Shit may really hit the fan in the middle east

[SamuelTheThird]

Al Jazeera's live updates says Iran has hit desalinization plants and energy infrastructure in Kuwait. 2 out of their 8 water plants have been hit

Iran issued this warning

"We have begun to implemented a phased plan, which will end with the complete destruction of all regional energy and water-purification infrastructure, if the U.S. aggression against Iran does not immediately stop."


(lol gotta say, these perilous Iran updates barely get any replies, meanwhile something about mel gibson gets 70)

[Coventina]

1. And none of the Pentagon strategists saw this coming?

[3_Limes]

4. Of course they did!

Right before they were fired for saying so.

[ms liberty]

68. So much this that it is not even funny

Helen Keller could have seen this coming.

[AverageOldGuy]

29. It's that low testosterone

[Martin68]

41. I'm sure Pentagon strategists did, but have been overruled by the twin military geniuses Trump and Hegseth.

[UpInArms]

2. I truly hate that TFG has the power to destroy

the world as we know it.

[BlueKota]

3. Same

[sop]

11. Really, who knew a U.S. president could wield such absolute power? When did Trump suddenly become a King?

Doesn't the Constitution provide separation of powers? Don't we have checks and balances? WTF is going on?

[LuvLoogie]

17. White Supremacy, that's what's going on.

In the Congress, the Executive, and Judiciary.

And the electorate.

christo-fascist white supremacy
and greed.

[peppertree]

34. And above all, because it's what the Epstein class wants

They see the Rump Regime as their best - and possibly last - chance to finally undo democracy, and they're going all in and all out.

White supremacy has been playing a key role in all this too, of course: that of keeping the Jim Crows and Archie Bunkers on the billionaires' side.

"Awwchie! We might lose our home thanks to this Orange Pig - and you're still for 'im!?"

"Arr - will ya quit yer yapping, Edith! It's woeeth it, just to see them .... and .... and .... get theirs!"

[70sEraVet]

63. I approve of the phrase 'Epstein class'!

Hang it around their necks like the Albatross!

[czarjak]

40. Sorry, but...

Justice Roberts declared racism dead to him, so!

[LuvLoogie]

67. Oh, my bad.

[slightlv]

47. You're correct, IMO... but it's world-wide, not just here. That's one reason why it seems

so insurmountable, IMO. Almost makes you take pause at that old adage from Revelation that the Devil will be loosed for 7 years to wreck havoc on the world before it ends....

[LuvLoogie]

66. It's world wide due to the after effects of colonialism and the raid on natural resources.

There is a tipping point. Exterminate the indigenous once and for all or share. Paint your opposition as leftist terrorists. Build mass prisons and masked militia that has impunity and no humanitarian guardrails--or share.

These people have preyed upon and murdered men, women, and children--without batting an eye -- for centuries across the globe in the name of Blue-Eyed Jesus.

[Keepthesoulalive]

64. You forgot ignorance and stupidity

Which feeds the racist beast.

[LuvLoogie]

73. Most racists know better. Especially the elected ones. The ones with professional degrees. Lawyers, CEOs, Doctors,...

Case in point if you have Facebook. Video on Kevin Roberts.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19JnqT6PDt/

[popsdenver]

42. "King" is such a nicer word than:

TYRANT OR DICTATOR.......(don't you think)

AND you have to remember that it is the Republican Party, The Republican Senators, the Republican House, The Republican U.S. Supreme Court that are 100% behind Trump. If it wasn't for them, Trump wouldn't have made it his first day, of his first term.

Throw in the Massive Republican Main Stream Media and FOX, as well as the White Supremacists, the Christian Nationalists, and the 2025 group..................

Also, they have the ICE GESTAPO, the BORDER PATROL GESTAPO, AND THE U.S. MILITARY........at their command......

[yardwork]

43. Voters ignored Kamala Harris's warnings.

She warned us that we'd get Trump with no guard rails. He has full control of Congress. He has control of the Supreme Court, which had given him total control of all federal agencies.

[Mysterian]

57. It's NOT just the U.S. president

It's the entire cowardly, fascist, traitorous republican party.

[Wuddles440]

36. Not only has the power, but...

along with his zombie cabal of thugs is actively and aggressively exploiting this power to do so in record time.

[no_hypocrisy]

5. Fresh water that has been processed is more valuable than oil in the Mid-East.

[Walleye]

8. Yes, that is beyond the comprehension of our orange toddler in charge

Water is worth more than oil. We should be using alternative energy sources.

[Prairie_Seagull]

55. Further, it's a war crime.

https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2026/03/30/trump-iran-war-crime-water-desalination/

[Walleye]

56. Yes, the man is a criminal at heart. And he loves killing people. It's disgusting as hell.

[Walleye]

6. Amazing they are doing this after their armed forces have all been "obliterated"

[cachukis]

7. I suspect most people do not understand the

reliance on desal in the ME. The entire economy will evaporate without water. All of those business deals will go elsewhere. Dubai is already experiencing migration away.
This could portend serious consequences

[hlthe2b]

9. I'd bet most are terrified at what is coming and hoping upon hope someone/something stops him..

Lack of interest? I'd hardly doubt that...

[flvegan]

10. AP link to article

https://apnews.com/article/iran-strikes-kuwait-gulf-bahrain-desalination-25e6d5c8d8a027897b3fb80fad57b7d2

[Norrrm]

12. Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate pr

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221058284

Trumps PREVIOUS statements
When Mr. Trump ran for president in 2024, he boasted of starting “no new wars,” and asserted that if Kamala Harris won, “she would get us into a World War III guaranteed,” and send the “sons and daughters” of Americans “to go fight for a war in a country that you’ve never heard of.”

Mr. Trump, 2012: “Now that Obama’s poll numbers are in tailspin — watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran. He is desperate.”

Mr. Trump, 2013: “Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly — not skilled!”

Mr. Trump, 2016: “We’re going to stop the reckless and costly policy of regime change.”

Mr. Trump, election night 2024: “I’m not going to start wars. I’m going to stop wars.”

>>>>>>>>> (more)

[ColoringFool]

79. You REALLY NEED Quotation Marks In Your Post Title.

[Buckeyeblue]

13. So the US kicks Iran and Iran kicks Kuwait?

The Iranian strategy is to destroy fellow Middle Eastern energy and water infrastructure? I'm not sure I understand that. It's like they are holding other countries as hostages. Which, I guess, is something we should expect from Iranians.

I'm against this war as much as anyone. But Iranian leaders are as evil as Trump. Maybe a little more so.

[moonscape]

16. They're fighting back in the

way they can, to get US allies to put pressure on T.

[JBTaurus83]

21. They are doing what is available to them

Just like we would. War isn’t a dance party. They will force these countries to give up US bases, thereby diminishing our power in that region.

[Dr. T]

28. For the Iranians, it's an existential fight.

Nothing is off the table for them.

[moniss]

38. Right you are and the ignorance of the West

in understanding conflicts with and in this region keeps us making the same mistakes over and over. A culture like the West, that operates from the view of death from conflict being a bad thing, getting into a war with cultures that view death from conflict as martyrdom fail to understand that one side will be more culturally motivated to end the dying than the other.

It is this attitude that prevails in the West of looking at others and situations on the basis of how we would react rather than the reality of how they will react. Like thinking everybody should "assimilate" and become "Westernized". The great arrogance of the West in believing everybody wants to or should be like them. When others don't see it the way the West wants it they get treated to spies, destabilization, overthrow and violence.

[Dr. T]

50. Obama and Biden understood all of that.

The Shrubs? Not so much. And Dimwitted Donnie? He is in the category of those who do not learn from history and are doomed to repeat it.

[ColoringFool]

80. They can stay out of Western democracies, then.

[moniss]

33. These conflicts between

countries in the Middle East are nothing new and stretch back over the centuries and have been about power, religion and control. The West conduct over more than a century, mainly the UK and US, has always played factions against each other and the ones they hate and kill today are the ones they beg for help tomorrow. The problem is that for over 100 years Western oil greed/control is always at the heart of Western policy and actions. The governments of the West truly don't give a damn about the daily life or survival of people in this region except in a larger perspective of that oil greed.

The people in those countries also know this is the way of the West and they have plenty of history and examples of lies from the West and reasons not to trust or believe anything the US/UK etc. say or put in writing. They know from experience about agreements broken before the ink is dry.

There are tons of various historical factions that jockey for power and control in areas all over the region. For example the area of Balochistan is hugely important but notice that it almost never gets discussed in Western media. However the West arms this faction and that against this one or that and then when the West wants to go a different direction they turn on the ones they called "friends". That kind of conduct, along with religious bigotry towards Islam and the various "flavors" like Shia and Sunni, contributes to the view that the West can never be a friend, should never be trusted and should only be viewed as something to be used.

[Bluestocking]

35. When the US attacked Iraq

over 20 years ago, Iraq responded by attacking Israel even though Israel had nothing to do with it.

[yardwork]

44. The middle east is a lot more complicated than most Americans know.

And these days I'm hesitant to call another nation evil when we've got Trump and... all this going on.

[Diamond_Dog]

62. Our national leaders should be studying the history and politics in the ME if they don't know it.

Unfortunately we have a fox nooze talking head pretend tough guy and an ignorant narcissist in charge who do not understand negotiation strategy, nor the complexity of the history, religion, political history or geography of the area. They think bullying is the only strategy needed. No wonder they have created a dangerous mess.

[Shipwack]

46. They're showing that the US is weak.

Being allies with the US is no guarantee of safety. It can’t protect you nor will avenge you. The US is now a paper tiger, at least now under Trump.

[David__77]

75. Those countries host US bases.

[malaise]

14. Maybe because you never identify the aggressors

The US and Israel violated all international law and attacked Iran.

[SamuelTheThird]

19. I mean youre correct

I think at this point everyone HERE knows the US and Israel brought this current war about though?

[QueerDuck]

15. What do you want me to say? How should I reply?

What difference would it make? I'm exhausted. Doom and gloom nonstop. Nothing new. We're all fucked.

Now what?

[EX500rider]

18. They may find that is a bad idea if they attack back, Iran has water issues too, destroy their major dams, no water

Surface water—primarily fed by snowmelt from the Alborz and Zagros mountain ranges—is captured in large reservoirs like the Lar, Latyan, and Karaj dams. This surface runoff is essential for major urban centers such as Tehran and industrial regions in the southwest.

[JBTaurus83]

22. If dump pushes them into a corner

They may decide it’s best to take everyone else to hell with them.

[Tom Rinaldo]

20. Something always seems to stop "the worst" from ever happening... Until the time it doesn't.

Most people don't really grasp what a real powder keg we all are sitting on. They believe the worst case is that gas prices might go up 50 to 75 cents a gallon for a few months, and think that even that is unlikely.

Iran is run by zealots and hard core militants who have already accepted the likelihood that they face possible death themselves, and have nothing further to fear. Adverse domestic public opinion? That's Trump's problem to face, Iran's leaders have already mowed down tens of thousands of Iranian protesters in order to maintain power. They have the guns and have shown a willingness to use them.

Now Iran realizes they can throttle the world's oil supply using a fleet of inexpensive drones, and that all of their enemies will deplete their air defense capacity long before Iran runs out of drones. Iran will not give up their leverage now without a land invasion which Trump is loath to launch before the mid terms. And the world will use up it's oil reserves long before that. The Gulf states will be set back by at least generation if a no holds bar wars breaks out there. Iran was set back by a generation a generation ago, they have the least to lose now. It the energy infrastructure throughout the region is attacked there will be no bouncing back before a global depression sets in.

And that's just looking at all this through an economic lens. The human suffering will be immense, and not limited to Iran.

[Kid Berwyn]

23. I hear ya.

Anyone Against War?

https://democraticunderground.com/100221033148

Lots of lives lost because of lies by greedhead traitors.

[malaise]

25. Nailed it

as always

[ToxMarz]

24. I suppose those Middle East nations that cozied up to Trump (and Kushner) thinking they were gonna play them

never got the memo.

Everything Trump touches, dies.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

26. Iran has a ton of targets to hit

trump is ignoring our allies and has been hitting Iran's infrastructure and so Iran is now hitting our allies infrastructure

[Dave says]

27. In my 24 years here, daily, I've never seen ...

… a long thread about Mel Gibson.

[SamuelTheThird]

31. right here now

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21384067

Im not saying people shouldnt do this, but that the Iran thing is getting dire and could tip over the edge into the abyss for the world

[yardwork]

45. And I'd prefer to watch cat videos.

I don't think it really means anything.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

58. There have been long threads about door buzzards, Olive Garden, cornflake-encrusted chicken, ...

... but yeah, not so much about Mel Gibson.

[JoseBalow]

30. Iran should target Mel Gibson

[SamuelTheThird]

32. Potentially Huge further attack on kuwait

Hormuz Letter is sometimes wrong though (apparently confirmed ,we'll see)

[ImNotGod]

37. Just watch the shipping guy's latest vid and Ukraine is stepping up attacks on all ships in the Black Sea

hitting every ship, even from other countries that is connected to russia shutting down shipping in that region. Even tug boats and they hit around 140 ships as of yesterday. Their goal is the fear factor, keep other countries from shipping out of fear which is what the US and Iran has done. The instability of both regions will very soon hit the boiling point. Ukraine is the only country who is doing it for a good reason though.

[Martin68]

39. Iran is employing excellent strategy to capitalize on their asymmetrical warfare advantages in the region.

Trump is still fighting a 20th century war.

[SamuelTheThird]

48. Yeah, I really have to wonder about the gulf states

There were reports at least some of them wanted the US to attack Iran. Pretty short-sighted. I think the lack of this kind of response to previous attacks on Iran made them figure Iran wouldn't truly pull the trigger

[JBTaurus83]

49. They will destroy the economies

Of all Dump’s buddies over there. As always, Dump is a terrible investment.

[0rganism]

51. Seems like shit's been hitting fans there for some time. Like you can't turn around in a bathroom without bumping a fan

Really way too much shit has hit. At this point, it's mostly a matter of flavor and consistency.

[Figarosmom]

52. Yep there is going to be kings and shahs more maniacally

Dangerous than trump on his back. His baddies .

[RockRaven]

53. Every single person you know who voted for Republicans (any, not just The Dotard), and

every single person you know who didn't bother to vote at all is responsible for what is happening and what is to come. How depressing a thought.

[calimary]

54. This. THIS, dammit!!!

[City Lights]

59. Iran has Pedo by the balls.

Wonder what his next move will be.

[SamuelTheThird]

60. more extensive strikes

TACO is off the table with the us troops killed in jordan

Could spiral completely out of control with consequences people dont want to think about

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

61. Iran leadership is probably happy to have an excuse to hit Sunni countries

and blame Satan (U.S.A.).

[Torchlight]

65. Iguess between Gibson and Swift, people are invested in celebs

regardless of the excuses we use to jusify them as something else when we ourselves do it.

[SamuelTheThird]

76. lol you really cant let that go

On a day when salinization and oil infrastructure is being attacked, I probably wouldnt post about swift..

Hell I posted about British Actuaries predicting FOUR BILLION people possibly DEAD in 2050 and only a few people responded. I just find it bizarre on a news forum that people often aren't that interested in the most important stories.

[sarisataka]

69. I remember when attacking civilian water supplies

was a war crime, genocide and those who did so were monsters...

Now it is a tactic that gets praised rather than condemned.

[dpibel]

71. I'm not seeing this praise of which you speak

Saying something is effective (statement of fact) and saying it's good, right, or moral (i.e., praise) are two quite different things.

[sarisataka]

72. I fail to see any condemnation of Iran's actions or calls for them to stop these war crimes

just that it is an excellent strategy. Not a single post has suggested Iran is committing a war crime; there is one that references the US attack on an Iranian desalinization plant was a war crime- apparently that's different.

That lack plus 128+ recs indicates approval of the Iranian attacks on the civilian infrastructure of Gulf nations which have not attacked Iran.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

70. A link might be nice

Since you want more replies than Mel Gibson.

[SamuelTheThird]

74. I said Al Jazeera Live Updates

You cant link to specific items there

[ColoringFool]

77. Please do not passive-aggressively chastise. Sometimes the bad news is....

almost paralyzing in its complexity and intractibility. As in, makes our brains hurt.

So we turn maybe to much more superficial subjects and events.

FAIR WARNING: TOMORROW IS THE WORLD CUP FINAL.

THERE WILL BE PEOPLE POSTING ABOUT IT AND NOT IRAN!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

78. 2 U.S. service members killed, 1 missing after Iran attack on Jordan, military says

Iran launched a wave of attacks on U.S. allies Jordan, Kuwait and Bahrain as the U.S. military hit Iran, in the seventh consecutive day of clashes.

Two U.S. service members were killed in action in Jordan while defending against Iranian ballistic missile and drone attacks, the U.S. military said Saturday, as the Middle East conflict intensified following the collapse of a ceasefire deal.

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost.com) 2026-07-18T18:15:02.544951585Z

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/07/18/iran-us-strikes-widen-fighting-hits-critical-infrastructure

Two U.S. service members were killed in action in Jordan while defending against Iranian ballistic missile and drone attacks, the U.S. military said Saturday, as hostilities escalated a week after the collapse of a U.S.-Iran ceasefire.

A third U.S. service member is missing in action, according to a statement from U.S. Central Command, which oversees U.S. forces in the Middle East.....

Iranian state media reported that strikes had continued to hit critical infrastructure, including bridges and a desalination plant in Jask, a southern county. Reports cited the head of the local water utility company saying that 10,000 people would be left without water.....

Kuwait’s Ministry of Electricity, Water and Renewable Energy said Saturday that there had been an attack on a power and desalination plant in the country. Coming after a similar attack on Friday, the strike raised fears about escalation and the potential impact on desert nations in the Persian Gulf, which rely heavily on desalinated water.

Kuwait’s Defense Ministry said ballistic missiles and drone attacks had been intercepted, but that oil, electricity and water facilities were affected, with fires causing “significant damage” to infrastructure.

If trump commits war crimes by attacking civilian infrastructure, Iran will respond by hitting similar infrastructure in our allies. All of these actions would affect the flow of oil even if the Strait of Hormuz is somehow opened.

[usonian]

81. Say what you want about Trump, he's consistent.

In his efforts to bury his partnership with Epstein.















WAIT! VANCE WANTS TO CHIME IN!!





REFLECT ON THIS.

[Frasier Balzov]

82. Testosterone versus kryptonite.