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31j20b3

(351 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 04:18 PM Yesterday

T-level expectations of Hegseth misread the basic science of testosterone

https://www.ms.now/opinion/hegseth-pentagon-testosterone-testing-science

There is no one ‘right’ level of testosterone
Testosterone levels vary widely. Within the normal range, that variation does not necessarily translate into meaningful differences in energy, muscle mass or facial hair. Testosterone is just one part of a much more complex hormonal system. How the body responds to it depends not only on the amount circulating in the bloodstream but also on factors such as androgen receptor sensitivity, levels of other hormones and individual genetics.
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T-level expectations of Hegseth misread the basic science of testosterone (Original Post) 31j20b3 Yesterday OP
Can't wait till someone tells him about estrogen levels in men Lifeafter70 Yesterday #1
Especially when a guy takes in more testosterone than the body requires. LiberalArkie 22 hrs ago #9
Yeah that extra T could become an E Lifeafter70 22 hrs ago #10
And it does... LiberalArkie 20 hrs ago #29
Yes its a balancing act Lifeafter70 20 hrs ago #30
All Hegseth knows about Testosteroni is "more". maxsolomon 23 hrs ago #2
"Testosteroni". (cue music) It's made with macaroni! orthoclad 20 hrs ago #31
Hegseth wants ICE-like thugs in the military-- viva la 23 hrs ago #3
I don;t know why the US would want an army of low IQ belligerent thugs like ICE 31j20b3 23 hrs ago #4
You're assuming these are intelligent rational people making those decisions. ... littlemissmartypants 23 hrs ago #5
Not really, i might be assuming I am an intelligent rational person and 31j20b3 21 hrs ago #24
They need men AND women with those qualities. Nt spooky3 21 hrs ago #23
and stone cold killers. My Lai. orthoclad 20 hrs ago #32
My LAI was a crime, even those in the event recognized that 31j20b3 19 hrs ago #33
Wrong. Calley never spent a day in jail orthoclad 19 hrs ago #34
As I recall it, Calley was found guilty the sentence wasn;t what people wanted 31j20b3 19 hrs ago #36
When you are simple minded, it is easy to come up with simple, but meanigless solutions. flashman13 22 hrs ago #6
This message was self-deleted by its author ashredux 22 hrs ago #7
What's he going to do odins folly 22 hrs ago #8
probably fondle them Skittles 22 hrs ago #17
like most conservatives, Pete confuses being a bully with being a man Skittles 22 hrs ago #11
Insecurity will do that to a motherfucker. Iggo 22 hrs ago #15
absolutely correct Skittles 22 hrs ago #18
He wants an all-male military. valleyrogue 22 hrs ago #12
Who's gonna tell him? Iggo 22 hrs ago #14
I'm totally un-surprised that he-man-woman-haters don't understand testosterone. Iggo 22 hrs ago #13
Misread? Mz Pip 22 hrs ago #16
I started having problems in my 60s. BidenRocks 22 hrs ago #19
Damn! BurnDoubt 22 hrs ago #20
90% of low testosterone issues come from poor personal health choices NickB79 22 hrs ago #21
Nugenix Total-T Commercial (Frank Thomas, Doug Flutie) (12/2022) Jacson6 22 hrs ago #22
What an idiot. enigmania 21 hrs ago #25
I do think he's inadequately educated, and substitutes popular stereotypes 31j20b3 21 hrs ago #26
Hegseth misread the basic science of shit California Kid 21 hrs ago #27
I was thinking he got his medical "knowledge" from the brainworm guy. retread 21 hrs ago #28
Does Hegseth beat up on women before or after taking it? Norrrm 19 hrs ago #35

Lifeafter70

(1,321 posts)
1. Can't wait till someone tells him about estrogen levels in men
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 04:30 PM
Yesterday

And if they are too low can cause irritability, mood swings and depression.

LiberalArkie

(20,018 posts)
9. Especially when a guy takes in more testosterone than the body requires.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:04 PM
22 hrs ago

My free T is 18 with my injections.

Lifeafter70

(1,321 posts)
30. Yes its a balancing act
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 08:15 PM
20 hrs ago

Something kegsbreath knows little about.
But he wants to play doctor with our troops

maxsolomon

(39,612 posts)
2. All Hegseth knows about Testosteroni is "more".
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 04:55 PM
23 hrs ago

I bet you 2/3 of the giant assholes in MFer's cabinet are using some form of T.

orthoclad

(5,484 posts)
31. "Testosteroni". (cue music) It's made with macaroni!
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 08:38 PM
20 hrs ago

The commercial potentials are great. C'mon you jingle-slingers!

viva la

(4,671 posts)
3. Hegseth wants ICE-like thugs in the military--
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 05:26 PM
23 hrs ago

rather than the highly trained, highly disciplined force we need for the future.
It's clear that he's taking extra "T" and loves that it makes him belligerent and abusive-- or rather, exaggerates those already extant qualities in him.

31j20b3

(351 posts)
4. I don;t know why the US would want an army of low IQ belligerent thugs like ICE
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 05:32 PM
23 hrs ago

Being stupid increases the likelihood of getting dead.

The military need men who can learn and adapt quickly.
The military needs men who can live in close quarters under stress

I don't know an army on earth that would want thugs and dummies for anything but cannon fodder

littlemissmartypants

(36,233 posts)
5. You're assuming these are intelligent rational people making those decisions. ...
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 05:46 PM
23 hrs ago

They're idiots being led by unqualified narcissistic bullies. Who probably couldn't understand the rules of engagement if they even bothered to read them.

Hogsbreath is just a poser, winging it.



Morale must be spectacular.

31j20b3

(351 posts)
24. Not really, i might be assuming I am an intelligent rational person and
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:07 PM
21 hrs ago

because of that I can't understand something irrational and stupid

But if I said that, it would be pretty outrageously self-serving.

31j20b3

(351 posts)
33. My LAI was a crime, even those in the event recognized that
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:02 PM
19 hrs ago

I have a hard time thinking soldiers want murderers on either side of them

Making the enemy incapable of fighting is the end game, becoming a monster isn't. The guys at My Lai had awful leadership that got frustrated, and they turned on civilians because bad leaders sad the civilians were disguised Viet Cong.

ALong the way to incapacitating your enemy, you've got to keep the enemy in front of you from wiping out the men on either side of you Because, it's THOSE guys who are going to save your ass when you get hit by bullets, mortar rounds, and all else

Assuming every civilian is an enemy reflects collapse of trust and discipline. Everything becomes a matter of NOT trusting they guys next to you. And that transition wrecks the squad, platoon, or company

TRUST that the guys next to you will respond when you are in need is the GLUE that hold together line units. It's the thing that makes medal of honor winners do the most dangerous things possible to care for the other guys in the unit

I don't think any soldier would trust a criminal. I saw guys accused, but not convicted of crimes meet their end wrapped in blankets and found crumpled at the bottom of stairwells... so called Blanket Parties.( Spring 1972 Ft Gordon, GA). That was also a crime and the guys suspected of it were arrested (I can't say how that turned out, because I graduated from my training and left before their trials,


orthoclad

(5,484 posts)
34. Wrong. Calley never spent a day in jail
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:04 PM
19 hrs ago

a helicopter crew had to train machine guns on the killers to make them stop.

The military WANTS killers.

31j20b3

(351 posts)
36. As I recall it, Calley was found guilty the sentence wasn;t what people wanted
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:10 PM
19 hrs ago

because it was a matter of "house arrest."



flashman13

(2,703 posts)
6. When you are simple minded, it is easy to come up with simple, but meanigless solutions.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 05:50 PM
22 hrs ago

Hogsbreath is a classic example.

Response to 31j20b3 (Original post)

Skittles

(174,115 posts)
11. like most conservatives, Pete confuses being a bully with being a man
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:10 PM
22 hrs ago

he's such a clueless fuck

Skittles

(174,115 posts)
18. absolutely correct
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:21 PM
22 hrs ago

REAL men do not rape or demean women, they stand WITH us

FUCK the mansosphere, bunch of insecure little fucking dipshits

valleyrogue

(2,868 posts)
12. He wants an all-male military.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:12 PM
22 hrs ago

He is openly hostile to women in it.

And then you have that idiot Jesse Watters make light of rape on national television. He should have been fired on the spot for that.

Iggo

(50,200 posts)
13. I'm totally un-surprised that he-man-woman-haters don't understand testosterone.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:13 PM
22 hrs ago

Not that I do. But I also don’t worship the stuff.

BidenRocks

(3,761 posts)
19. I started having problems in my 60s.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:30 PM
22 hrs ago

I was injecting a vial every 3 weeks.
Then I gave up alcohol.
Low T went away.
Pete isn't going to be happy.

BurnDoubt

(2,022 posts)
20. Damn!
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:36 PM
22 hrs ago

Fuckin’ Science!
Not the first time it’s spoiled a good story.
I have a feeling science will reveal just how much hormonal levels affect so much about how our bodies work.
My feeling is hormones don’t much respect gender boundaries laid-out in such detail in the Bible. Troubling?

NickB79

(20,431 posts)
21. 90% of low testosterone issues come from poor personal health choices
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:38 PM
22 hrs ago

Eat healthy, with decent protein intake while watching your saturated fats, along with sufficient fiber and carbs.

Alcohol consumption, known to lower testosterone so limit yourself.

Exercise, a solid mix of cardio for heart health and weight lifting for lean muscle mass generation.

These all loop back to body fat control. Obesity greatly reduces testosterone production.

Sleep, get at least 6 uninterrupted hours a night.

And mental health, depression affects testosterone levels.

Defaulting to TRT without addressing these issues is just a bandaid solution.

Jacson6

(2,375 posts)
22. Nugenix Total-T Commercial (Frank Thomas, Doug Flutie) (12/2022)
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:45 PM
22 hrs ago



I'm sure that the selling of this stuff will skyrocket in the military.

enigmania

(521 posts)
25. What an idiot.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:08 PM
21 hrs ago

I worked out religiously for decades and was more "manly" and anti misogynist than any of these affirmation seeking morons could imagine.

31j20b3

(351 posts)
26. I do think he's inadequately educated, and substitutes popular stereotypes
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:11 PM
21 hrs ago

for what should be outcomes of evidence based thinking

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