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Jilly_in_VA

(14,751 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:05 PM Yesterday

New York sweep by Israel critics shines light on a fraught issue for Democrats

When Varun Venkatesh cast his ballot in New York’s primary this week, he thought about “a good litmus test for me as a voter.” He wanted to know what the candidates are doing for the Palestinian cause.

The 27-year-old Brooklyn resident decided to support Claire Valdez, who was backed by Mayor Zohran Mamdani, over Antonio Reynoso, another progressive who was the choice of the Democratic establishment, because she had “a clear and more consistent stance.”

Valdez triumphed in her congressional primary, as did two other insurgent candidates endorsed by Mamdani, and Israel was a key issue in each of the races. Now the question for Democrats is how many more voters like Venkatesh are out there as the party charts its path toward the November midterms and the next presidential election.

The war in Gaza began with Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023, attack on Israel, which responded with a yearslong counterattack that left more than 73,000 dead. About 1,000 have died since a ceasefire was reached in October, according to the Hamas-run health ministry that does not differentiate between civilian and combatant casualties.

Human rights groups and a United Nations commission have described Israel’s actions as a genocide, a charge that’s been rejected by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

https://apnews.com/article/mamdani-democrats-new-york-israel-palestine-01de0690f2fb99e89cb40817b7da0f66

Is the tide turning?

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New York sweep by Israel critics shines light on a fraught issue for Democrats (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Yesterday OP
It's only a controversial issue for the donor class. JBTaurus83 Yesterday #1
Really? Danmel Yesterday #2
I'm not insinuating anything JBTaurus83 Yesterday #4
Why are you concerned about criticism of CivicGrief Yesterday #6
I don't see it as fraught anymore. Happy Hoosier Yesterday #3
I share this feeling JBTaurus83 Yesterday #5
All proof that israel is needed as a Jewish state Danmel Yesterday #14
This will be an important issue for me this cycle as well. 3_Limes Yesterday #7
Just speaking for myself here obviously JBTaurus83 Yesterday #9
That's exactly how I feel Jilly_in_VA 6 hrs ago #18
Is the tide turning? I certainly hope so. Nanjeanne Yesterday #8
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Yesterday #10
Democrats held personally responsible for complex war involving PM of one country and a terrorist group in another. betsuni Yesterday #11
Hard to believe it was anyone's preconceived strategy, KPN Yesterday #12
Are they being held personally responsible for that war or their thoughts about it and what they support our Eko Yesterday #15
In CD-7 NJ JustAnotherGen Yesterday #13
Only one? A shame... electric_blue68 Yesterday #16
Three primary candidates in MineralMan Yesterday #17

Danmel

(5,824 posts)
2. Really?
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:22 PM
Yesterday

I'm concerned about this. I'm a Jewish New Yorker, not part of any "donor " class. What are you insinuating here?

JBTaurus83

(1,848 posts)
4. I'm not insinuating anything
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:31 PM
Yesterday

The people who have funded and supported the wars and genocide in Gaza, Lebanon and Iran are the “donor class”. The military industrialists, the rich people that give to both parties. I mean no disrespect to you or any Jewish person anywhere in the USA.

CivicGrief

(394 posts)
6. Why are you concerned about criticism of
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:39 PM
Yesterday

genocide? Bibi’s words may deny it, but his actions confirm it.

Happy Hoosier

(9,721 posts)
3. I don't see it as fraught anymore.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:29 PM
Yesterday

Israel has chosen a path I personally cannot support. They have decided that Oct 7 is their causus belli to seize and annex territory. And they are willing to kill a LOT of innocent people to do it. I have been a supporter of Israel and it's right to exist. But their behavior over the last 2 years especially is something I cannot support.

There is nothing Antisemetic about opposing the current Israeli government.

JBTaurus83

(1,848 posts)
5. I share this feeling
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:37 PM
Yesterday

I am not Jewish, but; I grew up in a small town and Judaism was a religion other than Christianity in my area so I decided to educate myself and attend their synagogue for a bit. Wonderful compassionate people, and the rabbi who was a woman oversaw a lesbian wedding I attended.

I was always very sympathetic towards Israel, and after the terror attack in their country. Everything that has happened afterwards has been a downward spiral though, and I cannot in good conscience support it or any religious/ethno state.

Danmel

(5,824 posts)
14. All proof that israel is needed as a Jewish state
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:30 PM
Yesterday

When you can tell me who you have asked to hide you, you can tell me otherwise.

3_Limes

(621 posts)
7. This will be an important issue for me this cycle as well.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:49 PM
Yesterday

Having -strongly- supported Israel for decades I can no longer tolerate what they've become. Any candidates in favor or ending our generosity in that direction will certainly move toward the top of my list.

JBTaurus83

(1,848 posts)
9. Just speaking for myself here obviously
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:54 PM
Yesterday

But; if they would change their policies and actually do something positive in the area, I’d be much more receptive to sending some of my tax dollars there. I do think the time is coming where they will have a reckoning. Once the USA stops supplying their weapons and supporting them; they have no one left.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,751 posts)
18. That's exactly how I feel
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 10:12 AM
6 hrs ago

I was a passionate supporter of Israel for most of my life, and I still see the need for a Jewish state, but not a rapacious Jewish state committing genocide upon its neighbors.

Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

betsuni

(29,431 posts)
11. Democrats held personally responsible for complex war involving PM of one country and a terrorist group in another.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 02:23 PM
Yesterday

Whoever thought that up to divide the party really got lucky.

KPN

(17,592 posts)
12. Hard to believe it was anyone's preconceived strategy,
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 02:30 PM
Yesterday

but who am I to really know. I just can’t imagine it, and that’s good enough for me.

Eko

(10,181 posts)
15. Are they being held personally responsible for that war or their thoughts about it and what they support our
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:42 PM
Yesterday

government doing to support, influence or even stop said war? Seems to me like the latter since I've yet to see any Democratic candidate or politician actually being held personally responsible for what is happening there.

JustAnotherGen

(38,212 posts)
13. In CD-7 NJ
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:30 PM
Yesterday

My vote in the primary between the last 4 candidates - was based solely on the fact that he was the ONLY one of the four to make a clear, concise statement about Black Americans losing our right to vote. If ONE loses it in the South - We have ALL (Black Americans) lost it.

This is a moral and survival issue for me. It's 1877 - and we know white America is absolutely vicious in Jim Crow environments. Given the framework - we have 100 years of prior behavior to look to as a prediction of current and future behavior.

Some folks are for Palestine, some are for abortion rights -


But Black Americans are Black first. The party would be wise to heed the warning. We ARE our Ancestors. If we go back - America isn't going to like how we Play the Game this round.

electric_blue68

(27,899 posts)
16. Only one? A shame...
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:43 PM
Yesterday

The 2 step evisceration of the VRA first in either '11 or '13, and then recently is hideous. Plus various voter rolls purges in certain States.

(in fact you just reminded me of something. I have to go check Ty)
Oh well couldn't get through by phone...back to you.

I don't know what can be done right now except State by State but I'd hope Dems if we get the Congress again fight for some new VRA version. Let 😬 the SCOTUS 6 try and ruin the next one!

Rachel reported Mon I think some
positive news out of Georgia and a Black representative district.

MineralMan

(152,036 posts)
17. Three primary candidates in
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 04:15 PM
Yesterday

Three NYC house districts do not add up to a "sweep." Nope.

You exaggerate.

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