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4bonhoffer

(278 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 08:48 AM 19 hrs ago

He wasn't talking to any of us

He was talking to his white domestic terrorists. The ones that know that he will pardon them for ANY crimes they commit.
He was talking to election deniers , some of whom are in positions of authority in state offices.
He was talking to fringe judges.
He is letting everyone know that just as he put out a call on Jan. 6 , he will be putting out a call for the midterms in Nov.
He knows that it doesn’t have to be national wide. Just enough disruption and violence in a number of locations will suffice.
He was talking to the generals he didn’t fire. Get ready to obey unlawful orders.
He is letting everyone know that the midterms in Nov. will make Jan. 6 . Look like a walk in the park.

He is counting on MSM to act like this is hyperbolic, and to continue to treat the republican party as normal.
He is counting on people being upset about his lies, knowing that while everyone is talking about his lies, no one will be planning for his violence.

Best idea I’ve heard to overcome this is still, show up in overwhelming numbers to vote.



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He wasn't talking to any of us (Original Post) 4bonhoffer 19 hrs ago OP
remember this about j6- mopinko 19 hrs ago #1
But most of all, he was talking to Republicans in Congress. By pressurizing constituents, Tim S 19 hrs ago #2
How many Republicans in Congress TNNurse 17 hrs ago #7
I agree about the thugs. But I believe he has blackmail material on virtually everyone thanks to... Tim S 16 hrs ago #8
He is an incompetent moron Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #3
He is hoping for violence. That's what he's always wanted. He gets off on it. hamsterjill 17 hrs ago #4
Actually Katcat 5 hrs ago #15
Spot on! Grumpy Old Guy 17 hrs ago #5
Thank you! Hieronymus Phact 17 hrs ago #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz 16 hrs ago #9
"He is counting on MSM to act like this is hyperbolic, and to continue to treat the republican party as normal." relogic 13 hrs ago #10
Where possible... lame54 13 hrs ago #11
You are absolutely right Racygrandma 8 hrs ago #12
Talking in the toilet... purr-rat beauty 7 hrs ago #13
If current trends hold true then Prairie_Seagull 7 hrs ago #14

mopinko

(74,366 posts)
1. remember this about j6-
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:01 AM
19 hrs ago

it wasnt ‘spontaneous’. it wasnt some outpouring of misplaced civic engagement.
it was organized. it was instigated. it was FUNDED. and for the most part, it was done in broad daylight.

imho, there was a major failure of the j6 committee to follow the money. i guess it was a bridge too far to trace the payment for the buses back to ginny thomas.

blue state law enforcement had best b watching the info channels where these plans get hatched and b ready. if steve bannon starts organizing rallies, load the rifles.

Tim S

(407 posts)
2. But most of all, he was talking to Republicans in Congress. By pressurizing constituents,
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:15 AM
19 hrs ago

Trump hopes those “enraged citizens” demand that their legislators pass the (doomed) SAVE voting bill.

TNNurse

(7,571 posts)
7. How many Republicans in Congress
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:11 AM
17 hrs ago

are really with him or are they afraid of the repercussions for going against him? I am not just talking about election issues, I mean violence, fraudulent charges against the congress person and/or their family. He has thugs that do his bidding.

Tim S

(407 posts)
8. I agree about the thugs. But I believe he has blackmail material on virtually everyone thanks to...
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:38 AM
16 hrs ago

The Russians and NSA. If you annoy him, he just sees what leverage he has on all your intercepted “private” communications and has a quiet word with you.

We knew back in George W’s admin that the NSA had taps at the central Internet exchanges with on both coasts (Anyone remember Project Echelon? This has been going on for over two decades now. How is AI currently re-indexing all of this gathered material to better weaponize it?)

And to think that we used to joke about the USSR keeping tabs on its citizens.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,909 posts)
3. He is an incompetent moron
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:27 AM
19 hrs ago
He knows that it doesn’t have to be national wide. Just enough disruption and violence in a number of locations will suffice.


This is a myth disproven by actual election results over the past 18 months.

When 2024 Trump +20 districts are swinging 15-30 point towards Dems in place like FL, TX and GA, there can be no strategic targeting of any particular area with “just enough disruption and violence” to affect the outcome, at least not without affecting the outcome for Republican candidates too.

He was talking to the generals he didn’t fire. Get ready to obey unlawful orders.


Please quote the section of last night’s speech that indicates he will order troops to enter polling places, seize ballots or fire on civilians.

Every other serious, rational analysis of last night’s speech, even by sympathetic news outlets, did NOT come away with the impression that you did.

Instead, they reported, accurately, the lie-filled rantings of a demented octogenarian who knows that, despite gerrymandering and voter suppression, his party is going to lose big in the midterms, and who knows there is little else he can do about it except whine and complain.

Consider the possibility that your amygdala, like many others’, has been overstimulated in the Trump era, and a catastrophizing fear response to anything he says has become automatic.

More importantly, never forget this one absolute truth:

Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless

Trump continues to lose case after case in court related to his election demands. The states have refused to comply, without consequences, and all he can do is demand congress pass the SAVE act.

That’s it.

Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami.

hamsterjill

(18,132 posts)
4. He is hoping for violence. That's what he's always wanted. He gets off on it.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:39 AM
17 hrs ago

We know this about him from the information gleaned from past associates and what has been said about him with regard to Epstein. He likes to watch other people suffer. It makes him feel powerful. When he sees his minions actually fighting "for him", he probably has an erection. He's deviant.

He's an asshole, and wants to be a dictator.

In every thread like this, we ultimately get the same posters insisting that when it's time for him to leave, he's going to smile, shake hands and ride off into the sunset. We know from January 6th NOT to assume this.

YES, ABSA-FUCKINGLUTELY, the best idea is to show up in overwhelming numbers and vote.

But being prepared for something like January 6th is not foolish. It occurred. We witnessed it. It was real.

It happened, and it can happen again. No one knows the future and whether it will actually happen or not. But not preparing for it would be NOT having learned our lesson last time, and being over confident in anything right now, is just plain stupid.

The Blue Tsunami is not a given. We aren't there yet. There was great confidence that Hillary was going to be a given. Guess what? She wasn't. There was great hope that Kamala was going to win. Guess what? She didn't.

I think it is prudent and rational to talk about this. But some on DU can't stand the idea that we even bring it up. That is naivete at its finest in my opinion. They are caught up in polling and what they THINK is going to happen. Again, overconfidence is not something we need.

You can't point to specific words that Trump says in a speech. He speaks in code to his followers. He knows how to push THEIR buttons and the hot points to rile them up. So someone asking for specific points, just doesn't get the concept.

Trump is an idiot in many ways, but riling up his followers and knowing how to do that and get them to blindly try to save their king is something he knows full well how to do.


Katcat

(689 posts)
15. Actually
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 11:27 PM
5 hrs ago

Pretty sure that Trump won the last election with elons help. He said on numerous occasions that “Elon knows the voting machines very well

Hieronymus Phact

(803 posts)
6. Thank you!
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 10:53 AM
17 hrs ago

I've been saying this for years.
As we laugh and point and titter at the stupidity.
They are communicating, and they ARE NOT TALKING TO YOU.

Response to 4bonhoffer (Original post)

relogic

(480 posts)
10. "He is counting on MSM to act like this is hyperbolic, and to continue to treat the republican party as normal."
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:40 PM
13 hrs ago

That was theirs and millions of peoples’ mistake eleven years ago. The normalization of comfy, warm, soothing waves of mousy sounds spewing forth from a bombastic clown are still with us.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,945 posts)
14. If current trends hold true then
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:01 PM
7 hrs ago

It's popularity will continue to wane. If this becomes more like a given then what will his most likely response be. This is perhaps the most petrifying and real patriotic moment since what... Kent State.

Time for courage will soon be upon us.

We got this.

IMO

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