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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA quick note to trolling gun nuts
To those of you threatening armed rebellion if a new assault rile ban is implemented, please note: The U.S. military will turn you into a stain on the pavement within the first half hour of your "civil war." We all know it.
So just STFU and start saying something productive.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)My question is...who are they going after in their armed rebellion?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)who objects to their plans.
U235
(3 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)XRubicon
(2,212 posts)I seem to remember those words in the oath I took. Has the oath been changed?
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)U235
(3 posts)XRubicon
(2,212 posts)I think you need to think it over.
billh58
(6,635 posts)military Einstein. The local and Federal police arrest and shoot at (if they are forced to) and kill criminals every day. And don't make the mistake of believing that those in the military would support an armed insurrection by a bunch of 2nd Amendment NRA yahoos with dented F-150s and AR-15s.
And yes, I served and would have upheld my oath to oppose ALL enemies of the United States, including the home grown type.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)There has been several times in our nation's history when the US Military was used to quell riots and or protests. During the late sixties the military was often used at University Protests....
U235
(3 posts)invade private homes to confiscate weapons. Why is it the Democrats here are horrified with police activities that routinely violate the rights of citizens but will gladly give them or the military essential carte blanche to fuck with people if it involves guns? It makes no sense.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)Where has anyone on DU suggested it's ok for the military to "fuck with people" in regards to guns?
We've suggested several things, mostly having to do with registration requirements and common sense limitations to what is legal to own. I believe you're mistaken.
October
(3,363 posts)October
(3,363 posts)That is so far off the mark, and rings of total paranoia.
malaise
(268,998 posts)These folks were born last week
Hekate
(90,686 posts)Or are you historically challenged?
All the kids at Kent State were doing was peacefully protesting a war, and none of them was armed.
What do you think the US military would be ordered to do if an armed rebellion were to actually break out in the here and now?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Perhaps you mean if a right wing tea bagging fundamentalist extremists is in the ranks..He would
never shoot at one of his comrades!
doc03
(35,337 posts)of Kent State?
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Thank You!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)military and their supporters include a lot of people who don't see those kind of hate and para-military types as "American."
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)pasto76
(1,589 posts)I would absolutely put down armed insurrection by american citizens. ESPECIALLY if they were endangering any citizen who was not involved.
Maybe you missed this part, but we already fought a war about 'seceding', and the secessionists LOST. Maybe you missed the part where if you dont like the american government, you VOTE them out of office.
and as noted by another response to you, I think you MISSED THE PART where you SWORE YOUR OATH. you should re-read it again.
any one of these lunatics band together and try to take ANYTHING by armed force, if the police cant handle them, a platoon of my combat hardened veterans will make light work of it.
I dont know what "military" you served in, but we serve the country, not violent seditionist gun nuts.
obama2terms
(563 posts)to if they started harming innocent people?
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Just trying to get some clarity on where you stand.
Herlong
(649 posts)And I don't get your point.
Where did you serve and how long?
Me, Germany, Desert Storm and still going strong.
And I don't roll my eyes at anything!
You seriously contend the US military wouldn't follow orders to put down a treasonous attack by private militias on the US government? Must be nice to have your own reality.
SCantiGOP
(13,870 posts)"Posting privileges revoked"
jody
(26,624 posts)LuckyTheDog
(6,837 posts)But, nobody here ought to defending the gun nuts and their "revolution" fantasies.
The gun nuts at Tactical Response or in the militia movement have nothing at all in common with the Continental Army. They are not patriots. The U.S. revolution was organized by local civil authorities and was kept under civilian control the whole time. The militia movement has a lot more in common with the Mafia than with George Washington's crew.
jody
(26,624 posts)didn't know that.
pasto76
(1,589 posts)"well regulated" militia. Means you actually have to be trained.
registering for the selective service is NOT signing up for any 'militia'. Have you sworn in? know where to report?
selective service is just a database so they CAN draft you if they need you. Draft being the operative word.
jody
(26,624 posts)(b) The classes of the militia are
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=militia&url=/uscode/html/uscode10/usc_sec_10_00000311----000-.html
Depending on your state's own definition of militia, you could be part of its unorganized militia.
One state includes both male and female 17 to 64.
I've grown weary of telling so many DUers about militias.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)It appears to be a grotesque empowerment fantasy concerning the physical annihilation of one's enemies... but perhaps there's a nuance I missed.
mokawanis
(4,440 posts)is probably just tired of hearing gun nuts shriek about what they're gonna do if any gun control legislation is passed. Guys like James Yeager who stated he's willing to fire the first shot and start killing people.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)Our cognitive skills are fading quickly on this issue.
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0rganism
(23,954 posts)"I know that there's many others who can't wait to {turn in my own family when the time comes to shut them up}"
Really? can you name anyone? even one person who'd eagerly "turn in" their family? I doubt this description applies to "many others", as doing something like this with alacrity is peculiarly cold. Perhaps you'd like to rephrase, try again.
Puha Ekapi
(594 posts)...trolling IMO.
patrice
(47,992 posts)0rganism
(23,954 posts)+ was kind of hoping the bridgedweller could be cajoled into making further asinine remarks..
Dalai_1
(1,301 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)These people talking about violence are not going to start shooting at tanks or SWAT teams or even the police. They will start shooting at public officials.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)funding APPROPRIATE law enforcement and first responders.
Not all police are rights abusers, but for some reason we are supposed to think that they are.
MindandSoul
(1,817 posts)It seems that it is precisely the same people (Republicans) who continue to advocate for a "STRONG Military" and therefore has assured that our military forces were second to none and could turn just about any country in a dead zone (if the President in charge decided to use the maximum force), who NOW think that they could "overthrow" that "second to none" military force that THEY have build to assure that NO ONE, any place in the world, could "overthrow" it!
And NOW they think they're going to "revolt" against that military supremacy that THEY have created with. . .semi-automatic weapons and a hand guns?
DUH!
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)In other words, traitors to the United States, a.k.a., domestic enemies.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)when I call their weapons pea shooters that don't have a chance against drones or even the ATF if they are called to disarm them.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Hellfire:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire
So much for your militia bunker.