinion that the Democratic party is feeling a need to resist against old paradigms that have given us essentially no political success in the 21st century.

Finding "heroes" in politicians is a recipe for heartbreak because they aren't heroes. They are humans with ambitions. Moreover, they are often compromised by the system that elevates and exalts the rich and the powerful at the expense of those without. This selects for a 'ruling class' of self-interested, arrogant, and insulated leaders.

I was real sad to see Al Franken go, for example. I read his books. He made me laugh. But, on the whole, there was no value lost because his replacement was just as competent as he is, and he got to continue fighting the good fight on a different front than in the Senate. While I was sad to see him go, I processed that he isn't my personal friend and he isn't owed anything by virtue of being famous or having occupied the position he had.

So look... I feel like I know where you are coming from. I hope I understand. We are on the same team.

JBTaurus83

(1,848 posts)
54. There are a lot of Netanyahu and corporate
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 10:42 AM
11 hrs ago

Water carriers who are upset that they are being challenged. The guy should have run a better campaign. Such is life, it’s a primary and he lost.

Response to FHRRK1 (Reply #29)

FHRRK1

(202 posts)
40. See one reply got hidden
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:03 AM
21 hrs ago

But still would like to see some locals weigh in. You want info on why Katie Porter flamed out, I'm your guy, live in the District she represented.
Did see some info in thread below, but here is my take. And it is basic physics. Push an object on a string far right and it will correct to far left. The middle/pliable five percent swings with the force. That's it.

Now a lot of other factors get mentioned and overblown, but it really comes down the physics, or just the feelings of the pliable 5%. With that, it seems like races like these may create infighting. Please remember, that infighting makes the pliable five percenters relavent.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221326227

obamanut2012

(29,668 posts)
52. Also in CA -- Porter is neither far right nor far left
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 10:35 AM
11 hrs ago

Brad Lander is not "far left." Lander is also Jewish, so he is not antisemitic.

Celerity

(55,327 posts)
41. It is simple. NY-10 is VERY progressive. The only reason Goldman first won (in 2022) was because so many
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:22 AM
21 hrs ago

progressives foolishly all ran and split the vote, allowing Goldman to win the seat by winning only 25.8 per cent of the vote in the primary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_New_York#District_10





In 2024, no serious candidate ran against Goldman, and yet he still only got 66.1 per cent of the vote in the primary.



In 2026, once Lander got in, no other major progressive ran against him (and Goldman) in the primary, so Lander easily beat Goldman.

Rhiannon12866

(260,975 posts)
36. So am I! I always thought of him as one of our very best, he was lead counsel for the felon's impeachment trial
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:05 AM
22 hrs ago

I'm also in New York and have always wished than I had Rep. Goldman instead of Stefanik.

NJCher

(43,802 posts)
37. Next time you have the chance
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:27 AM
22 hrs ago

To hear Lander speak, notice how articulate he is. Not only is he able to articulate complex concepts exceedingly well, his rate of speech is perfect. I always make a point to listen to him WNYC.

Quiet Em

(3,227 posts)
38. Dan Goldman is a good man and a good Democrat. Brad Lander is a good man and a good Democrat.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:28 AM
22 hrs ago

This was not a loss for the Democratic Party.

NY's 10th still has excellent representation in the House.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,309 posts)
49. If Schumer retires in 28
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 09:52 AM
12 hrs ago

and AOC doesn't run for that seat, he should go for it. He'd make a fine Senate candidate.

TBF

(37,610 posts)
55. Weighing in from TX so I could be off -
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 10:45 AM
11 hrs ago

but my guess is that even with establishment dems, some will fall due to an anti-establishment mood in the country right now. I'm glad a good progressive was elected but would've been fine w/either.

Hopefully when we get through these primaries and to the general that anti-establishment feeling will hold and usher out a lot of republicans. Then we can put Trump in lame duck status where he belongs.

DinahMoeHum

(23,751 posts)
56. Bottom line: Vote for the DEMOCRAT in the GENERAL election.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 10:59 AM
11 hrs ago

no matter who wins in the primary.

Eyes on the prize, folks.

TBF

(37,610 posts)
59. Yes ma'am - I know it gets emotional in primaries
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:18 PM
10 hrs ago

lots of activists on this site who believe strongly in their candidates. But after we have to come together and push in every dem! 100% agree w/you!!

lapucelle

(21,227 posts)
57. Dan Goldman will once again be appointed lead impeachment prosecutor when we win the House,
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 11:02 AM
11 hrs ago

serve in the next Democratic administration (possibly as Attorney General), and run for Senate (and likely win) when a seat opens.

Meanwhile, the folks in NY-10 will get exactly the representation that they deserve.





AloeVera

(4,631 posts)
62. The people of NY-10 will have great representation.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:21 PM
9 hrs ago

I am sure that's what you meant. Right?

After all, that is what the people of NY-10 deserve. Right?

SunImp

(2,747 posts)
68. I like how some tried to make it seem like there was division between Mamdani & Brad Lander
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:19 PM
4 hrs ago

mr715

(4,841 posts)
69. They ran for mayor as a team.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:35 PM
3 hrs ago

Mamdani would not have won if it were not for his symbiotic relationship with Lander.

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