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demmiblue

(40,072 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 05:50 PM 4 hrs ago

i don't think Jeffries understands the new reality. Mamdani doesn't need the party. the party needs him.

i don’t think Jeffries understands the new reality. Mamdani doesn’t need the party. the party needs him.

shauna (@goldengateblond.bsky.social) 2026-06-24T21:34:31.430Z



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i don't think Jeffries understands the new reality. Mamdani doesn't need the party. the party needs him. (Original Post) demmiblue 4 hrs ago OP
If the majority of voters Scubamatt 4 hrs ago #1
Photo says it all. mr715 4 hrs ago #2
Actually they need each other SocialDemocrat61 4 hrs ago #3
Yes they do! Too many don't seem to get Cha 2 hrs ago #46
Don't mistake NYC Democrats MineralMan 4 hrs ago #4
Yeah, and all three won. choie 2 hrs ago #59
8 and 8 won D00ver66 1 hr ago #67
Agree. I grew up in NYC. Moving to the South was eye opening. nt Blasphemer 1 hr ago #68
Good point. I think people are getting somewhat carried away. Redleg 30 min ago #72
Good God, the DSA is a political party. intheflow 4 hrs ago #5
But intheflow... choie 2 hrs ago #60
I think that would be a GOOD thing - put numbers to theories about what the majority of Dems want. nt Blasphemer 1 hr ago #69
Carville is out there encouraging just that: demmiblue 1 hr ago #71
Does the party actually need Mamdani senseandsensibility 4 hrs ago #6
He has never run in Georgia, but I suspect if he ever did he'd know how to win. mr715 4 hrs ago #8
You're right, he would know how to win in Georgia SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #13
He has said he has no ambitions beyond being mayor. But we'll see how that goes. Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #14
If a politician ever says they aren't thinking about higher office... mr715 3 hrs ago #15
How many NYC Mayors SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #21
Dinkens didn't mr715 3 hrs ago #23
They ran SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #26
De Blasio won my heart. mr715 3 hrs ago #29
Bless your heart ❤️ SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #30
De Blasio didn't get enough credit for fixing the Bloomberg technocracy mr715 3 hrs ago #32
Very true SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #33
They both ran for higher office but it didn't work out BeyondGeography 3 hrs ago #28
Well, he can't run for president, so how much more important... LAS14 3 hrs ago #18
Bishop v. Knight mr715 3 hrs ago #24
He endorsed 3 candidates, he has ambitions. dem4decades 3 hrs ago #35
Yes, he wants NYC to thrive. Quiet Em 2 hrs ago #56
Goldman was holding NY back exactly how? dem4decades 2 hrs ago #64
I am not saying that at all. Quiet Em 1 hr ago #66
He wasn't born in the US fujiyamasan 2 hrs ago #42
Mayor of NYC is very intense Cosmocat 2 hrs ago #45
Eric Adams did it while learning Turkish mr715 2 hrs ago #51
and while being corrupt. choie 2 hrs ago #63
Totally agree! choie 2 hrs ago #61
Here in red western NY, we chose a far left candidate for the House. wnylib 3 hrs ago #16
Is Jeffries smoking something? JBTaurus83 4 hrs ago #7
Jeffries was unopposed in his primary yesterday SocialDemocrat61 4 hrs ago #9
He will win his district, but the House picks its leader. mr715 3 hrs ago #17
True SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #19
No one needs to be making drama. mr715 3 hrs ago #22
But it still doesn't make him SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #25
He is objectively not going out the door. mr715 3 hrs ago #27
Exactly my point SocialDemocrat61 3 hrs ago #31
If I might suggest Bob_in_VA 2 hrs ago #40
Actually the comment was SocialDemocrat61 2 hrs ago #44
He needs Mamdani's candidates to be in his caucus! mr715 4 hrs ago #10
I hope they vote with him, no one needs that bull. dem4decades 3 hrs ago #36
Don't want to see the Kevin McCarthy humiliation on our side? mr715 3 hrs ago #37
Couldn't have happened to a better coif. dem4decades 2 hrs ago #53
No. Leader Jeffries is not going to be Cha 2 hrs ago #47
Here's the reality Quiet Em 4 hrs ago #11
yes, totally agree. LymphocyteLover 2 hrs ago #39
Mahalo, Em.. ☮️💙🌻🕯️🕊️ Cha 2 hrs ago #49
No he didn't! Please tell me he didn't! Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #12
I didn't hear that MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #20
Lol at "..the fiend!!!!" Seems like some Cha 2 hrs ago #57
Oh yes Jeffries does................ Lovie777 3 hrs ago #34
Never did understand Pelosi's choice of him to promote Joinfortmill 3 hrs ago #38
His job is to count votes & keep the caucus together, not necessarily be a great progressive spokesperson for the party LymphocyteLover 2 hrs ago #41
I think he's also responsible for overall strategy. Joinfortmill 2 hrs ago #55
Wow. HuffPo certainly, uh, chose some pictures for that post Sympthsical 2 hrs ago #43
Good grief. QueerDuck 2 hrs ago #48
You had a choice Congressman. Buddyzbuddy 2 hrs ago #50
Jeez just say Congratulations to the winners and that you welcome them into the House and are eager to work together. Nanjeanne 2 hrs ago #52
It appears to be LilElf70 2 hrs ago #54
The arrogance. choie 2 hrs ago #58
The party needs another FDR. orthoclad 2 hrs ago #62
If would be nice if for just once, the centrist Democrats would wake up, smell the coffee, read the room, etc. Fil1957 2 hrs ago #65
The lack of critical thinking really bothers me MorbidButterflyTat 1 hr ago #70

Scubamatt

(329 posts)
1. If the majority of voters
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 05:55 PM
4 hrs ago

want the party to tack left instead of just being a ratchet for increasingly rightwing shifts by the crazy Republicans, Leader Jeffries and other establishment should listen to them. When poll after poll consistently shows that the majority of Americans align with traditional Democratic policies, maybe . . . just maybe . . . . Democratic leaders should listen to that and actually try appealing to their base instead of running away from it to some ill defined mushy middle.

Cha

(321,525 posts)
46. Yes they do! Too many don't seem to get
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:42 PM
2 hrs ago

that this is about the Midterms. We need all hands on deck... Not some inter-party fighting.

And, I'm really disappointed Congress lost Rep Dan Goldman, who is a brilliant contributor to our Democracy.

MineralMan

(152,030 posts)
4. Don't mistake NYC Democrats
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:02 PM
4 hrs ago

as representing the country. It doesn't even come close. And Mamdani only endorsed candidates in three districts.

Trust me on this.

choie

(7,108 posts)
59. Yeah, and all three won.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:16 PM
2 hrs ago

If only NYC Democrats don't represent the country, we might not be in the shitstorm we're in today.

Redleg

(7,055 posts)
72. Good point. I think people are getting somewhat carried away.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 09:58 PM
30 min ago

I think some of Mamdani's ideas can transfer across a wide range and I appreciate Mandani's political skills. I also believe that each district may have unique needs and thus needs Democratic candidates who can effectively address those needs..

intheflow

(30,304 posts)
5. Good God, the DSA is a political party.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:08 PM
4 hrs ago

If Democratic leadership wants to keep losing, keep pushing away the DSA wing of the party and become irrelevant. Otherwise, expect them to start running with their own platform which will be promoted by many in the new media sphere to the voters hungry for change.

Blasphemer

(3,635 posts)
69. I think that would be a GOOD thing - put numbers to theories about what the majority of Dems want. nt
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:45 PM
1 hr ago

demmiblue

(40,072 posts)
71. Carville is out there encouraging just that:
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 09:06 PM
1 hr ago
Carville then insisted that despite winning their Democratic primaries, “these people are not Democrats.” He then suggested that establishment Democrats “negotiate the terms of a schism” with democratic socialists in the party.


https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/im-done-im-not-in-that-fcking-political-party-james-carville-freaks-out-after-progressives-win-big-in-democratic-primaries/

senseandsensibility

(26,008 posts)
6. Does the party actually need Mamdani
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:17 PM
4 hrs ago

in say, Georgia, or other swing states, though? I don't believe in absolutes. He had a good night in NYC. I have nothing against him. But hailing him as the leader of all Dems as we head into Nov. does not seem wise.

mr715

(4,841 posts)
8. He has never run in Georgia, but I suspect if he ever did he'd know how to win.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:23 PM
4 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:19 PM - Edit history (1)

He is energetic and engaging. He doesn't seem corrupt. He doesn't seem defeated.

You're correct he isn't (yet) a central power broker in the party, but I think it is fairly clear his star is ascendent - and it would by wise to learn from his successes.

Mamdani is a leader of new generation, progressive social media forward democrats. Just a leader. Not the leader.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,309 posts)
13. You're right, he would know how to win in Georgia
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:39 PM
3 hrs ago

And would probably adopt more moderate policies and message.

Scrivener7

(60,348 posts)
14. He has said he has no ambitions beyond being mayor. But we'll see how that goes.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:39 PM
3 hrs ago

I am shocked at the changes he is making for the better in a short time. I hope he changes his mind.

mr715

(4,841 posts)
15. If a politician ever says they aren't thinking about higher office...
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:44 PM
3 hrs ago

don't believe them.

That he makes it believable is his superpower.

His options, however, are somewhat limited. He can't be President, but I'd take him as a Senator.

He is remarkable in that he set an agenda and rapidly delivered on it. Additionally, behind his charisma, he has demonstrated a savviness / shrewdness in his movements within the party.

As you know, NY Mayors always run for higher office. They don't often win. Ever.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,309 posts)
21. How many NYC Mayors
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:51 PM
3 hrs ago

have gone on to higher office?

Can't think of one in the last 50 years. But Mamdani could be the exception.

mr715

(4,841 posts)
23. Dinkens didn't
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:55 PM
3 hrs ago

But Bloomberg did and Giuliani did and De Blasio did... I don't think Koch did, but that was for a very specific reason.

mr715

(4,841 posts)
29. De Blasio won my heart.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:01 PM
3 hrs ago

Otherwise no one. NY mayors have big ambitions and little evidence of electability.

BeyondGeography

(41,234 posts)
28. They both ran for higher office but it didn't work out
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:00 PM
3 hrs ago

Jeffries thought about running for mayor when he was starting out in public life. When he was told that a NYC Mayor had never gone on to a higher elected office he quickly lost interest.

LAS14

(15,581 posts)
18. Well, he can't run for president, so how much more important...
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:47 PM
3 hrs ago

... is senator or governor?

mr715

(4,841 posts)
24. Bishop v. Knight
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:58 PM
3 hrs ago

Governor of NY is more powerful. There are only 50 governors, and NY is one of the more important states.

Quiet Em

(3,227 posts)
66. I am not saying that at all.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:33 PM
1 hr ago

I have tremendous respect for Rep. Goldman and I have a lot of respect for Lander as well.

I'm saying that Mamdani endorsed candidates that he, Mamdani, found helpful for his ambitions and goals for NYC.

fujiyamasan

(2,169 posts)
42. He wasn't born in the US
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:35 PM
2 hrs ago

So he unless it’s an unelected cabinet position, the Senate is as far as he can go.

wnylib

(26,808 posts)
16. Here in red western NY, we chose a far left candidate for the House.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:46 PM
3 hrs ago

I heard him speak at a local No Kings rally last fall and voted for him in yesterday's primary, even though I am usually a left of center Dem but not so far left. I will volunteer for his campaign in the general, too, because I want to unseat the current MAGA House Rep in our district.

He won in a landslide.

JBTaurus83

(1,848 posts)
7. Is Jeffries smoking something?
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:18 PM
4 hrs ago

His brand isn’t selling. If he hasn’t figured it out by now, he will be the next one out the door.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,309 posts)
9. Jeffries was unopposed in his primary yesterday
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:26 PM
4 hrs ago

Do you think a republican will defeat him in November?

mr715

(4,841 posts)
22. No one needs to be making drama.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:53 PM
3 hrs ago

Jeffries is going to have new members of his caucus. He is very likely to be elected Speaker in a few months. He has more to gain by making nice mouth noises to the new meat.

My understanding is that my former district was embroiled in some particularly nasty racial shit involving the island of Hispanola. That sort of nastiness has no place in our caucus.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,309 posts)
25. But it still doesn't make him
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:58 PM
3 hrs ago

"the next one out the door" as was claimed in the post I responded to.

Bob_in_VA

(149 posts)
40. If I might suggest
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:32 PM
2 hrs ago

The phrase "out the door" can mean two different things. One, Jeffreys loses hi seat in the House. Probably not unless something catastrophic happens in his District and he's to blame. Two, he loses his position in the leadership; the Dems take the House but someone else is elected Speaker. So the first option, probably not but the second option is up in the air since it depends, in part, on how many Progressive/far left Democratic and/or Independent candidates win their respective races. Based on my inbox, there's at least 12 to 20 such candidates running, many of whom have at least a reasonably good chance of winning their election, particularly in the current climate where what had been safe Republican seats are no longer safe. I know this because they are all asking me to fund their races.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,309 posts)
44. Actually the comment was
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:39 PM
2 hrs ago

"next one out the door". If Jeffries is the next one, who is the last one?

mr715

(4,841 posts)
10. He needs Mamdani's candidates to be in his caucus!
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:26 PM
4 hrs ago

Now, they're going to win... but still. He's the Democratic leader. He needs their votes!

mr715

(4,841 posts)
37. Don't want to see the Kevin McCarthy humiliation on our side?
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:21 PM
3 hrs ago

I certainly do not.

However I did enjoy watching it happen to Kevin McCarthy again... and again... and again... and again... and again...

He kept that stupid plastered smile on his face while his party cut off his testicles again... and again... again...

Quiet Em

(3,227 posts)
11. Here's the reality
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:28 PM
4 hrs ago

These are both incredible Democratic men with completely different jobs.

Mamdani endorsed three candidates in a city that he runs as Mayor because he believes they had a better message and may offer better results for the people of his city.

Jeffries needs to keep a very large and diverse coalition of House Democrats from across all spectrums and geographies united as an equal front. On top of that he is a New York State Representative who works with other NYS Democrats.

I know there are members of the Congressional Hispanic caucus who may be upset, and other NYS Democratic leaders who rely on established relationships with other Democrats who may be upset, but the goal for both of these men is to bring them together. A goal I believe they both share and will manage.

What is not reality is the attempt to pin these two as being at war with each other.




Cha

(321,525 posts)
49. Mahalo, Em.. ☮️💙🌻🕯️🕊️
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:00 PM
2 hrs ago

I bet there are Dems in Congress who had strong relationships with those who lost in NYC.

Like Rep Dan Goldman, who is a brilliant contributor to our democracy.

I know there are members of the Congressional Hispanic caucus who may be upset, and other NYS Democratic leaders who rely on established relationships with other Democrats who may be upset

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,953 posts)
20. I didn't hear that
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 06:49 PM
3 hrs ago
"The goal is to win as many seats currently held by Republicans as possible, and take back control of the House of Representatives."

The fiend!!!!

Question: "What's your relationship with Mamdani as it stands right now?"

"Very good one, we speak regularly."

Hey, let's divide Dems for the midterms. Always a winning strategy!

Cha

(321,525 posts)
57. Lol at "..the fiend!!!!" Seems like some
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:10 PM
2 hrs ago

didn't read the whole thing before they piled on Leader Jeffries.

Hey, that's what I keep saying...

"The goal is to win as many seats currently held by Republicans as possible, and take back control of the House of Representatives."

The fiend!!!!

Question: "What's your relationship with Mamdani as it stands right now?"

Mahalo, MorbidButterflyTat☮️💙🌻🕯️🕊️

Lovie777

(24,458 posts)
34. Oh yes Jeffries does................
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:14 PM
3 hrs ago

corporate media's goal is to pit Democrats against each other, something they never did when the fucked up tea party fraction came into focus.

We will stick together because the big tent favors diversity, D.E.I and Woke, compassion, equal rights, affordable economy, well paying jobs with benefits and retirement, affordable health care, et al.

LymphocyteLover

(10,397 posts)
41. His job is to count votes & keep the caucus together, not necessarily be a great progressive spokesperson for the party
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:34 PM
2 hrs ago

Pelosi apparently thought he had the skills for that

Sympthsical

(11,269 posts)
43. Wow. HuffPo certainly, uh, chose some pictures for that post
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:38 PM
2 hrs ago

It's like some sort of children's cartoon, Goblin v. Gopher.

What the hell, HuffPo.

It's like the ferrets don't even exist to you.

Buddyzbuddy

(3,034 posts)
50. You had a choice Congressman.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:00 PM
2 hrs ago

You've chosen wrong. Progressives have always been here choosing between what we want and what we can get. This is the result. You can move with us or eventually you might not have a choice. Your predecessor chose you with the support of the old guard. Well, it's time for a changing of the guard. It can be painful and disruptive or you can choose to fight this fight with us.
But, know that there is change coming.

The minorities and youth of American can no longer be taken for granted.

Nanjeanne

(6,819 posts)
52. Jeez just say Congratulations to the winners and that you welcome them into the House and are eager to work together.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:01 PM
2 hrs ago

It’s not hard Hakeem.

LilElf70

(1,708 posts)
54. It appears to be
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:06 PM
2 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2026, 09:37 PM - Edit history (1)

no more ignorant, corrupt, get rich politicians are acceptable. From either side. People are totally fed up. It now appears to finally be about "We the people", which just may start a completely different concept to run a country. The people come FIRST. The younger generation has seen some of the most tumultuous years of this country. I personally can't believe how bad we have allowed it to get. They're fed up and their future is in their hands. They know this.

I cannot deny something is happening. All these wins, just don't happen. More are coming, believe me. People are fed up on both sides. It's truly time for change. A country that EVERYONE can enjoy. I actually welcome Mandami, and his likes. The next 2 years could be the most exciting years this country has ever had.

I wish us all good luck on the outcome in November. It's time to kick some ass.

choie

(7,108 posts)
58. The arrogance.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:13 PM
2 hrs ago

Why should Mamdani apologize for being authentic and choosing to endorse three progressive candidates (who, by the way, won)? Jeffries should spend his time trying to stop trump and his administration instead of fostering a battle with Mamdani and other lefties.

Fil1957

(969 posts)
65. If would be nice if for just once, the centrist Democrats would wake up, smell the coffee, read the room, etc.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 08:23 PM
2 hrs ago

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,953 posts)
70. The lack of critical thinking really bothers me
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 09:02 PM
1 hr ago

Just read the click bait and it's off with his head! WTF.

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