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Superficial I know, but still..... (Original Post) FrenchieCat Jan 2012 OP
She is so gorgeous! n/t laruemtt Jan 2012 #1
No "but" about it zipplewrath Jan 2012 #2
Looks like her to me...... FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #4
But not as she does in press photos. zipplewrath Jan 2012 #5
I don't get your point.... FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #7
I'm not sure how much more clear zipplewrath Jan 2012 #13
Oh....... FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #15
She angry black woman. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #25
Oh man, she's gorgeous, & you know what? dmr Jan 2012 #30
She looks "lighter" zipplewrath Jan 2012 #38
Are you suggesting that's not Michelle Obama on that magazine cover?...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #41
How did you get that? zipplewrath Jan 2012 #42
I don't understand the standard in which you used to judge her pic..... FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #43
Bad supposition zipplewrath Jan 2012 #45
The fact that you have to post so many times to FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #46
I was participating in the discussion zipplewrath Jan 2012 #52
From this... SidDithers Jan 2012 #44
wow zappaman Jan 2012 #48
No zipplewrath Jan 2012 #51
That picture is from a completely different angle and was taken in '08. renie408 Jan 2012 #32
Yup zipplewrath Jan 2012 #37
Cause it's a fucking "cover photo"....that's why! doh! FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #49
Yup zipplewrath Jan 2012 #50
I like her SO much! When I was deciding between Obama and Hillary, it was seeing Michelle saying gateley Jan 2012 #3
Oops. Composition error. progressoid Jan 2012 #6
Ok.... FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #10
Same thing zipplewrath Jan 2012 #16
Much better ... progressoid Jan 2012 #17
I don't see anything Superficial about the topics she discusses in the issue MagickMuffin Jan 2012 #8
I'm smiling at your post..... FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #23
It is NOT superficial JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #9
I think the superficial part ... dawg Jan 2012 #14
Nice. Raffi Ella Jan 2012 #11
Stunning! Little Star Jan 2012 #12
Kick politicasista Jan 2012 #18
She's beautiful. LiberalAndProud Jan 2012 #19
Big ole kick... one_voice Jan 2012 #20
Lovely. whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #21
She is a lovely, smart, and sophisticated woman. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #22
most beautiful, caring and intelligent First Lady ever. Whisp Jan 2012 #24
Love her, that's it. a kennedy Jan 2012 #26
Don't blame you one bit! FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #27
That amazing blue dress! kaitcat Jan 2012 #28
She's as photogenic as lady diana. applegrove Jan 2012 #29
Thanks Frenchie. Scurrilous Jan 2012 #31
Not superficial at all. mmonk Jan 2012 #33
I am 100% an Obamabot. Michelle Obamabot that is. donheld Jan 2012 #34
superficiality is underrated Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #35
I really like Michelle. bigwillq Jan 2012 #36
Beautiful photo, but I like her message even better. PA Democrat Jan 2012 #39
I've never cared for Michelle... HipChick Jan 2012 #40
I've always liked her. TBF Jan 2012 #47

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
4. Looks like her to me......
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:39 PM
Jan 2012

Are what do you mean? She should look exactly like she does on a magazine cover
at all times?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
13. I'm not sure how much more clear
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:00 PM
Jan 2012

The magazine cover barely looks like the other "noncover" photos. It looks more like a "look alike" or some younger sister or something. Facial proportions are off. Skin looks different. She looks a different weight.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
15. Oh.......
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jan 2012

Yeah...cause other people look exactly the same on magazine covers as they
do in their candid photos......

It looks just like her to me.....
and some 48 year old women wish they could look as good,
skin and all.....but whatever!












Well Have a nice day anyways!

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
25. She angry black woman.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:16 PM
Jan 2012

Angry. Black. Woman.
They even gots a book about how angry that black woman is.
Ooooohhh, angry black woman.

When someone asks who you are going to vote for . . .
say "Obama" . . like this little feller --->

dmr

(28,347 posts)
30. Oh man, she's gorgeous, & you know what?
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:10 AM
Jan 2012

That gorgeous hunk she's married to - I hope he sings to her.

He can sing to me any day

I've been trying to download him all day for my ringtone, but I can't get it to work.
http://www.barackobama.com/ringtone/
:swoon:

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
38. She looks "lighter"
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:14 AM
Jan 2012

Color wise yes, but also a bit thinner. He jaw looks a tad "thinner" than in other photos. I suspect its the camera lens they used. Quite honestly, I like her "candid" look better. Never was a fan of the "over made up" look, nor the china doll schtick.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
42. How did you get that?
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:01 AM
Jan 2012

Really, I'm curious how you get such a conclusion from anything that I wrote? Do you not understand the concept of similie or metaphor?

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
43. I don't understand the standard in which you used to judge her pic.....
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:25 AM
Jan 2012

Guess that you've decided that a woman of her age, and who is neither
a professional model or an actress made to look younger via surgery and injection
is supposed to somehow look like the cover of a magazine at all times, including
when taking candid photos.

Even young women who are models and acting celebrities do not walk around looking
like their magazine covers.

Just the mere fact that you would have commented in that way, in this thread, gives us
a better view as to the type of individual that you are, in particular when it comes to this woman.

I thank you for that.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
45. Bad supposition
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:47 PM
Jan 2012

Try again.

The original post mentioned the superficiality. I was agreeing with that term. There is something fundamentally superficial about photographing someone to look like they don't look. Even more so to make them temporarily appear to be some approximation of a false "ideal".

She's a good looking woman in her own right. It seems horribly supeficial to make her appear "differently" merely to conform to some ideal of what she "should" look like.

As far as your suppositions. The reason that scientists do double blind studies is because it is very easy to find what you're looking for, even when it's not there.

Your suppositions, and your supposed "better views" give us more insight into you, and what you are looking for, than anything about me.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
46. The fact that you have to post so many times to
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:08 PM
Jan 2012

justify your critique of a photo.....
and beyond that, the fact that you are
a consistent harsh critic of The Obama administration
in general says to me, that there really are times when
if you don't have anything good to say,
then saying nothing is a great option, if for no other reason,
to demonstrate goodwill, and a lack of pettiness...

Some people learned that from their parents...
it's called home trainin'- http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=home%20trainin%27

.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
52. I was participating in the discussion
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:42 PM
Jan 2012

It is a discussion forum after all. And my original comment was based upon the OP's comment about the superficiality. Basically I was agreeing. It is superficial. It's almost the poster child for superficial. Take a perfectly good looking woman and make her look like something she isn't. The impled reason being that what she is isn't some how "good enough".

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
44. From this...
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:42 AM
Jan 2012

Last edited Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:28 PM - Edit history (1)

It looks more like a "look alike" or some younger sister or something. Facial proportions are off. Skin looks different. She looks a different weight.


Guess I didn't read your meaning correctly.

Sid

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
48. wow
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:12 PM
Jan 2012

so now the Obama haters are actually picking on pictures of the first lady?
man, and I thought Bush hatred was bad!

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
51. No
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:38 PM
Jan 2012

They were commenting upon the original posters "superficial" observation.

But keep looking for trouble where it doesn't exist, I'm sure you can find it if you try hard enough.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
32. That picture is from a completely different angle and was taken in '08.
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:21 AM
Jan 2012

I know I have gained and lost 20 pounds like four times in the last four years. I guess Mrs. Obama could have, too. Plus, I think they have lighting, etc, in magazine cover photo shoots that are not readily available for candid shots. Hence, the 'candidness'.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
37. Yup
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:12 AM
Jan 2012

And I suspect they used a wide angle lens too, it can change the apparent proportions of things in depth rather quickly. There's a definite "cover photo" aspect to the whole thing.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
49. Cause it's a fucking "cover photo"....that's why! doh!
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jan 2012

But keep digging, as a picture of you is coming that much more in focus
to some of us the more you post in this thread.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
3. I like her SO much! When I was deciding between Obama and Hillary, it was seeing Michelle saying
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:39 PM
Jan 2012

earnestly and sincerely, "he's a GOOD man" that made me look at him more closely.

We are so lucky to have her as FLOTUS. And Obama is lucky to have her as his partner!

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
16. Same thing
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jan 2012

I suspect, a bit like the Clinton cover photo (and a similar Coulter cover), that a very wide angle lens was being used, which changes proportions between very small differences in depth.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
17. Much better ...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:06 PM
Jan 2012

even though the wide angle lens makes her arms look a little big

And thank God they didn't go overboard with PhotoShop. She's too beautiful for that.



(disclaimer: I'm in the photog business)

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
8. I don't see anything Superficial about the topics she discusses in the issue
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:56 PM
Jan 2012

Perhaps some people here will think that, but I think discussing such topics as self-doubt, early struggles, and wanting to help build self confidence in young girls. I hold her in the highest Light for wanting to be a role model, even though I'm usually not someone who has role models in my own life.



JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
9. It is NOT superficial
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:56 PM
Jan 2012

It simply is not superficial. What's wrong with have a beautiful black woman on the cover of a magazine who happens to hold ADVANCED degrees, is very accomplished and as an aside? Is married to the President of the United States of America? I'd rather see her - than Rihanna on the cover of a magazine. But that's me.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
14. I think the superficial part ...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jan 2012

is the fact that she's just so darn pretty!

But I have always been able to appreciate a woman for her mind *and* her looks.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
19. She's beautiful.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:07 PM
Jan 2012

Beyond that, I very much want to read the article. Overcoming self doubt is a *big* issue in loved ones' lives at this moment in time.

donheld

(21,311 posts)
34. I am 100% an Obamabot. Michelle Obamabot that is.
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:26 AM
Jan 2012

She's the best first lady I've ever experienced. Every single time I see anything about her she shines inside and out.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
36. I really like Michelle.
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:36 AM
Jan 2012

I think she's done wonderful things as First Lady. I think she's very good in the role. From everything I know, I believe she is a very good wife and mother and, at the end of the day, that's what matters most.
And she's kind of sexy too.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
40. I've never cared for Michelle...
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:20 AM
Jan 2012

to be honest - but she has really grown on me. I have been won over by her poise,and grace. She looks flawless - always. We are very blessed to have this gorgeous family in the White House, and to be able to witness in our lifetime.
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